random sig 11 in 4.0.2

2001-03-25 Thread Seth Arnold
Greetings! :) [Sent to debian-x because I do not know the proper package against which to submit a bug report. Branden, please advise for general X bug reports.] This is the second sig11 I have seen lately. I have also seen cut'n'paste fail miserably for the last few days. (Well, the cut seems

random sig 11 in 4.0.2

2001-03-24 Thread Seth Arnold
Greetings! :) [Sent to debian-x because I do not know the proper package against which to submit a bug report. Branden, please advise for general X bug reports.] This is the second sig11 I have seen lately. I have also seen cut'n'paste fail miserably for the last few days. (Well, the cut seems

developer's libs missing?

2001-03-19 Thread Seth Arnold
Greetings folks! [Apologies for not returning after winter break; my senior project is taking too much of time.] I am trying to compile plex86 on my Debian unstable system with XFree86 4.0.2-7, kernel 2.4.2 SMP (on dual celerons), glibc 2.2.2-1. I get an error message saying it cannot find

developer's libs missing?

2001-03-19 Thread Seth Arnold
Greetings folks! [Apologies for not returning after winter break; my senior project is taking too much of time.] I am trying to compile plex86 on my Debian unstable system with XFree86 4.0.2-7, kernel 2.4.2 SMP (on dual celerons), glibc 2.2.2-1. I get an error message saying it cannot find libX11

winter break

2000-12-16 Thread Seth Arnold
[this email is almost entirely useless.] I am off for winter break in a very short time. Once the debian web servers are back online, I am going to unsubscribe from debian-x -- best of luck to the regulars covering the myriad questions people manage to ask. :) I figured a heads-up was in

winter break

2000-12-16 Thread Seth Arnold
[this email is almost entirely useless.] I am off for winter break in a very short time. Once the debian web servers are back online, I am going to unsubscribe from debian-x -- best of luck to the regulars covering the myriad questions people manage to ask. :) I figured a heads-up was in

[OT] X on m68k

2000-12-14 Thread Seth Arnold
* Christian T. Steigies [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001214 03:23]: We don't _need_ to compile it on m68k, since it does not even work yet. But I still have some hope that one or more of the zillions of m68k users step forward to pick up the pieces and make X work (btw no reply yet from the X guy,

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-13 Thread Seth Arnold
* Marcelo E. Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001213 00:21]: But the question still remains: why should a user put packages on hold before an upgrade? He's got a working configuration, and AFAICS it's possible to keep it. Using the -u flag with apt would have saved him as much as using = in

Re: [jstevens@eng.mcd.mot.com: Xfree broken]

2000-12-13 Thread Seth Arnold
John, I am going to guess at what you are trying to say; cutting and pasting error messages, complete with examples of what you are trying to execture (say, how script(1) would perform) would help immensely, particularly with this description. There, that said, my guess says you are trying to

Re: [jstevens@eng.mcd.mot.com: Xfree broken]

2000-12-13 Thread Seth Arnold
[Error messages from John] [Branden -- will the Xwrapper.config 'console' or 'root' option prevent client connections from other hosts? Or does this effect only who can run X locally, as I hope it does? :] Bummer about not being able to use ssh. (Though I am surprised the firewall would let X

Re: [jstevens@eng.mcd.mot.com: Xfree broken]

2000-12-13 Thread Seth Arnold
John, I *think* xhost needs to be used more like: xhost +blah -- no space. ObQuestion: Have you restarted X since removing the -nolisten tcp bit? :) * John K. Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001213 14:43]: Seth: Oops, I am unclear again: I did use "xhost + blah", and it still refuses. Also

Re: [dwarf@polaris.net: Problem with X after upgrade to potato]

2000-12-13 Thread Seth Arnold
[No need to mail Branden directly; debian-user or debian-x are probably the better forums anyway.] * Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001213 20:46]: - Forwarded message from Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] - When working in X, I am often switching back to a console VC, and then

Re: m68k MANIFEST for xfree86_4.0.1-11

2000-12-13 Thread Seth Arnold
* Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001213 22:43]: Let me know if this works out, and I will babysit XFree86 builds for m68k myself, using the recently-donated G3. Well, I wasn't thinking of emulating one of those old machines -- I was thinking of setting up gcc to know about the processor

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-13 Thread Seth Arnold
* Marcelo E. Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001213 00:21]: But the question still remains: why should a user put packages on hold before an upgrade? He's got a working configuration, and AFAICS it's possible to keep it. Using the -u flag with apt would have saved him as much as using = in

Re: [jstevens@eng.mcd.mot.com: Xfree broken]

2000-12-13 Thread Seth Arnold
John, I am going to guess at what you are trying to say; cutting and pasting error messages, complete with examples of what you are trying to execture (say, how script(1) would perform) would help immensely, particularly with this description. There, that said, my guess says you are trying to run

Re: [jstevens@eng.mcd.mot.com: Xfree broken]

2000-12-13 Thread Seth Arnold
[Error messages from John] [Branden -- will the Xwrapper.config 'console' or 'root' option prevent client connections from other hosts? Or does this effect only who can run X locally, as I hope it does? :] Bummer about not being able to use ssh. (Though I am surprised the firewall would let X

Re: How do I get the TCP port back?

2000-12-13 Thread Seth Arnold
* Norbert Veber [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001213 13:28]: I while back during one of my upgrades, I read something about a new default -- X no longer listens on port 6000 for connections. I didnt pay much attention at the time, but now it turns out that I need to have remote X clients connecting

Re: [jstevens@eng.mcd.mot.com: Xfree broken]

2000-12-13 Thread Seth Arnold
John, I *think* xhost needs to be used more like: xhost +blah -- no space. ObQuestion: Have you restarted X since removing the -nolisten tcp bit? :) * John K. Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001213 14:43]: Seth: Oops, I am unclear again: I did use xhost + blah, and it still refuses. Also

Re: m68k MANIFEST for xfree86_4.0.1-11

2000-12-13 Thread Seth Arnold
* Christian T. Steigies [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001213 15:37]: Just for reference: Build needed 18:30:59 (so that Branden knows how long I need _at least_ to get a new MANIFEST). Could a cross-compile environment bring this down? Is there any *need* to compile these things on an m68k? I imagine

Re: [pooh@lava.cs.tu-berlin.de: Debian Package xserver-common_4.0.1-11]

2000-12-13 Thread Seth Arnold
Rene (sorry, no idea how to get the nifty ' atop the 'e'. :) -- I haven't got a clue what you mean. :) It isn't so obvious to me, nor likely obvious to anyone else, that the 3.3.6 X server is in the package labeled 4.0.1-11. :) Sometimes, it is the obvious things that need to be pointed out --

Re: [dwarf@polaris.net: Problem with X after upgrade to potato]

2000-12-13 Thread Seth Arnold
[No need to mail Branden directly; debian-user or debian-x are probably the better forums anyway.] * Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001213 20:46]: - Forwarded message from Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] - When working in X, I am often switching back to a console VC, and then

Re: Utah GLX

2000-12-12 Thread Seth Arnold
* Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix II [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001212 00:14]: You're forcing people to give up performance, correctness, and hardware GL accelration altogether in some cases. Aha! We have found the root of the problem. :) Please reconsider this statement. Who forces you to do anything?

Re: Utah GLX

2000-12-12 Thread Seth Arnold
[note: I've cut nothing from the body of Terry's original email, only interspersed my comments in his email.] * Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix II [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001212 00:52]: Seth Arnold wrote: Please reconsider this statement. Who forces you to do anything? Does Branden force you out

Re: Utah GLX

2000-12-12 Thread Seth Arnold
* Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix II [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001212 01:32]: The thing is, no one is weeding anything out. Users can still run 3.3.x. You can't install 3.3.6-18 anymore, so I think it is cutting users out. Perhaps it is cutting out users who join the project with woody's original

Re: ssh -- X11 forwarding with new server-xfree86

2000-12-12 Thread Seth Arnold
Lukas, I think there are several things going on at once. xhost allows individual hosts to connect to X -- by default, X doesn't listen to tcp sockets (the -nolisten tcp bit in one of the /etc/X11/ files) so remote hosts will not be able to connect, with or without xhost authorization. Also, ssh

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-12 Thread Seth Arnold
* Marcelo E. Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001212 14:40]: DRI's implementation is orders of magnitude cleaner and it *is* a better option for some people (most of the people, probably), but brushing Utah as a thing "in the past" is, at best, cluelessness. If *you* had trouble setting up

Xwrapper.config

2000-12-12 Thread Seth Arnold
Branden, could you change the error message (sorry, only root is allowed to run X) to state that the answer lies in Xwrapper.config, or dpkg-reconfigure correct package name here? Thanks :) -- ``Oh Lord; Ooh you are so big; So absolutely huge; Gosh we're all really impressed down here, I can

[branden@deadbeast.net: [ernst_sonnleitner@freenet.de: xdm don't run his start script with german settings (LANG=de_DE)]]

2000-12-12 Thread Seth Arnold
Ernst, I *think* the end problem is, XF86 uses a different set of locale names than FSF's glibc uses. I don't know the answer. Branden and (ben?) have exchanged a few emails in debian-x about possible solutions/sources of the problem. The debian-x archives may be interesting reading. Until

Re: [bruce@perens.com: user not authorized to run the X server]

2000-12-12 Thread Seth Arnold
* Drew Parsons [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001212 18:18]: That's dpkg-reconfigure, actually... "dpkg-reconfigure xfree86-common" doesn't seem to do anything for me. It runs, exits, and Xwrapper.config is exactly the same as it was before. This would probably mean you set your debconf severity

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-12 Thread Seth Arnold
* Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix II [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001211 23:29]: I told the X people months ago not to force out utah - that's why I'm pissed off. An overnight upgrade of gtk shouldn't break my x server. I also think hiding behind the debian stand-by "it's not even supposed to work" is why

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-12 Thread Seth Arnold
* Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix II [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001211 23:29]: I told the X people months ago not to force out utah - that's why I'm pissed off. An overnight upgrade of gtk shouldn't break my x server. I also think hiding behind the debian stand-by it's not even supposed to work is why

Re: Utah GLX

2000-12-12 Thread Seth Arnold
* Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix II [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001212 00:14]: You're forcing people to give up performance, correctness, and hardware GL accelration altogether in some cases. Aha! We have found the root of the problem. :) Please reconsider this statement. Who forces you to do anything? Does

Re: Utah GLX

2000-12-12 Thread Seth Arnold
[note: I've cut nothing from the body of Terry's original email, only interspersed my comments in his email.] * Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix II [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001212 00:52]: Seth Arnold wrote: Please reconsider this statement. Who forces you to do anything? Does Branden force you out

Re: Utah GLX

2000-12-12 Thread Seth Arnold
* Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix II [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001212 01:32]: The thing is, no one is weeding anything out. Users can still run 3.3.x. You can't install 3.3.6-18 anymore, so I think it is cutting users out. Perhaps it is cutting out users who join the project with woody's original

Re: ssh -- X11 forwarding with new server-xfree86

2000-12-12 Thread Seth Arnold
Lukas, I think there are several things going on at once. xhost allows individual hosts to connect to X -- by default, X doesn't listen to tcp sockets (the -nolisten tcp bit in one of the /etc/X11/ files) so remote hosts will not be able to connect, with or without xhost authorization. Also, ssh

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-12 Thread Seth Arnold
* Marcelo E. Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001212 14:40]: DRI's implementation is orders of magnitude cleaner and it *is* a better option for some people (most of the people, probably), but brushing Utah as a thing in the past is, at best, cluelessness. If *you* had trouble setting up Utah

[branden@deadbeast.net: [ernst_sonnleitner@freenet.de: xdm don't run his start script with german settings (LANG=de_DE)]]

2000-12-12 Thread Seth Arnold
Ernst, I *think* the end problem is, XF86 uses a different set of locale names than FSF's glibc uses. I don't know the answer. Branden and (ben?) have exchanged a few emails in debian-x about possible solutions/sources of the problem. The debian-x archives may be interesting reading. Until

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-12 Thread Seth Arnold
* Marcelo E. Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001212 16:39]: [...] and Utah's has some advantages for some people. And the one person who has seemed to be effected thus far did not take the time and effort to put his packages on hold. :-P Whether it is better or worse, I am not prepared to make

Re: [bruce@perens.com: user not authorized to run the X server]

2000-12-12 Thread Seth Arnold
* Drew Parsons [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001212 18:18]: That's dpkg-reconfigure, actually... dpkg-reconfigure xfree86-common doesn't seem to do anything for me. It runs, exits, and Xwrapper.config is exactly the same as it was before. This would probably mean you set your debconf severity level

Re: Tracking XFree86 CVS on a Potato system

2000-12-11 Thread Seth Arnold
* Juliusz Chroboczek [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001211 10:30]: First of all, I'd like to know whether building Branden's packages on a Potato system yields a usable version of XFree86. Thanks for the note about not needing CC:s. I never know when I see posts from new people. :) You can indeed build

Re: quick fix for building nvidia xfree4 drivers on kernel 2.4.0-test11

2000-12-11 Thread Seth Arnold
If the Makefile was written well, it will be simple. Open the Makefile with your favorite editor (vim is mine! :) and look for lines similar to -DSOMETHING. Add the -DKERNEL_2_3 bit to this line. Or, if there isn't something that looks right, see if there is a CCFLAGS line -- and add the

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-11 Thread Seth Arnold
Terry, a few quick comments -- first, Utah-glx is in the past. While their work may have been nifty at one point, and for people running 3.3.x perhaps necessary, XF 4.0.1 has a *much* easier GL system. Second, I'm not sure what you mean by ``I have a g400, not a v3'' -- last time I ran the

Re: [harri@synopsys.COM: gdm and kdm can't start X]

2000-12-11 Thread Seth Arnold
Would the /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config file affect gdm or kdm? * Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001211 19:46]: Not sure what the problem is here; I don't know what would make the X server become a zombie process. - Forwarded message from Harald Dunkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From:

Re: Tracking XFree86 CVS on a Potato system

2000-12-11 Thread Seth Arnold
* Juliusz Chroboczek [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001211 10:30]: First of all, I'd like to know whether building Branden's packages on a Potato system yields a usable version of XFree86. Thanks for the note about not needing CC:s. I never know when I see posts from new people. :) You can indeed build

Re: quick fix for building nvidia xfree4 drivers on kernel 2.4.0-test11

2000-12-11 Thread Seth Arnold
If the Makefile was written well, it will be simple. Open the Makefile with your favorite editor (vim is mine! :) and look for lines similar to -DSOMETHING. Add the -DKERNEL_2_3 bit to this line. Or, if there isn't something that looks right, see if there is a CCFLAGS line -- and add the

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-11 Thread Seth Arnold
Terry, a few quick comments -- first, Utah-glx is in the past. While their work may have been nifty at one point, and for people running 3.3.x perhaps necessary, XF 4.0.1 has a *much* easier GL system. Second, I'm not sure what you mean by ``I have a g400, not a v3'' -- last time I ran the dexter

Re: [harri@synopsys.COM: gdm and kdm can't start X]

2000-12-11 Thread Seth Arnold
Would the /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config file affect gdm or kdm? * Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001211 19:46]: Not sure what the problem is here; I don't know what would make the X server become a zombie process. - Forwarded message from Harald Dunkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From:

Re: [bdarrow@optonline.net: interesting problems]

2000-12-10 Thread Seth Arnold
Ok, this situation is less than fun. My first thought -- pretty much guaranteed to work -- download/buy/use the latest release of potato, and reinstall. Not much fun, but I bet X will work. Second thought -- try dpkg -l | grep 4.0.1 and apt-get remove all these packages. Check your

Re: [bdarrow@optonline.net: interesting problems]

2000-12-10 Thread Seth Arnold
Ok, this situation is less than fun. My first thought -- pretty much guaranteed to work -- download/buy/use the latest release of potato, and reinstall. Not much fun, but I bet X will work. Second thought -- try dpkg -l | grep 4.0.1 and apt-get remove all these packages. Check your

[bdarrow@optonline.net: Re: [bdarrow@optonline.net: interesting problems]]

2000-12-10 Thread Seth Arnold
from Bill Darrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 16:56:47 -0800 Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 19:54:47 -0500 From: Bill Darrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: Seth Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re

[branden@deadbeast.net: [picone@titan.eti.br: xf86cfg problems]]

2000-12-08 Thread Seth Arnold
Temporarily gone. Explanation cut; i'm tired of typing it. (archives full explanation.) - Forwarded message from Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Envelope-to: sarnold@localhost Delivery-date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 09:28:26 -0800 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 09:24:50 -0800 (PST)

[branden@deadbeast.net: [picone@titan.eti.br: xf86cfg problems]]

2000-12-08 Thread Seth Arnold
Temporarily gone. Explanation cut; i'm tired of typing it. (archives full explanation.) - Forwarded message from Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 09:28:26 -0800 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 09:24:50 -0800 (PST)

[branden@deadbeast.net: [jdfool@Club-internet.fr: Upgrading to Xfree 4.01]]

2000-12-07 Thread Seth Arnold
Sure there is Branden; Emmanuel, 4.0.1 is *not* for potato. If you want to run 4.0.1 on potato, please search for Charl P. Botha's packages built for potato. If things break, recognize that is because 4.0.1 was *never meant* for potato. If it works, then it is magic. If it breaks, that is to be

Re: [dmoulder@csse.monash.edu.au: Re: PowerPC XFree86 4.0.1buildsrevisited]

2000-12-07 Thread Seth Arnold
* Michel D?nzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001207 15:55]: Yes I have tried 800x600 and 640x480 and those modes were ok it was only my default 1024x756 which was the problem. Ahem, I was asking about other _depths_ actually, but thanks anyway :) Joining the conversation late ... err .. is 1024x756

authorized users [rfe]

2000-12-07 Thread Seth Arnold
Branden, could you add a comment line to the Xwrapper.config file to the effect of, ``Valid values are: root, console, everybody'' -- I wasn't sure when this one hit me, so I guessed (and got it right, but self-documenting config files are nice :). Thanks :) -- ``Oh Lord; Ooh you are so big;

Re: [wsheets@att.net: /usr/X11R6/bin/X (xserver-common).]

2000-12-07 Thread Seth Arnold
[branden, you *need* to change the maintainer address to debian-x -- this is getting nuts. :] Walter: the /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config file needs to be updated. Change `root' to read `console' or `everyone' (or `everybody'?). * Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001207 20:20]: - Forwarded

Re: the continuing adventures of XFree86 4.0.1

2000-12-07 Thread Seth Arnold
* Christian T. Steigies [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001207 12:02]: I have no PCI bus, I don't see PCI mentioned in the config file, is there a way to stop loading that? Me, I would try moving the module to some other directory, and see what happens. :) -- ``Oh Lord; Ooh you are so big; So absolutely

Re: [dmoulder@csse.monash.edu.au: Re: PowerPC XFree86 4.0.1buildsrevisited]

2000-12-07 Thread Seth Arnold
* Michel D?nzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001207 15:55]: Yes I have tried 800x600 and 640x480 and those modes were ok it was only my default 1024x756 which was the problem. Ahem, I was asking about other _depths_ actually, but thanks anyway :) Joining the conversation late ... err .. is 1024x756

authorized users [rfe]

2000-12-07 Thread Seth Arnold
Branden, could you add a comment line to the Xwrapper.config file to the effect of, ``Valid values are: root, console, everybody'' -- I wasn't sure when this one hit me, so I guessed (and got it right, but self-documenting config files are nice :). Thanks :) -- ``Oh Lord; Ooh you are so big; So

Re: [wsheets@att.net: /usr/X11R6/bin/X (xserver-common).]

2000-12-07 Thread Seth Arnold
[branden, you *need* to change the maintainer address to debian-x -- this is getting nuts. :] Walter: the /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config file needs to be updated. Change `root' to read `console' or `everyone' (or `everybody'?). * Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001207 20:20]: - Forwarded

Re: Problems with several application when using special locale

2000-12-05 Thread Seth Arnold
* Drew Parsons [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001205 05:09]: I don't have any locale-gen file, config or executable. Where does it come from? locales -- ``Oh Lord; Ooh you are so big; So absolutely huge; Gosh we're all really impressed down here, I can tell you.'' -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: xserver-xfree8 4.0.1-8 on powerpc

2000-12-05 Thread Seth Arnold
* Frederic Seraphine [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001205 15:54]: Depth 16 (not 16 bpp!) is a weird mode indeed. In depth 16, the thought it was the same thing. I still must be computer graphic illiterate :-).o I always knew in my heart of hearts that the asymmetric nature of depth 16 was bad news; now

Re: Problems with several application when using special locale

2000-12-05 Thread Seth Arnold
* Drew Parsons [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001205 05:09]: I don't have any locale-gen file, config or executable. Where does it come from? locales -- ``Oh Lord; Ooh you are so big; So absolutely huge; Gosh we're all really impressed down here, I can tell you.''

Re: xserver-xfree8 4.0.1-8 on powerpc

2000-12-05 Thread Seth Arnold
* Frederic Seraphine [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001205 15:54]: Depth 16 (not 16 bpp!) is a weird mode indeed. In depth 16, the thought it was the same thing. I still must be computer graphic illiterate :-).o I always knew in my heart of hearts that the asymmetric nature of depth 16 was bad news;

Re: Problems with several application when using special locale

2000-12-04 Thread Seth Arnold
* Morten B. Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001204 02:28]: When I use locale 'da_DK', xchat, Eterm and licq becomes unstable, (xchat segfaults, Eterm hangs, licq segfaults from time to time) Setting locale to 'C' solve these problems, I believe that this has something do with the latest X.

Re: Problems with several application when using special locale

2000-12-04 Thread Seth Arnold
* Morten B. Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001204 02:28]: When I use locale 'da_DK', xchat, Eterm and licq becomes unstable, (xchat segfaults, Eterm hangs, licq segfaults from time to time) Setting locale to 'C' solve these problems, I believe that this has something do with the latest X.

Re: [aaron@eazel.com: xfonts-*]

2000-12-04 Thread Seth Arnold
Aaron, please ensure you have the xutils package installed, per the suggestion in the xfonts-* package descriptions. * Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001204 15:18]: Sounds like he is using a really old phase1 or phase2 package. - Forwarded message from Aaron Brick [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: half-offtopic-kde

2000-12-03 Thread Seth Arnold
Greetings Debian User, you should consider debian-user@lists.debian.org isntead of debian-x -- this mail list is intended for X developers. As for your question, something like: dpkg -i kde*deb in the directory you downloaded all the kde debs ought to do the job. BTW -- why not just use apt with

Re: XFree86 4 and vmware / DGA

2000-12-03 Thread Seth Arnold
[Do you ever have one of those days when it just isn't obvious what quoting would be best to trim? This is one of those days. :] * Johannes Zellner [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001203 13:20]: Hi, did anyone manage to run vmware-2 fullscreen with DGA on XFree86 4.x ? -- I get the vmware message:

Re: Problem getting XF 4.0.1(g) to work with Matrox G450

2000-12-02 Thread Seth Arnold
* Frederik Vanrenterghem [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001202 08:46]: I've tried recompiling the kernel (a 2.4.0test10), but that didn't work out, probably due to my Asus A7V motherboard or Duron 700 CPU or something. uhhh... this should be investigated. Compiling an application is a fairly

Re: FW: [otto.wyss@csam.com: XFree 4.0.1-8 crashes my systemcompletl y, how can I retrieve inf ormation fora bug report]

2000-12-02 Thread Seth Arnold
* Otto Wyss [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001201 22:07]: Okay, I'm going to send what I've gotten just to you, since it's rather much and you might decide what should be sent to debian-x. Well, I like to see everything, and I imagine anyone else would like to see everything too. :) First my

Re: Problem getting XF 4.0.1(g) to work with Matrox G450

2000-12-02 Thread Seth Arnold
* Frederik Vanrenterghem [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001202 08:46]: I've tried recompiling the kernel (a 2.4.0test10), but that didn't work out, probably due to my Asus A7V motherboard or Duron 700 CPU or something. uhhh... this should be investigated. Compiling an application is a fairly

Re: [joy@cibalia.gkvk.hr: Bug#68389: [nrounds@haverford.edu: Re: Bug#68389 acknowledged by developer (fixed with -7)]]

2000-11-30 Thread Seth Arnold
Nathaniel, you are right -- reporting a bug against -10 and hearing it is fixed in -7 is a little strange. WRT your error message, I have approached similar problems in the past by using dpkg directly on the apt-downloaded .deb packages, using the --force-overwrite option. The problem isn't the

Re: FW: [otto.wyss@csam.com: XFree 4.0.1-8 crashes my systemcompletl y, how can I retrieve inf ormation fora bug report]

2000-11-30 Thread Seth Arnold
* Otto Wyss [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001130 15:11]: Sorry if I had known, that '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' gets relayed to debian-x, I wouldn't have sent it. Usually I send everything first at my home address and than out to the world. Well, Branden forwards email sent to his own account to debian-x if he

Re: [joy@cibalia.gkvk.hr: Bug#68389: [nrounds@haverford.edu: Re: Bug#68389 acknowledged by developer (fixed with -7)]]

2000-11-30 Thread Seth Arnold
won't install on my system, then I would love to hear about it. I was specifically curious whether whatever action resulted in my bug report being closed involved insight that might be helpful to me. Anyway, thanks again for your time. Nathaniel On Thu, 30 Nov 2000, Seth Arnold

Re: [otto.wyss@csam.com: XFree 4.0.1-8 crashes my system completly, how can I retrieve inf ormation fora bug report]

2000-11-30 Thread Seth Arnold
Goodness; what a horrible .signature. That would be a real incentive for me to find a different employer. :) [Branden: it isn't Craig that you need to worry about -- it is RMS! :] In the meantime Otto, check your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file for a fontpath element that is a unix-domain socket,

Re: [joy@cibalia.gkvk.hr: Bug#68389: [nrounds@haverford.edu: Re: Bug#68389 acknowledged by developer (fixed with -7)]]

2000-11-30 Thread Seth Arnold
Nathaniel, you are right -- reporting a bug against -10 and hearing it is fixed in -7 is a little strange. WRT your error message, I have approached similar problems in the past by using dpkg directly on the apt-downloaded .deb packages, using the --force-overwrite option. The problem isn't the

Re: [joy@cibalia.gkvk.hr: Bug#68389: [nrounds@haverford.edu: Re: Bug#68389 acknowledged by developer (fixed with -7)]]

2000-11-30 Thread Seth Arnold
* Rounds Nathaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001130 16:38]: I don't know if you have access to the original bug report, but I tried Heh, the wonderful thing about debian is that the bug reports are all available via a filesystem rather than through CGI business. So, all the debian bug reports get

Re: [joy@cibalia.gkvk.hr: Bug#68389: [nrounds@haverford.edu: Re: Bug#68389 acknowledged by developer (fixed with -7)]]

2000-11-30 Thread Seth Arnold
won't install on my system, then I would love to hear about it. I was specifically curious whether whatever action resulted in my bug report being closed involved insight that might be helpful to me. Anyway, thanks again for your time. Nathaniel On Thu, 30 Nov 2000, Seth Arnold

Re: upgrading to the X4 server

2000-11-29 Thread Seth Arnold
* Johannes Zellner [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001129 16:55]: is there any documentation how to upgrade from a 3.3.6 Server to the 4.x server? No, I don't think there is. However, this might help you: (And no, I don't know why I installed the proxy, frame buffer deal, nested X server, or what uses the

Re: modules for the X 4.x server

2000-11-29 Thread Seth Arnold
* Johannes Zellner [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001129 18:19]: is there a location where I can find information about all the modules which are coming with the new X Server ? Short of the source, I think my XF86Config-4 file is the closest thing around. :) $ cat /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | grep -i load

Re: upgrading to the X4 server

2000-11-29 Thread Seth Arnold
* Johannes Zellner [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001129 16:55]: is there any documentation how to upgrade from a 3.3.6 Server to the 4.x server? No, I don't think there is. However, this might help you: (And no, I don't know why I installed the proxy, frame buffer deal, nested X server, or what uses the X

Re: X 4 xf86cfg

2000-11-29 Thread Seth Arnold
* Johannes Zellner [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001129 18:14]: wow, my X4 is already running. But when I try to use xf86cfg I get a message: Cannot open Cards database. what am I missing? Line 164 in changelog.Debian.gz for xfree86-common: * debian/xserver-xfree86.*: stop shipping

Re: modules for the X 4.x server

2000-11-29 Thread Seth Arnold
* Johannes Zellner [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001129 18:19]: is there a location where I can find information about all the modules which are coming with the new X Server ? Short of the source, I think my XF86Config-4 file is the closest thing around. :) $ cat /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | grep -i load

Re: NV r128 problems with 4.0.1-8

2000-11-28 Thread Seth Arnold
[Sorry for quick reply, class starts soon :] Jelmer, I too have noticed this. I normally run mozilla instead of netscsape navigator 4.x, but it most definately corresponds to the browser -- click *poof*, drag *poof*, etc. I too am running a 2.4.0 kernel, 2.4.0-test10. I am running these on an

[branden@deadbeast.net: [wmhardrock@hotmail.com: Broken badly]]

2000-11-28 Thread Seth Arnold
Vincent, please don't email branden directly -- for details of debian packaging, debian-x is the correct forum; for general debian integration, debian-user is probably the correct forum; for general X questions, the xfree86.org lists are probably correct. In the meantime, try directly

[branden@deadbeast.net: [alex_f@uclink4.berkeley.edu: xc/lib/Xaw/Text.c truncated in xfree86-1, 3.3.6-11]]

2000-11-28 Thread Seth Arnold
Alex, Branden suggests checking the amount of drive space you have free. This seems wise enough, though I imagine you wouldn otice the problem elsewhere. How about quotas? Are you running into quotas? Considering that something builds, I am imagining that it wasn't a problem for whoever built

Re: NV r128 problems with 4.0.1-8

2000-11-28 Thread Seth Arnold
[Sorry for quick reply, class starts soon :] Jelmer, I too have noticed this. I normally run mozilla instead of netscsape navigator 4.x, but it most definately corresponds to the browser -- click *poof*, drag *poof*, etc. I too am running a 2.4.0 kernel, 2.4.0-test10. I am running these on an

[branden@deadbeast.net: [wmhardrock@hotmail.com: Broken badly]]

2000-11-28 Thread Seth Arnold
Vincent, please don't email branden directly -- for details of debian packaging, debian-x is the correct forum; for general debian integration, debian-user is probably the correct forum; for general X questions, the xfree86.org lists are probably correct. In the meantime, try directly

[branden@deadbeast.net: [alex_f@uclink4.berkeley.edu: xc/lib/Xaw/Text.c truncated in xfree86-1, 3.3.6-11]]

2000-11-28 Thread Seth Arnold
Alex, Branden suggests checking the amount of drive space you have free. This seems wise enough, though I imagine you wouldn otice the problem elsewhere. How about quotas? Are you running into quotas? Considering that something builds, I am imagining that it wasn't a problem for whoever built

app-defaults

2000-11-27 Thread Seth Arnold
I get an error of this sort: Preparing to replace xlibs 4.0.1-7 (using .../xlibs_4.0.1-8_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement xlibs ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_4.0.1-8_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults', which is also in

app-defaults

2000-11-27 Thread Seth Arnold
I get an error of this sort: Preparing to replace xlibs 4.0.1-7 (using .../xlibs_4.0.1-8_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement xlibs ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_4.0.1-8_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults', which is also in

Re: [andreas@schuldei.org: xterm keyboard]

2000-11-22 Thread Seth Arnold
On top of that, if he wants harsh, he should read posts by Theo de Raadt or D.J. Bernstein (sp?) some time. Someone even drew a rough picture of Theo clubbing someone for not reading manpages. :- Hehehe. * Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001121 22:41]: I'm not even sure what he's talking

Re: [giuliano@ronchiato.it: X 4.0.1-6: problems]

2000-11-22 Thread Seth Arnold
Giuliano, I posted much the same question as your #1 yesterday, and someone had posted a response to my question shortly after I asked. Check the debian-x archives for their response. :) Regarding xf86cfg, this is to be expected. It is not nearly ready to be called a production tool. You can use

xserver-xfree86 postinst fails in 4.0.1-6

2000-11-21 Thread Seth Arnold
Branden, my roommate is having trouble with the 4.0.1-6 upgrade. He started out with a previous 4.0.1-x release, likely -3, -4 or -5. The error message returned is that the postinst failed. We have received two different error messages -- exit status 1 and exit status 5. Running startx as a user

[oryn@mysteriousways.co.uk: Re: r128 driver broken]

2000-11-20 Thread Seth Arnold
to be re-examined?) ;) [hmm. I'm sorry to notice my .sig did not survive oryn's quoting... I'll change that. :] - Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Envelope-to: sarnold@localhost Delivery-date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 02:01:04 -0800 To: Seth Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: r128 driver

Re: [ketil@ii.uib.no: Bug#77511: relationships between packages for 3d support]

2000-11-20 Thread Seth Arnold
Ketil, the problem is, it *is* a complex relationship. Trying to explain the relationship in a package description is going to either bloat the package descriptions to many many pages, or will drive the author of any such description to commit themselves to a nearby mental institution. The main

[oryn@mysteriousways.co.uk: Re: r128 driver broken]

2000-11-20 Thread Seth Arnold
to be re-examined?) ;) [hmm. I'm sorry to notice my .sig did not survive oryn's quoting... I'll change that. :] - Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 02:01:04 -0800 To: Seth Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: r128 driver

[ketil@ii.uib.no: Re: [ketil@ii.uib.no: Bug#77511: relationships between packages for 3d support]]

2000-11-20 Thread Seth Arnold
/xlibmesa3 /usr/share/doc/xlibmesa3/copyright /usr/share/doc/xlibmesa3/changelog.Debian.gz Both are needed. Cheers :) - Forwarded message from Ketil Malde [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 04:18:00 -0800 To: Seth Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject

Re: [yori_h@nifty.com: (bug) xserver-xfree86_4.0.1-5]

2000-11-19 Thread Seth Arnold
* Taketoshi Sano [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001119 05:00]: Or you mean just the man page symlinking ? If so, excuse me for my confusion. Yes, man page symlinks. :) -- ``Oh Lord; Ooh you are so big; So absolutely huge; Gosh we're all really impressed down here, I can tell you.''

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