OT: unicorn, was: one of the many reasons why removing non-free is a dumb idea

2004-01-08 Thread MJ Ray
I think most of the previous email is replied to elsewhere (= in another subthread for the hard of thinking), or I don't have answers (such as plan for contrib), or I agree. On 2004-01-07 09:10:26 + Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, sure. The only problem with that [...] Yep,

Re: OT: unicorn, was: one of the many reasons why removing non-free is a dumb idea

2004-01-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 01:11:44PM +, MJ Ray wrote: I think most of the previous email is replied to elsewhere (= in another subthread for the hard of thinking), or I don't have answers (such as plan for contrib), or I agree. Ok. On 2004-01-07 09:10:26 + Sven Luther [EMAIL

Re: OT: unicorn, was: one of the many reasons why removing non-free is a dumb idea

2004-01-08 Thread MJ Ray
On 2004-01-08 13:47:45 + Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe that we should look over the non-free stuff, and for each package there decide what has to happen, if it should be removed, if it can stay, if it has made progress, etc. Feel free to comment/adopt my suggested plan. I

Re: OT: unicorn, was: one of the many reasons why removing non-free is a dumb idea

2004-01-08 Thread Raul Miller
On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 02:37:44PM +, MJ Ray wrote: I thought I answered, but all together now: absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Word play. I don't care about this, i care about the intentions behind the word, and what will actually happen. Not just word play, as

Re: OT: unicorn, was: one of the many reasons why removing non-free is a dumb idea

2004-01-08 Thread MJ Ray
On 2004-01-08 15:23:30 + Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, absence of evidence really is evidence of absence. It's just not conclusive evidence. I think that may be an irrational view. Or maybe there really is a little unicorn in your sock drawer. Not for long. The bunny would

Re: OT: unicorn, was: one of the many reasons why removing non-free is a dumb idea

2004-01-08 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 10:23:30AM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: Actually, absence of evidence really is evidence of absence. Uh, no it's not. Eg, I don't have any bug reports for debootstrap 0.3; that's evidence that there aren't any bugs in it. The lack of evidence is due to the fact that (almost)

Re: OT: unicorn, was: one of the many reasons why removing non-free is a dumb idea

2004-01-08 Thread Raul Miller
On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 10:23:30AM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: Actually, absence of evidence really is evidence of absence. On Fri, Jan 09, 2004 at 02:08:23AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: Uh, no it's not. Eg, I don't have any bug reports for debootstrap 0.3; that's evidence that there aren't

Re: OT: unicorn, was: one of the many reasons why removing non-free is a dumb idea

2004-01-08 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 12:44:27PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: On Fri, Jan 09, 2004 at 02:08:23AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: Uh, no it's not. Eg, I don't have any bug reports for debootstrap 0.3; that's evidence that there aren't any bugs in it. It's totally inadequate evidence, but

OT: unicorn, was: one of the many reasons why removing non-free is a dumb idea

2004-01-08 Thread MJ Ray
I think most of the previous email is replied to elsewhere (= in another subthread for the hard of thinking), or I don't have answers (such as plan for contrib), or I agree. On 2004-01-07 09:10:26 + Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, sure. The only problem with that [...]

Re: OT: unicorn, was: one of the many reasons why removing non-free is a dumb idea

2004-01-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 01:11:44PM +, MJ Ray wrote: I think most of the previous email is replied to elsewhere (= in another subthread for the hard of thinking), or I don't have answers (such as plan for contrib), or I agree. Ok. On 2004-01-07 09:10:26 + Sven Luther [EMAIL

Re: OT: unicorn, was: one of the many reasons why removing non-free is a dumb idea

2004-01-08 Thread MJ Ray
On 2004-01-08 13:47:45 + Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe that we should look over the non-free stuff, and for each package there decide what has to happen, if it should be removed, if it can stay, if it has made progress, etc. Feel free to comment/adopt my suggested

Re: OT: unicorn, was: one of the many reasons why removing non-free is a dumb idea

2004-01-08 Thread Raul Miller
On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 02:37:44PM +, MJ Ray wrote: I thought I answered, but all together now: absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Word play. I don't care about this, i care about the intentions behind the word, and what will actually happen. Not just word play, as

Re: OT: unicorn, was: one of the many reasons why removing non-free is a dumb idea

2004-01-08 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 10:23:30AM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: Actually, absence of evidence really is evidence of absence. Uh, no it's not. Eg, I don't have any bug reports for debootstrap 0.3; that's evidence that there aren't any bugs in it. The lack of evidence is due to the fact that (almost)

Re: OT: unicorn, was: one of the many reasons why removing non-free is a dumb idea

2004-01-08 Thread MJ Ray
On 2004-01-08 15:23:30 + Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, absence of evidence really is evidence of absence. It's just not conclusive evidence. I think that may be an irrational view. Or maybe there really is a little unicorn in your sock drawer. Not for long. The bunny

Re: OT: unicorn, was: one of the many reasons why removing non-free is a dumb idea

2004-01-08 Thread Raul Miller
On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 10:23:30AM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: Actually, absence of evidence really is evidence of absence. On Fri, Jan 09, 2004 at 02:08:23AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: Uh, no it's not. Eg, I don't have any bug reports for debootstrap 0.3; that's evidence that there aren't

Re: OT: unicorn, was: one of the many reasons why removing non-free is a dumb idea

2004-01-08 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 12:44:27PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: On Fri, Jan 09, 2004 at 02:08:23AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: Uh, no it's not. Eg, I don't have any bug reports for debootstrap 0.3; that's evidence that there aren't any bugs in it. It's totally inadequate evidence, but