Re: Branden's Platform in German, Spanish, Italian, and (some) French

2004-03-22 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Nathanael Nerode [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Of course, such bugs would probably be promptly marked 'wontfix' or 'helpwanted', so it wouldn't really do any good. :-/ Yes, it does do good. Among other things, other people might see them and fix them! It does happen. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Branden's Platform in German, Spanish, Italian, and (some) French

2004-03-22 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 02:08:36AM -0500, Lukas Geyer wrote: Well, at least the German translation could need some proofreading. [...] I have not checked back with the original, but I don't believe this translation is faithful to it... My thanks to you and Peter Palfrader for offering

Re: Branden's Platform in German, Spanish, Italian, and (some) French

2004-03-22 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Nathanael Nerode [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Of course, such bugs would probably be promptly marked 'wontfix' or 'helpwanted', so it wouldn't really do any good. :-/ Yes, it does do good. Among other things, other people might see them and fix them! It does happen.

Re: Branden's Platform in German, Spanish, Italian, and (some) French

2004-03-22 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 02:08:36AM -0500, Lukas Geyer wrote: Well, at least the German translation could need some proofreading. [...] I have not checked back with the original, but I don't believe this translation is faithful to it... My thanks to you and Peter Palfrader for offering

Re: Branden's Platform in German, Spanish, Italian, and (some) French

2004-03-21 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have been told more than once by Debian developers (Christian Marillat is a prime offender) that this bug is now fixed in upstream, and had the bug closed then, even though no Debian package has been uploaded. That is a bug in the maintainer.

Re: Branden's Platform in German, Spanish, Italian, and (some) French

2004-03-21 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've even complained about this more than once on debian-devel, and been told to just get over it. You do have to learn to deal with group dynamics of any large social organization, yes. Ok, what is your suggestion to deal with the case?

Re: Branden's Platform in German, Spanish, Italian, and (some) French

2004-03-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 21 Mar 2004 11:47:03 -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've even complained about this more than once on debian-devel, and been told to just get over it. You do have to learn to deal with group dynamics of any large social

Re: Branden's Platform in German, Spanish, Italian, and (some) French

2004-03-21 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have been told more than once by Debian developers (Christian Marillat is a prime offender) that this bug is now fixed in upstream, and had the bug closed then, even though no Debian package has been uploaded.

Re: Branden's Platform in German, Spanish, Italian, and (some) French

2004-03-21 Thread Lukas Geyer
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://people.debian.org/~branden/dpl/campaign/2004/platform.xhtml.de Well, at least the German translation could need some proofreading. Just one example: Debian begeht Überfälle, offenbar überall; ich will diesen Prozess beschleunigen und Debian

Re: Branden's Platform in German, Spanish, Italian, and (some) French

2004-03-21 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 08:28:42PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As I balance, I think we should make it clearer to bug submitters that they can re-open bugs and that feedback is encouraged. What about where a bug is closed by the

Re: Branden's Platform in German, Spanish, Italian, and (some) French

2004-03-21 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have been told more than once by Debian developers (Christian Marillat is a prime offender) that this bug is now fixed in upstream, and had the bug closed then, even though no Debian package has been uploaded. That is a bug in the maintainer.

Re: Branden's Platform in German, Spanish, Italian, and (some) French

2004-03-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 20 Mar 2004 23:45:49 -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have been told more than once by Debian developers (Christian Marillat is a prime offender) that this bug is now fixed in upstream, and had the bug closed then, even

Re: Branden's Platform in German, Spanish, Italian, and (some) French

2004-03-21 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've even complained about this more than once on debian-devel, and been told to just get over it. You do have to learn to deal with group dynamics of any large social organization, yes. Ok, what is your suggestion to deal with the case?

Re: Branden's Platform in German, Spanish, Italian, and (some) French

2004-03-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 21 Mar 2004 11:47:03 -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've even complained about this more than once on debian-devel, and been told to just get over it. You do have to learn to deal with group dynamics of any large social

Re: Branden's Platform in German, Spanish, Italian, and (some) French

2004-03-21 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have been told more than once by Debian developers (Christian Marillat is a prime offender) that this bug is now fixed in upstream, and had the bug closed then, even though no Debian package has been uploaded.

Re: Branden's Platform in German, Spanish, Italian, and (some) French

2004-03-20 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As I balance, I think we should make it clearer to bug submitters that they can re-open bugs and that feedback is encouraged. What about where a bug is closed by the maintainer on the mere hope that it has been fixed by upstream? I have been told

Re: Branden's Platform in German, Spanish, Italian, and (some) French

2004-03-20 Thread Lukas Geyer
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://people.debian.org/~branden/dpl/campaign/2004/platform.xhtml.de Well, at least the German translation could need some proofreading. Just one example: Debian begeht Überfälle, offenbar überall; ich will diesen Prozess beschleunigen und Debian

Re: Branden's Platform in German, Spanish, Italian, and (some) French

2004-03-20 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 08:28:42PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As I balance, I think we should make it clearer to bug submitters that they can re-open bugs and that feedback is encouraged. What about where a bug is closed by the

Re: Branden's Platform in German, Spanish, Italian, and (some) French

2004-03-20 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-19 20:15]: In some completely different contexts, some people swear by the only person who can close a bug is the person who opened it in the first place. For example, http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog29.html (and search for that

Branden's Platform in German, Spanish, Italian, and (some) French

2004-03-19 Thread Branden Robinson
Hi folks, Since we're foregoing the rebuttals this year (and the debate, to my disappointment), I thought I'd offer this reference to translated versions of my platform. http://people.debian.org/~branden/dpl/campaign/2004/platform.xhtml.de

Re: Branden's Platform in German, Spanish, Italian, and (some) French

2004-03-19 Thread Morphix User
Branden Robinson escribió: Hi folks, Since we're foregoing the rebuttals this year (and the debate, to my disappointment), I thought I'd offer this reference to translated versions of my platform. http://people.debian.org/~branden/dpl/campaign/2004/platform.xhtml.de

Re: Branden's Platform in German, Spanish, Italian, and (some) French

2004-03-19 Thread Raul Miller
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 07:01:59PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: http://people.debian.org/~branden/dpl/campaign/2004/platform.xhtml.en One of the issues you emphasized has to do with the bug tracking system, and open communication. In some completely different contexts, some people swear by

Branden's Platform in German, Spanish, Italian, and (some) French

2004-03-19 Thread Branden Robinson
Hi folks, Since we're foregoing the rebuttals this year (and the debate, to my disappointment), I thought I'd offer this reference to translated versions of my platform. http://people.debian.org/~branden/dpl/campaign/2004/platform.xhtml.de

Re: Branden's Platform in German, Spanish, Italian, and (some) French

2004-03-19 Thread Morphix User
Branden Robinson escribió: Hi folks, Since we're foregoing the rebuttals this year (and the debate, to my disappointment), I thought I'd offer this reference to translated versions of my platform. http://people.debian.org/~branden/dpl/campaign/2004/platform.xhtml.de

Re: Branden's Platform in German, Spanish, Italian, and (some) French

2004-03-19 Thread Raul Miller
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 07:01:59PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: http://people.debian.org/~branden/dpl/campaign/2004/platform.xhtml.en One of the issues you emphasized has to do with the bug tracking system, and open communication. In some completely different contexts, some people swear by