Re: Call for votes for the debian project leader election 2002

2002-03-27 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Gustavo Noronha Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you want to select one person, and leave the rest equally, you could put a 1 for the person (or thing) you like, and mark the rest as 2. [...] unacceptable blank. Start with 1, don't skip any numbers, don't repeat. To vote no,

Re: Some questions for the candidates...

2002-03-27 Thread Jules Bean
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 03:07:20PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: You can't have it both ways! The standard Debian answer to a good idea is 'show us the code'. Well, in this case, the code was written and demonstrated. It would obviously not be difficult to integrate it with the

Re: [Fwd: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender]

2002-03-27 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously tony mancill wrote: I'm not sure if there's any point in the casual security. I seem to recall all of the votes from last year's election being published in some public place after the voting was complete. Which was a mistake, DPL votes are not public (see the constitution).

Re: Call for votes for the debian project leader election 2002

2002-03-27 Thread Norbert Veber
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 12:06:10AM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: I just want to remind everyone about how this voting works under the hood. You are better off not leaving options blank, for the simple reason that leaving it blank means your vote does not count against that option (the things you

ballot@vote.debian.org is active again

2002-03-27 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, The script behind [EMAIL PROTECTED] had been disconnected since sometime after the last leader election vote, and I forgot to turn it on. A new script, compatible with the new vote mechanism, has been put into place, and tested, so folks can get ballots for active votes from

Re: Transcript of the Debate

2002-03-27 Thread Ben Collins
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 09:41:09PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 01:17:43PM -0500, Bob Hilliard wrote: When and where will the transcript of the DPL candidates' debate be posted? At http://vote.debian.org/2002/leadership_debate/, when someone forwards the logs

Re: Call for votes for the debian project leader election 2002

2002-03-27 Thread Chris Danis
On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Norbert == Norbert Veber wrote: Norbert Thats very strange. So if I only consider one candidate vorthy Norbert of a vote, and fill in just one square, my vote means nothing? Norbert That dosent seem right :) It makes sense if you understand how Concorde voting

Re: Call for votes for the debian project leader election 2002

2002-03-27 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Norbert Veber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thats very strange. So if I only consider one candidate vorthy of a vote, and fill in just one square, my vote means nothing? That dosent seem right :) The code Manoj posted seems to match your intuition rather than Ben's description: # On , expect

Re: Call for votes for the debian project leader election 2002

2002-03-27 Thread Joe Drew
On Wed, 2002-03-27 at 00:06, Ben Collins wrote: I just want to remind everyone about how this voting works under the hood. You are better off not leaving options blank, for the simple reason that leaving it blank means your vote does not count against that option (the things you vote for are

Re: Call for votes for the debian project leader election 2002

2002-03-27 Thread Chris Lawrence
On Mar 27, Bdale Garbee wrote: The discussion after last year's vote on this topic seemed to lead to a concensus that we should treat any unmarked choices as being of equal preference, at a preference level below any marked entries. 1. The method is called Condorcet, even though we all

Re: Call for votes for the debian project leader election 2002

2002-03-27 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Norbert == Norbert Veber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Norbert Thats very strange. So if I only consider one candidate Norbert vorthy of a vote, and fill in just one square, my vote means Norbert nothing? That dosent seem right :) I would not say it meant nothing. It means that you

How to Vote (was: Call for votes for the debian project leader election 2002)

2002-03-27 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 12:06:10AM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: I just want to remind everyone about how this voting works under the hood. You are better off not leaving options blank, for the simple reason that leaving it blank means your vote does not count against that option (the things you

Re: [Fwd: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender]

2002-03-27 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 12:23:52AM -0500, Jeff Licquia wrote: [vote deleted] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQA8oVIyYApVP/ZmyR0RAv5pAJ4s14oMt9Hlqa/bFP0mZ5Qo/tgaUACfeSCR 3qSDTlQpg9rhhJx08Q9UuR4= =7aHi

Re: [Fwd: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender]

2002-03-27 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 02:00:44AM -0500, Jeff Licquia wrote: I'm more interested in casual security (not broadcasting my vote to the world) than cryptographic security. People interested enough to take the time to crack my vote are either obsessive or need to get out more. Neither of which

Re: Some questions for the candidates...

2002-03-27 Thread Jules Bean
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 03:07:20PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: You can't have it both ways! The standard Debian answer to a good idea is 'show us the code'. Well, in this case, the code was written and demonstrated. It would obviously not be difficult to integrate it with the

Re: [Fwd: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender]

2002-03-27 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously tony mancill wrote: I'm not sure if there's any point in the casual security. I seem to recall all of the votes from last year's election being published in some public place after the voting was complete. Which was a mistake, DPL votes are not public (see the constitution).

Re: [Fwd: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender]

2002-03-27 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Wednesday, March 27, 2002, at 01:41 AM, Anthony Towns wrote: BTW, if there are only a couple of unknowns about the original message (like, say, the order of the numbers 1, 2, 3 and 4), it's pretty straightforward to recover it from just a cryptographic signature. Yep. Brute force is quite

Re: Call for votes for the debian project leader election 2002

2002-03-27 Thread Ben Collins
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 02:56:47AM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 00:06:10 -0500 Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One side affect of this is that if you only put a number next to one person's name, and leave the rest blank, your vote pretty much means

Re: Transcript of the Debate

2002-03-27 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 01:17:43PM -0500, Bob Hilliard wrote: When and where will the transcript of the DPL candidates' debate be posted? At http://vote.debian.org/2002/leadership_debate/, when someone forwards the logs to debian-www... -- 2. That which causes joy or happiness.

Re: Transcript of the Debate

2002-03-27 Thread Martin Schulze
Bob Hilliard wrote: When and where will the transcript of the DPL candidates' debate be posted? http://beta.hardware.no/~tfheen/debian-debate.{html,txt} Regards, Joey -- The only stupid question is the unasked one. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: Transcript of the Debate

2002-03-27 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 01:17:43PM -0500, Bob Hilliard [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: When and where will the transcript of the DPL candidates' debate be posted? It's been posted here for several days: http://dopey.debian.net/debian-debate_20020324.html Daniel --

Re: Transcript of the Debate

2002-03-27 Thread Mark Janssen
On Wed, 2002-03-27 at 19:17, Bob Hilliard wrote: When and where will the transcript of the DPL candidates' debate be posted? It's allready been posted, since I read it yesterday (Maybe the day before even). I don't know the URL, but it was posted on www.debianplanet.org -- Mark Janssen

Re: Transcript of the Debate

2002-03-27 Thread Mark Janssen
On Wed, 2002-03-27 at 19:17, Bob Hilliard wrote: When and where will the transcript of the DPL candidates' debate be posted? It's allready been posted, since I read it yesterday (Maybe the day before even). I don't know the URL, but it was posted on www.debianplanet.org -- Mark Janssen

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ballot@vote.debian.org is active again

2002-03-27 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, The script behind [EMAIL PROTECTED] had been disconnected since sometime after the last leader election vote, and I forgot to turn it on. A new script, compatible with the new vote mechanism, has been put into place, and tested, so folks can get ballots for active votes from

Re: Transcript of the Debate

2002-03-27 Thread Ben Collins
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 09:41:09PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 01:17:43PM -0500, Bob Hilliard wrote: When and where will the transcript of the DPL candidates' debate be posted? At http://vote.debian.org/2002/leadership_debate/, when someone forwards the logs to

Re: Call for votes for the debian project leader election 2002

2002-03-27 Thread Ben Collins
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 05:07:31PM -0500, Norbert Veber wrote: On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 12:06:10AM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: I just want to remind everyone about how this voting works under the hood. You are better off not leaving options blank, for the simple reason that leaving it blank

Re: Call for votes for the debian project leader election 2002

2002-03-27 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Norbert Veber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thats very strange. So if I only consider one candidate vorthy of a vote, and fill in just one square, my vote means nothing? That dosent seem right :) If that's what you think, then you rank them thus: 1) Your candidate 2) None of the above 3 and 4)

Re: Call for votes for the debian project leader election 2002

2002-03-27 Thread Chris Danis
On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Norbert == Norbert Veber wrote: Norbert Thats very strange. So if I only consider one candidate vorthy Norbert of a vote, and fill in just one square, my vote means nothing? Norbert That dosent seem right :) It makes sense if you understand how Concorde voting

Re: Call for votes for the debian project leader election 2002

2002-03-27 Thread Bdale Garbee
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Norbert Veber) writes: One side affect of this is that if you only put a number next to one person's name, and leave the rest blank, your vote pretty much means nothing. Thats very strange. So if I only consider one candidate vorthy of a vote, and fill in just one

Re: Call for votes for the debian project leader election 2002

2002-03-27 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Norbert Veber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thats very strange. So if I only consider one candidate vorthy of a vote, and fill in just one square, my vote means nothing? That dosent seem right :) The code Manoj posted seems to match your intuition rather than Ben's description: # On , expect

Re: Call for votes for the debian project leader election 2002

2002-03-27 Thread Joe Drew
On Wed, 2002-03-27 at 00:06, Ben Collins wrote: I just want to remind everyone about how this voting works under the hood. You are better off not leaving options blank, for the simple reason that leaving it blank means your vote does not count against that option (the things you vote for are