Re: Changing how we handle non-free firmware

2022-08-22 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 06:43:41PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Theodore Ts'o dijo [Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 04:13:20PM -0400]: > > Whether we recommend the one with non-free firmware or not (some have > > proposed that the "free" installer would have "visual priority

Re: Changing how we handle non-free firmware

2022-08-22 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 11:32:23AM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > If a free installer is still produced and offered alongside the one > including non-free-firmware, would you feel more at ease? That sounds > like an easy compromise to make, and many people would probably > welcome it. > > Debian

Re: Question to all candidates: how is Debian doing?

2022-03-29 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 01:57:59PM -0700, Felix Lechner wrote: > Hi Lucas, > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 12:52 PM Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > > > Interesting. What would be the composition, roles, duties of that > > Strategy Council ? > > Like all committees and boards I envision, the Strategy

Question about voting when the key on the debian keyring is expired...

2022-03-22 Thread Theodore Ts'o
Apologies for this administrative question, but we have a couple of votes active at the moment, and so inquiring minds want to know. Due to an oversight, I managed to forget to update my GPG subkey's expiration date. I've since fixed it, and uploaded it to keyring.debian.org, but there's the

Re: Renaming the FTP Masters

2021-11-07 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Sat, Nov 06, 2021 at 11:32:35AM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Pierre-Elliott Bécue - 06.11.21, 11:06:58 CET: > > That being said, the name is indeed outdated, and "Debian Archive > > Team" sounds quite nice. > > Agreed. I like this name. +1, and +1 about ***not*** trying to do this

Re: Draft proposal for resolution process changes

2021-09-28 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 06:51:05PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > 4. The Project Leader has a casting vote. There is a quorum of 3Q. The >default option is "None of the above." Should this be, "unless specified elsewhere"? > > 6.3. Procedure > > 1. Resolution process. > >The

Re: Second call for votes for the GFDL position statement

2006-03-08 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 07:03:52AM -0600, Debian Project Secretary wrote: Then mail the ballot to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't worry about spacing of the columns or any quote characters () that your reply inserts. NOTE: The vote must be GPG signed (or PGP signed) with your key that is in the

Re: Proposal - Deferment of Changes from GR 2004-003

2004-05-05 Thread Theodore Ts'o
Let's try again with the correct GPG key I second Craig's proposal. - Ted On Tue, May 04, 2004 at 01:09:30AM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: I second Craig's proposal. On Thu, Apr 29, 2004 at 09:45:18AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: On Tue

Re: Proposal - Deferment of Changes from GR 2004-003

2004-05-05 Thread Theodore Ts'o
Let's try again with the correct GPG key I second Craig's proposal. - Ted On Tue, May 04, 2004 at 01:09:30AM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: I second Craig's proposal. On Thu, Apr 29, 2004 at 09:45:18AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: On Tue

Re: Proposal - Deferment of Changes from GR 2004-003

2004-05-04 Thread Theodore Ts'o
I second Craig's proposal. - Ted On Thu, Apr 29, 2004 at 09:45:18AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: On Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 08:41:35PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: The Debian Project, affirming its committment to principles of freeness for all

Re: Social Contract GR's Affect on sarge

2004-04-29 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Wed, Apr 28, 2004 at 10:46:32PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: But it *is* released. Your claim was that all the fonts would have to disappear. Actually, no, you haven't substantiated that. Well, there is certainly a double-standard going on about fonts. People have argued that since

Re: Social Contract GR's Affect on sarge

2004-04-29 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Thu, Apr 29, 2004 at 12:11:03AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: But for a font, the ability to tweak the bitmap might well be, because there is nothing more to a rendered font than the bitmap; for a binary program, there is a logical structure to the instructions which it is

Re: Social Contract GR's Affect on sarge

2004-04-29 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Wed, Apr 28, 2004 at 09:08:00AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: Theodore Ts'o [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Personally, I'm still trying to decide myself what is going to happen with Debian. Is it a bunch of fanatics who are more interested in philosophy than technology, in which case

Re: Social Contract GR's Affect on sarge

2004-04-29 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Wed, Apr 28, 2004 at 10:00:17PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: The issue is actually more complex because of the non-free section of the distribution. The pragmatists will simply use that one. People like me who suffer from a mild form of Free Software Extremism are those who are losing

Re: Social Contract GR's Affect on sarge

2004-04-29 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Wed, Apr 28, 2004 at 10:46:32PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: But it *is* released. Your claim was that all the fonts would have to disappear. Actually, no, you haven't substantiated that. Well, there is certainly a double-standard going on about fonts. People have argued that since

Re: Social Contract GR's Affect on sarge

2004-04-29 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Thu, Apr 29, 2004 at 12:11:03AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: But for a font, the ability to tweak the bitmap might well be, because there is nothing more to a rendered font than the bitmap; for a binary program, there is a logical structure to the instructions which it is

Re: Social Contract GR's Affect on sarge

2004-04-28 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Wed, Apr 28, 2004 at 09:08:00AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: Theodore Ts'o [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Personally, I'm still trying to decide myself what is going to happen with Debian. Is it a bunch of fanatics who are more interested in philosophy than technology, in which case

Re: Social Contract GR's Affect on sarge

2004-04-28 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Wed, Apr 28, 2004 at 12:39:55PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 02:56:09PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: At the rate we're currently going, I don't really expect to be able to achieve this this year. In light of the new Social Contract, however, I don't believe there

Re: Social Contract GR's Affect on sarge

2004-04-27 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Wed, Apr 28, 2004 at 12:39:55PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 02:56:09PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: At the rate we're currently going, I don't really expect to be able to achieve this this year. In light of the new Social Contract, however, I don't believe there

Re: Social Contract GR's Affect on sarge

2004-04-26 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 02:56:09PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: As this is no longer limited to software, and as this decision was made by developers after and during discussion of how we should consider non-software content such as documentation and firmware, I don't believe I can justify the

Re: Social Contract GR's Affect on sarge

2004-04-26 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 12:54:14PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: * Theodore Ts'o ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: You forgot one other thing. We'll also have to strip **ALL** **FONTS** from Debian, since fonts come in binary form, and we don't have anything approaching the preferred form

Re: Social Contract GR's Affect on sarge

2004-04-26 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 02:56:09PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: As this is no longer limited to software, and as this decision was made by developers after and during discussion of how we should consider non-software content such as documentation and firmware, I don't believe I can justify the

Re: Social Contract GR's Affect on sarge

2004-04-26 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 12:54:14PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: * Theodore Ts'o ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: You forgot one other thing. We'll also have to strip **ALL** **FONTS** from Debian, since fonts come in binary form, and we don't have anything approaching the preferred form

Re: First Call for votes: General resolution for the handling of the non-free section

2004-03-11 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 07:24:49PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: it is not up to you to tell me HOW i may say something. i'll use whatever words i feel are necessary to get my point across. if you don't like some of the words that i choose to employ, then tough luck - get a life. Craig, It

Re: First Call for votes: General resolution for the handling of the non-free section

2004-03-11 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 07:24:49PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: it is not up to you to tell me HOW i may say something. i'll use whatever words i feel are necessary to get my point across. if you don't like some of the words that i choose to employ, then tough luck - get a life. Craig, It

Re: General Resolution: Handling of the non-free section

2004-02-25 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 01:42:23PM -0600, Debian Project Secretary wrote: General Resolution: Status of the non-free section Text: The actual text of the GR is: The next release of Debian will not be accompanied by a

Re: summary of software licenses in non-free

2004-01-10 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Sat, Jan 10, 2004 at 12:55:07PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: [For the W3C docs, for example, there is no reason except convenience why they would _have_ to be served from .debian.org - could we get them to host the .debs of their own documentation? ] The problem with third party

Re: summary of software licenses in non-free

2004-01-10 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Sat, Jan 10, 2004 at 12:55:07PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: [For the W3C docs, for example, there is no reason except convenience why they would _have_ to be served from .debian.org - could we get them to host the .debs of their own documentation? ] The problem with third party