Voting period for DPL - started or not?

2004-03-20 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
If you follow the dates, the vote has started. I've requested a ballot and sent it [twice, since the first one didn't provoke any response]. Has the DPL vote started? Is it just a case of getting the non-free thing out of the way by tomorrow night so that Manoj can restart devotee? Andy --

Re: Voting period for DPL - started or not?

2004-03-20 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Sat, 2004-03-20 at 08:49, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: If you follow the dates, the vote has started. I've requested a ballot and sent it [twice, since the first one didn't provoke any response]. Has the DPL vote started? Is it just a case of getting the non-free thing out of the way by

Re: Questions to candidates

2004-03-20 Thread Daniel Stone
On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 08:16:00AM +0100, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Daniel Stone wrote: Coordinating a project the size of Debian requires a very different set of skills than maintaining a large package, such as glibc.[1] ...or XFree86, the reader is

Re: Questions to candidates

2004-03-20 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Daniel Stone wrote: The XSF is run as a Branden-centric 'team', whereby if someone doesn't agree with you, they're wrong. Personally I don't agree with you. An eg. that doesn't touch either you or me directly:

Re: Questions to candidates

2004-03-20 Thread Daniel Stone
On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 01:39:51PM +0100, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Daniel Stone wrote: Yes, but had I disagreed with Branden, my opinion would've been noted and very quickly discarded. I think we are going personal here and i don't like to (since i am sure it

Re: Questions to candidates

2004-03-20 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
On Sun, 21 Mar 2004, Daniel Stone wrote: YOU'RE AN IDIOT! CHUTUP MORMON (That, by the way, was sarcasm.) lol :-) I would never take that seriously.. not from you at least :P I don't have any real position on the flames, just on the fact that Branden is incapable of working with quite a few

Debian Project Leader Election

2004-03-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi folks, As you may have noticed, my at job to start the vote and send the CFV has failed. I am in transit, sending this from the airport, so I do not have access to my gpg key to send in the official CFV; however, I have enabled the voting engine, so people with ballots from [EMAIL

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2004-03-20 Thread Icebreaker F. Chicle
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Re: Questions to candidates

2004-03-20 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 11:49:55AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: they're wrong. Where if someone slips up and gets a little overenthusiastic, Err, you think that uploading a major new version of a major package is a slip up? It seems a bit more deliberate than that to me. Hamish -- Hamish

Re: Questions to candidates

2004-03-20 Thread Daniel Stone
On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 12:58:38PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 11:49:55AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: they're wrong. Where if someone slips up and gets a little overenthusiastic, Err, you think that uploading a major new version of a major package is a slip up?

Re: Questions to candidates

2004-03-20 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Fabio Massimo Di Nitto [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-20 07:17]: On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Martin Michlmayr wrote: Especially if that leader's most valuable trait is coordination: the initiatives are executed by others, while the leader's role is simply in ^^

Call for votes for the Debian Project Leader Election 2004

2004-03-20 Thread Debian Project Secretary
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi folks, Due to a combination of a business trip, my hotel's dialup failing to work, and my at job not firing off at the right time, this call for votes is over a day late. The voting mechanism has been accepting, but not yet processing, votes

Re: Questions to candidates

2004-03-20 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I believe coordination is an active role. The paragraph I quoted above is from Branden who seems to define coordination in a way that initiatives are executed by others. Perhaps he can clarify if this is what he meant to say. I think it is

Re: Branden's Platform in German, Spanish, Italian, and (some) French

2004-03-20 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As I balance, I think we should make it clearer to bug submitters that they can re-open bugs and that feedback is encouraged. What about where a bug is closed by the maintainer on the mere hope that it has been fixed by upstream? I have been told

Final call for votes for future handling of the non free section GR

2004-03-20 Thread Debian Project Secretary
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, In a little under 24 hours from now, at the time of writing, the polls shall close for the GR resolving future handling of the non-free section. At this point, with 433 unique voters, we are still 21 voters shy of 50% participation.

Re: Final call for votes for future handling of the non free section GR

2004-03-20 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 10:34:49PM -0600, Debian Project Secretary wrote: In a little under 24 hours from now, at the time of writing, the polls shall close for the GR resolving future handling of the non-free section. At this point, with 433 unique voters, we are still 21 voters

Re: Branden's Platform in German, Spanish, Italian, and (some) French

2004-03-20 Thread Lukas Geyer
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://people.debian.org/~branden/dpl/campaign/2004/platform.xhtml.de Well, at least the German translation could need some proofreading. Just one example: Debian begeht Überfälle, offenbar überall; ich will diesen Prozess beschleunigen und Debian

Re: Q: guidelines for post-campaign period?

2004-03-20 Thread secretary
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 20:29:22 -0500, Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Mr. Secretary, The Debian Constitution[1] describes the DPL election process as follows: 5.2. Appointment 1. The Project Leader is elected by the Developers. 2. The election begins nine weeks before the

Re: Final call for votes for future handling of the non free section GR

2004-03-20 Thread Herbert Xu
Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 10:34:49PM -0600, Debian Project Secretary wrote: In a little under 24 hours from now, at the time of writing, the polls shall close for the GR resolving future handling of the non-free section. At this point, with 433

Re: Final call for votes for future handling of the non free section GR

2004-03-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 20:58:52 -0800, Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Is there any way to verify that one's vote has been received? I sent in a vote some time ago, but can't recall if I received a confirmation email or not. The list of voters for both votes is publicly

Re: Branden's Platform in German, Spanish, Italian, and (some) French

2004-03-20 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 08:28:42PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As I balance, I think we should make it clearer to bug submitters that they can re-open bugs and that feedback is encouraged. What about where a bug is closed by the

Re: Questions to candidates

2004-03-20 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Martin Michlmayr wrote: Especially if that leader's most valuable trait is coordination: the initiatives are executed by others, while the leader's role is simply in ^^ putting the right people together. Part of coordination is to

Re: Questions to candidates

2004-03-20 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Daniel Stone wrote: Coordinating a project the size of Debian requires a very different set of skills than maintaining a large package, such as glibc.[1] ...or XFree86, the reader is surely invited to infer. The XSF is run as a Branden-centric 'team', whereby

Voting period for DPL - started or not?

2004-03-20 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
If you follow the dates, the vote has started. I've requested a ballot and sent it [twice, since the first one didn't provoke any response]. Has the DPL vote started? Is it just a case of getting the non-free thing out of the way by tomorrow night so that Manoj can restart devotee? Andy

Re: Voting period for DPL - started or not?

2004-03-20 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Sat, 2004-03-20 at 08:49, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: If you follow the dates, the vote has started. I've requested a ballot and sent it [twice, since the first one didn't provoke any response]. Has the DPL vote started? Is it just a case of getting the non-free thing out of the way by

Re: Questions to candidates

2004-03-20 Thread Daniel Stone
On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 08:16:00AM +0100, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Daniel Stone wrote: Coordinating a project the size of Debian requires a very different set of skills than maintaining a large package, such as glibc.[1] ...or XFree86, the reader is

Re: Questions to candidates

2004-03-20 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Daniel Stone wrote: The XSF is run as a Branden-centric 'team', whereby if someone doesn't agree with you, they're wrong. Personally I don't agree with you. An eg. that doesn't touch either you or me directly:

Re: Questions to candidates

2004-03-20 Thread Daniel Stone
On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 01:39:51PM +0100, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Daniel Stone wrote: Yes, but had I disagreed with Branden, my opinion would've been noted and very quickly discarded. I think we are going personal here and i don't like to (since i am sure it

Re: Questions to candidates

2004-03-20 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
On Sun, 21 Mar 2004, Daniel Stone wrote: YOU'RE AN IDIOT! CHUTUP MORMON (That, by the way, was sarcasm.) lol :-) I would never take that seriously.. not from you at least :P I don't have any real position on the flames, just on the fact that Branden is incapable of working with quite a few

Debian Project Leader Election

2004-03-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi folks, As you may have noticed, my at job to start the vote and send the CFV has failed. I am in transit, sending this from the airport, so I do not have access to my gpg key to send in the official CFV; however, I have enabled the voting engine, so people with ballots from [EMAIL

Biggest meedication site on net, Debian! Exceptional offers for you!

2004-03-20 Thread Milieu D. Sweatshops
Evening, landlord :)Comedy may be big business but it isn't pretty. Debian, looking for a place to shop for medicatitotn?Quality ViagEdra and CialWkis. Fast weight (hyracodontid rakehells) loss and anti-depressant medicatihAon!Best offers on ValiuTZm and Xanatux. Super deals, 80 pecernt off!We

Debian, Best deals on Cial9Dis, 80 prencet off!

2004-03-20 Thread Icebreaker F. Chicle
I'm so sorry! :)I dream of a place and a time where America will once again be seen as the last best hope of earth. Debian, searching for a source to purchase medicatiZgon?Best ViagNrca and CialTAis. Fast weight (minaway drabbletail) loss and anti-depressant medicatiBotn!Best cost on ValiuZjm

Re: Questions to candidates

2004-03-20 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 11:49:55AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: they're wrong. Where if someone slips up and gets a little overenthusiastic, Err, you think that uploading a major new version of a major package is a slip up? It seems a bit more deliberate than that to me. Hamish -- Hamish

Re: Questions to candidates

2004-03-20 Thread Daniel Stone
On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 12:58:38PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 11:49:55AM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: they're wrong. Where if someone slips up and gets a little overenthusiastic, Err, you think that uploading a major new version of a major package is a slip up?

Re: Branden's Platform in German, Spanish, Italian, and (some) French

2004-03-20 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-19 20:15]: In some completely different contexts, some people swear by the only person who can close a bug is the person who opened it in the first place. For example, http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog29.html (and search for that

Re: Questions to candidates

2004-03-20 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Fabio Massimo Di Nitto [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-20 07:17]: On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Martin Michlmayr wrote: Especially if that leader's most valuable trait is coordination: the initiatives are executed by others, while the leader's role is simply in ^^

Call for votes for the Debian Project Leader Election 2004

2004-03-20 Thread Debian Project Secretary
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi folks, Due to a combination of a business trip, my hotel's dialup failing to work, and my at job not firing off at the right time, this call for votes is over a day late. The voting mechanism has been accepting, but not yet processing, votes

Final call for votes for future handling of the non free section GR

2004-03-20 Thread Debian Project Secretary
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, In a little under 24 hours from now, at the time of writing, the polls shall close for the GR resolving future handling of the non-free section. At this point, with 433 unique voters, we are still 21 voters shy of 50% participation.