On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 10:39:46AM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
MJ Ray writes (Proposal: GR to deal with effects of a personal dispute):
There is a lamentable personal dispute between Sven Luther and some
other developers. There have been some attempts at reconciliation and
various offers
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 12:08:04PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
Sven Luther writes (Re: Proposal: GR to deal with effects of a personal
dispute):
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 10:39:46AM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
[stuff]
I applaud your proposal, [...]
OMG WTF. I'm very sorry everyone
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 02:29:34PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 08:47:26PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 07:10:14PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 11:41:28AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 09:47:11AM
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 09:47:11AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But then you are a stigmatized sub-DD, and not a DD anymore.
No, you are just a DD whose access to lists has been suspended.
A sub-DD all the same, what about all those others who participated
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 09:52:15AM +, Cord Beermann wrote:
Hallo! Du (Sven Luther) hast geschrieben:
A sub-DD all the same, what about all those others who participated in
those flamewars ? It takes two you know to create the mess we are in,
and i have done only replying to folk
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 07:10:14PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 11:41:28AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 09:47:11AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
No, you are just a DD whose access to lists has been suspended.
A sub-DD all the same, what about all
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 11:43:29AM +1000, Brian May wrote:
Sven == Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Do we really want to go into creating castes of DDs ?
No, but it's already happened. Let's move on.
Sven I prefer fixing it, now is the right moment to solve
On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 07:26:03PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...]
The main point you are missing, that if you remove the suspension, and
debian claims something about the fault of the previous events to be
shared (which nobody disputes
an
intermediate who can send on messages on your behalf.
But then you are a stigmatized sub-DD, and not a DD anymore.
Do we really want to go into creating castes of DDs ?
Friendly,
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On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 10:25:13AM +1000, Brian May wrote:
Sven == Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Sven [...] It is acceptable, for security reasons, that not every
Sven Debian Developper has access to some of these ressources,
Sven but if he request such an access, he
On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 01:13:55AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 06:20:33PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
I don't recognize the suspension as valid,
Too bad, since apparently everyone else does (or at least if they don't,
they aren't saying so)
Well, the DAMs set up
Developper has access to some of these ressources, but if he
request such an access, he should obtain it in a timely fashion (no less
than two weeks).
= END OF THE GR text =
Sven Luther
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, or any of the numerous case of
power-play over this last year.
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On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 06:40:31PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote:
Sven Luther wrote:
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 05:57:54PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote:
Hi Sven
As you are suspended for one year, your proposal is not valid according to
[1]
as your key is not in the keyring.
I don't recognize
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 10:04:19PM +0200, Bart Martens wrote:
On Sun, 2007-05-27 at 17:30 +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
By this resolution, the Debian Project resolves that :
= START OF THE GR text =
- No part of the Debian Infrastructure, is the sole province of a few
select
On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 10:42:13AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 12:51:23PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
It is amazing to what step people can resort just to silence the voice
of their own concience and don't be reminded of their shame.
There is no shame here
On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 09:15:34PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 07:36:57PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 10:42:13AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 12:51:23PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
It is amazing to what step people
the messenger, right ?
Well, i believed better of humanity, i believed better of my fellow DDs,
i guess this is all my fault in believing in goodness rather than evil.
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This will come to a vote, don't worry.
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On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 01:23:50PM +1000, Brian May wrote:
Sven == Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Sven It is easy enough, that the powers-in-debian stop to try to
Sven punish me for it, an,d that a real and fair mediation
Sven happens, and that the other party honestly
.
Welcome to Debian, and the way those in power would like it to be. And
then you wonder i am having such a problem since over a year now.
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the most shameful thing
which ever happened in debian.
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On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 03:20:31PM -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote:
[Sven Luther]
So, you are wrong, this is not about me, it is about debian, about its
fundamental unability to handle social conflicts, about some DDs who
sadly have achieved a situation of power, knowing no other way
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 09:18:00PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
On Thursday 10 May 2007, Sven Luther wrote:
The procedure calls for the number of supporters being reached in 15
days between the original call or the procedure to be dismissed. The
original expulsion procedure started by Anthony
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 10:29:24AM +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote:
* Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070511 07:47]:
Sometimes, a problem needs to magnified to the extreme, so that people
finally feel embarassed that they where unable to solve it years ago.
If you magnify the wrong part, you
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 11:41:56AM +0200, Martin Wuertele wrote:
Hi Sven!
* Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-11 10:38]:
Possibly, but can you point out the little problem here ? I guess we
have two problems :
- the original problem between frans and me.
- the 'email
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 12:18:33PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote:
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 11:10:14AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
Because I would seek one that mandates listmasters banning Sven Luther
from all lists, and DAMs expelling for ban-evasion. I realise that
there is a way for it to continue
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On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 08:00:56PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 11:50:28AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 11:41:56AM +0200, Martin Wuertele wrote:
Martin, annoyed by you turning every thread on every debian list into a
svenl-was-treated-so-bad
, so he resort to FUD and
diffamation, if not plain agression, has he has done so often during
these events.
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On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 12:33:38PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote:
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 12:32:15PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 12:18:33PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote:
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 11:10:14AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
Because I would seek one that mandates
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 12:34:47PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote:
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 12:29:56PM +0200, Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 11:03:48AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
Holger Levsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thursday 10 May 2007 10:15, Hamish Moffatt wrote
the d-i problematic in it, and you where
arrogant and haugthy, already knowing of the new expulsion request you
had apparently discussed somewhere, while i was abidding by the ban, and
stated debian would be a better place without me.
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a fault in what happened.
Shame on you, such behaviour as you exhibited is what hurts debian, not
mine.
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On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 06:15:37PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 06:32:41PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 11:45:03PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 08:21:15AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
Well, i got suspended for a year
of honour, you will not publicly apologize for those
accusation of lying you have made, which are very grave accusations
indeed. But, i have very little hope that you or anyone of the other
side in this affair will ever be able to do the honourable thing in
these actions.
Saddened,
Sven Luther
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 12:02:06PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 11:06:04AM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
Hi,
On Thursday 10 May 2007 10:15, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
The expulsion procedure doesn't call for a vote, so your 70:7 statistic
is irrelevant.
It's also
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 03:01:40AM -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote:
[Sven Luther]
So, you too, believe that what was done to me was acceptable, that
everything is justifiable
Stop it, Sven, stop it. This thread is about Sam Hocevar and GNAA. It
is not about Sven Luther. We have had lots
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 03:47:55PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The DAMs, who did not follow their own procedure [...]
I contacted Sven Luther directly with an offer to start a GR to rescind
the decision and optionally do some other stuff. I've seen no reply
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 09:33:13AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I contacted Sven Luther directly with an offer to start a GR to rescind
the decision and optionally do some other stuff. I've seen no reply.
The offer stands and now the problem resurfaces, I
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 12:08:08PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What do you believe is causing the noise in question ?
Every time any topic comes up which comes anywhere near anything related
to your experiences, you bring up your experiences
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 09:49:53AM +1000, Brian May wrote:
Sven == Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Sven This committee would then investigate the issue, try to
Sven talk with all parties involved, and get them to forget their
Sven old grudges, and come to an agreement
that *are* signs of fundamental deficiencies in the project, but I don't
think this is one of them.
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So, you don't believe in solving the problem which is causing the noise
in the first place ?
I don't believe it's possible to solve it in the way that would
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 12:05:04PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 03:47:55PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The DAMs, who did not follow their own procedure [...]
I contacted Sven Luther directly with an offer to start a GR to rescind
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 01:06:09PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 15:47 +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The DAMs, who did not follow their own procedure [...]
I contacted Sven Luther directly with an offer to start a GR to rescind
it will have lost all
right to the loyalty and devotion of its DDship.
Saddened,
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On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 11:45:03PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 08:21:15AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 02:01:52AM +0200, Rob Burgers wrote:
you know all this flamin is starting to make you guys look like
childeren..
yer profesionals act
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 11:23:21PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 08:21 +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 02:01:52AM +0200, Rob Burgers wrote:
you know all this flamin is starting to make you guys look like
childeren..
yer profesionals act like
of our previous DPL.
But again, i fear that the people bringing this always to the front, are
not really interested in the best of debian, but in mafioso like
politics, which is something really disgusting.
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but it seems some have not yet learned about it, and are still trying to
bring in mafioso-like politicks into debian.
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On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 01:16:16PM +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But, this insistence, which comes after the expulsion procedure against
me which was restarted the day after i announced my DPL candidacy, while
i was being utterly silent
.
But, if you do that in base-files, then suddenly half our packages become
non-distributable, because we lose alll right to distribute them.
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of those mistakes ?
3) What do you think in retrospect you would have done differently ?
4) What lessons did these mistakes teach you, and how will this affect
similar situations you will be facing as DPL if elected, or as normal DD if
not elected ?
Friendly,
Sven Luther
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 11:08:26AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, Sven Luther wrote:
1) Can you tell us a few of the most important mistakes you have made
during
these past two years with regard to debian
A: Alice
[ 3 ] Choice Z: None Of The Above
[ 4 ] Choice C: Carol
...
Ideally it would be possible for the letters to be vaguely mnemonic:
[ ] Choice W: Wouter Verhelst
[ ] Choice A: Aigars Mahinovs
[ ] Choice G: Gustavo Franco
[ ] Choice L: Sven Luther
[ ] Choice H: Sam
in the voting system with regard to the complexity of it :)
And for those who want to flame me in return, please do so in private, or in
the -private thread about my expulsion.
Friendly,
Sven Luther
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On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 06:45:48PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote:
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 02:10:32PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to ask Anthony and Steve what they think of how they handled
the conflict between Frans Pop and Sven Luther, and other candidates how
they would
an amendment to the GR then, which allowe for
source-only uploads ?
Or propose a new GR on the subject ?
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I hereby declare myself as candidate as DPL.
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would leave the d-i
team, and we would be left without a d-i release manager, but even then, this
only proves that the mediation failed completely.
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On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 11:39:05AM +, MJ Ray wrote:
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...] aj's inability to mediate [...] is what left us with this mess.
Not really. Messages like
http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/03/msg01054.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006
No more GRs until the etch release proposal
weeks ago :) I was helding exactly the same argumentation as you are having
now, but i was the laughing stock of everyone, including you back then.
You won't probably not read this, since i believe you blacklisted me or
something, so ...
Friendly,
Sven
, that someone else than you is in charge of
doing the day-to-day work of the secretary, maybe the DPL or TC would be
adequate on this here, or maybe some kind of assistant secretary either
permanent or delegated for the occasion.
Anthony, can you comment on this ?
Friendly,
Sven Luther
On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 12:03:33AM -0700, Jurij Smakov wrote:
On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 08:46:21AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
[...]
You are overpassing your rights as secretary, it is not for you as secretary
to call for a vote, or take any such actions, but it is only the proposer
affected, I shall immediately recuse myself and delegate the power.
I fear that your judgement to notice such conflict of interest is not so good
as you think, since this is already the second time in a few weeks you are at
the extreme limit of this boundary.
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compressor which can generate compressed archive with builtin
uncompressor binaries, is not a derivative work of the compressed files it
contains.
More arguments on this can be found in the list archive.
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, e100 maybe too, those are some very widely widespread ethernet drivers,
used among others in servers, where netbooting is a must.
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On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 08:13:36PM +, Bill Allombert wrote:
Dear Debian voters,
I humbly submit to your elevated mass the following amendment
to the latest General Resolution proposed by Sven Luther.
=
The Debian project resolves that:
1
On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 10:42:59AM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote:
On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 08:00:42AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 08:13:36PM +, Bill Allombert wrote:
Dear Debian voters,
I humbly submit to your elevated mass the following amendment
will
happend with the tg3 and acenic firmwares, and if we need a new vote or not.
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On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 01:34:11PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
On Sun, 15 Oct 2006, Sven Luther wrote:
Well, we all know it is sourceless GPLed firmware, and we chose just
to say the contrary, because it is convenient to us.
If we know[1] a work is a sourceless GPLed work, then we cannot
On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 07:05:54PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:02:10 +0200, Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Well, i blame Manoj (not wearing his secretary hat) for doing the
call for vote, after i had made the final proposal, proposal which
should have been
a possibility, but then why not say so directly ?
There are many folk who are all so happy to critic my mails and actions and
thinkings about the subject, but then, they don't care about the mess caused,
because they don't will be the ones having to handle it.
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those
firmwares, but i want to hear no critic or outrage from all those who remained
silent while this was happening, i sent enough warnings to debian-kernel and
spoke about it on irc that you have only yourself to blame for it.
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On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 07:21:49PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:03:59 +0200, Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 04:05:57PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Can you spell out for us which kernel modules, in the opinion of
the kernel team
-installer.
END OF PROPOSAL
Only change, is the addition of clause 0. which states the override. I am not
totally satisfied by this text, so if someone has a better idea, it would be
nice.
Friendly,
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On Sat, Oct 07, 2006 at 06:49:17AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
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.
On the other hand, thiesecond point is not really violated here, but it also
means that we need a GR vote in order to be able to release etch without a
proper support for loading non-free firmware .udebs from d-i, and that this
would be a 3:1 vote ?
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On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 10:52:57AM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote:
On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 10:17:56AM +0200, Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Notice how SC5 says : we support their use and provide infrastructure for
non-free packages. This clearly includes support for installing non-free
On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 08:42:41AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:17:56 +0200, Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 03:57:28PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Probably, but then choice 1. of the ballot currently under vote
should have had 3
On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 08:54:18PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 10:07:02AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
Hello,
Ok, since the proposal in its amended by Manoj form passed, we need to add
an
amendment to this proposal, accordying to Manoj, so that we don't have two
On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 11:51:11PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 11:08:13PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
This is a new proposal, which was not in the ballot, because Manoj hurried
the
election along the way, while he knew the kernel team was working on a
better
Sorry, was supposed to be a private reply.
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for this, and it is past time others of the kernel team got involved
in this again.
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(like a rewording of Josselin's proposal on top of
the consensual proposal for example).
On behalf of the Debian Kernel Team,
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[1] - http://www.debian.org/vote/2006/vote_007
[2] - http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2006/10/msg00183.html
[3] -
http://wiki.debian.org
On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 09:04:48AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Sat, 7 Oct 2006 06:49:17 +0200, Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
4. We allow inclusion of such firmware into Debian Etch, even if
their license does not normally allow modification, as long as
we
On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 05:14:21PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
On Friday 13 October 2006 16:13, Sven Luther wrote:
For all these reasons, the kernel team believes that the solution
proposed at [3], and which already reached enough seconds, and will thus
be needed to be voted on, is a better
by
the kernel team, and which was coined to reach a consensus everyone could
agree with, and found at :
http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2006/10/msg00183.html
(Still needs 2 seconds though).
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Indeed, it needs only one more second.
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On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 11:56:12PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:51:32 +0200, Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Given the way the secretary has hurried the vote, and the way
everyone is ignoring the more mature proposal at :
http://lists.debian.org/debian
On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 09:20:37PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 09:51:32PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
i now release the call for vote, and ask for a vote to be held with the
original proposal from Frederik, which has had enough seconds since August
31.
As a point
will be void anyway,
and i strongly call for everyone to vote further discussion over the other
solutions.
Friendly,
Sven Luther
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On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 01:16:39AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006, Sven Luther wrote:
On Sat, Oct 07, 2006 at 06:52:41PM -0500, Debian Project Secretary wrote:
- - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
c2d43675-9efa-4809-a4aa-af042b62786e
On Sat, Oct 07, 2006 at 09:19:58AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mmm, i think it is important to mention the fact that they are hexdumps,
since
all of them are, no ?
If all of them are, then mention it if you like, but why is it important
what form
On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 07:50:49AM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
List masters, this is evidence that Frans is not going to stop this, and as
i
asked yesterday, i now re-iterate the demand for his ban from debian-vote.
Come on, calm down. That one
on the technical level and
out of -vote.
As such, i urge you to not revert your seconding, just because you believe i
am destructive, which i am not, especially as this has nothing whatsoever to
do with the sub-thread concerning frans insidious ad-hominem attack against
me.
Friendly,
Sven Luther
On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 08:49:46AM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote:
On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 08:06:31AM +0200, Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 07:50:49AM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
List masters, this is evidence that Frans
components (.udebs) used by the debian-installer.
== END OF PROPOSAL ==
On behalf of the other proposal crafters,
Friendly,
Sven Luther
[1] -
http://wiki.debian.org/KernelFirmwareLicensing#head-bf5edfa54af87d70d2f39f434703848b55569eef
[2] -
http
On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 01:01:10AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
On Fri, 06 Oct 2006, Sven Luther wrote:
Manoj, if you don't stop this manipulation now, i am going to ask
for your recall as secretary, not sure if this is possible under the
constitution.
Manoj has not done *ANYTHING
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