Aigars Mahinovs wrote:
Flamewars are good if the discussions are based on facts. Lately most
flamewars in Debian were on opinions, not on facts.
I think it would be useful if we only used the term flamewar for
threads that contain actual flaming. The current alternate usage of
flamewar for any
Hi,
On Sunday 18 March 2007 02:16, Ben Hutchings wrote:
We need to be careful to make that tone explicit when writing
email, even at the risk of being unsubtle. This is particularly
important when writing in one's second language (something which I am
very glad I do not have to attempt).
I
[I hope that continuing vote discussions after voting begins is fine]
Margarita Manterola wrote:
On 3/15/07, Sam Hocevar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My main approach to make it fun again to work on Debian is to
reduce the frustration. You cannot have fun doing something if your
Le vendredi 16 mars 2007 à 10:27 +, MJ Ray a écrit :
It's sort of disappointing how much less trouble I've had since adding such
disclaimers to the end of emails containing jokes. There seem to be far too
many starched attitudes around.
Ah, thanks. I was looking for a translation of the
On Thu, 2007-03-15 at 15:59 +0100, Julien BLACHE wrote:
Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Flamewars are actually fun, when done properly.
Having fun in a flamewar is not the kind of fun we need to seek.
Because there's no reward for the project, only some self-satisfaction of
a
Le jeudi 15 mars 2007 à 15:19 -0700, Steve Langasek a écrit :
Many of us probably missed the humor because of the missing disclaimer
explaining ha-ha, this was only a joke, I don't really think we should have
flamewars despite the fact that I'm frequently a rude jerk to others in the
project.
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Many of us probably missed the humor because of the missing disclaimer
explaining ha-ha, this was only a joke, I don't really think we should have
flamewars despite the fact that I'm frequently a rude jerk to others in the
project.
One person's rude
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007, Margarita Manterola wrote:
This is for Gustavo and Sam, who have both stated in their campaigns
that they want to bring back the fun to Debian. Now, I'm all for
Debian being more fun, but I wonder:
How do you plan to bring back the fun? What are the specific steps
On 3/15/07, Sam Hocevar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My main approach to make it fun again to work on Debian is to
reduce the frustration. You cannot have fun doing something if your
contributions are ignored, if you cannot access the resources you need
to do the work, if your administrative
Margarita Manterola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1) flamewars: the constant bickering on mailing list is depressing, it
takes away a lot of time, and it gives the whole project a bad
reputation.
I don't know what's worse, the bickering itself or the bickering about
the bickering.
Flamewars are
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Julien BLACHE wrote:
Margarita Manterola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1) flamewars: the constant bickering on mailing list is depressing, it
takes away a lot of time, and it gives the whole project a bad
reputation.
I don't know what's worse, the bickering itself or
On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 03:50:32PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Julien BLACHE wrote:
Margarita Manterola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1) flamewars: the constant bickering on mailing list is depressing, it
takes away a lot of time, and it gives the whole project a bad
On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 11:15:03AM -0300, Margarita Manterola wrote:
On 3/15/07, Sam Hocevar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My main approach to make it fun again to work on Debian is to
reduce the frustration. You cannot have fun doing something if your
contributions are ignored, if you cannot
Julien BLACHE wrote:
I don't know what's worse, the bickering itself or the bickering about
the bickering.
The bickering about the bickering about the bickering.
Debian having a reputation for its flamewars seems to be a pretty clear
indication of a problem. If it was In Debian people discuss
On Thu, Mar 15, 2007, Julien BLACHE wrote:
Flamewars are actually fun, when done properly.
Oh right; the fun part must be an omission on
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flaming -- unless
you meant the artistic type of flamewars. ;)
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Lars Wirzenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FWIW you're not _forced_ either to read them, nor to participate.
I've tried not participating or reading lists with large flame contents:
for significant parts of 2006 I did not read -devel and -project (for
instance). The result was that you're cut
On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 07:37:35PM +0100, Julien BLACHE [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Lars Wirzenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FWIW you're not _forced_ either to read them, nor to participate.
I've tried not participating or reading lists with large flame contents:
for significant parts of
Le jeudi 15 mars 2007 à 19:43 +0200, Lars Wirzenius a écrit :
I've tried not participating or reading lists with large flame contents:
for significant parts of 2006 I did not read -devel and -project (for
instance). The result was that you're cut off from any sense of what the
project is doing
On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 03:57:13PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
Flamewars are actually fun, when done properly.
Mailing list are a tool. We want constructive and rewarding discussions.
Humour (of lack of) is a quality. Having some is very rewarding in the
long term, as it allows us to
On 3/13/07, Margarita Manterola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi!
This is for Gustavo and Sam, who have both stated in their campaigns
that they want to bring back the fun to Debian. Now, I'm all for
Debian being more fun, but I wonder:
How do you plan to bring back the fun? What are the specific
Hi!
This is for Gustavo and Sam, who have both stated in their campaigns
that they want to bring back the fun to Debian. Now, I'm all for
Debian being more fun, but I wonder:
How do you plan to bring back the fun? What are the specific steps
required to achieve such a goal?
--
Besos,
Marga
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