RE: [Declude.JunkMail] AV Recommendations

2002-05-29 Thread David Lewis-Waller
We used F-PROT only, updated once every hour, and advise clients this is just a first line of defence and advise them to keep their AVs up to date as well. -Original Message- From: Bill Newberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 May 2002 21:32 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE:

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Gateway Settings...

2002-05-29 Thread Mark Smith
But won't enabling it in the \global.cfg file start that test for all mails? I would assume that it should only be a weighted test in the global.cfg and not have a direct action? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry

[Declude.JunkMail] any way

2002-05-29 Thread Andrew Fretwell
Hi I'm new to declude software and this list Is there a way to ban a certain to address in a message like undisclosed recipients. or No to address I had to turn of Bad headers and Spam headers as it was catching to much good mail as well Andrew Fretwell TechSupport www.apstechnology.com

[Declude.JunkMail] Fails Headers test, BUT....

2002-05-29 Thread Rusty Nations
Scott (and Everybody), The following tripped our SPAMHEADERS test. This was odd because I get this newsletter a few times a week and this was the first time it had failed. So I jumped up to the header check tool (http://www.declude.com/tools/header.php?code=420e) and discovered the issue was

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] any way

2002-05-29 Thread R. Scott Perry
Hi I'm new to declude software and this list Is there a way to ban a certain to address in a message like undisclosed recipients. or No to address No, there is no way to do that yet. I had to turn of Bad headers and Spam headers as it was catching to much good mail as well Those two tests

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Gateway Settings...

2002-05-29 Thread R. Scott Perry
But won't enabling it in the \global.cfg file start that test for all mails? That's not enabling the test; it just defines the test. If you don't have the CATCHALLMAILS catchallmails... line in the global.cfg file, then the CATCHALLMAILS test doesn't exist. I would assume that it should

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Fails Headers test, BUT....

2002-05-29 Thread R. Scott Perry
The following tripped our SPAMHEADERS test. This was odd because I get this newsletter a few times a week and this was the first time it had failed. So I jumped up to the header check tool (http://www.declude.com/tools/header.php?code=420e) and discovered the issue was a missing message id

[Declude.JunkMail] Nothing but headers

2002-05-29 Thread Dale McDiarmid
Hello... After having JunkMail for a week or two, I'm surprised that all the spams are either Badheaders, Spamheaders (and a couple of Routings). I would have expected to see more caught against the other tests but have yet to see any. Is this normal? Thx, D. --- [This E-mail was scanned for

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] any way

2002-05-29 Thread Glenn \\ WCNet
I got an on-line order confirmation from QuillCorp.com that failed both BADHEADERS and SPAMHEADERS. Glenn Z. - Original Message - From: R. Scott Perry To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] any way Hi

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Nothing but headers

2002-05-29 Thread R. Scott Perry
After having JunkMail for a week or two, I'm surprised that all the spams are either Badheaders, Spamheaders (and a couple of Routings). I would have expected to see more caught against the other tests but have yet to see any. Is this normal? No -- you should be seeing lots of other tests

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] any way

2002-05-29 Thread R. Scott Perry
I got an on-line order confirmation from QuillCorp.com that failed both BADHEADERS and SPAMHEADERS. Then they definitely need to fix the problem. I would suggest contacting [EMAIL PROTECTED] to let them know about the problem. Any E-mail that fails the BADHEADERS test indicates a serious

[Declude.JunkMail] This E-mail has a bogus Message-ID: header.

2002-05-29 Thread Paul
Scott, Our server was generating emails that failed the spam headers test because there was no Message-ID, We added a Message-ID and now we get this message: Code: 8000800e. The E-mail failed the BADHEADERS test. This E-mail has a bogus Message-ID: header. What exactly is Declude looking

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] This E-mail has a bogus Message-ID:header.

2002-05-29 Thread R. Scott Perry
Our server was generating emails that failed the spam headers test because there was no Message-ID, We added a Message-ID and now we get this message: Code: 8000800e. The E-mail failed the BADHEADERS test. This E-mail has a bogus Message-ID: header. What exactly is Declude looking for

[Declude.JunkMail] The chicken or the egg...?

2002-05-29 Thread Rusty Nations
Which happens first, junkmail or virus filtering? rusty --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] The chicken or the egg...?

2002-05-29 Thread R. Scott Perry
Which happens first, junkmail or virus filtering? Normally, the virus filtering is done first. However, the latest version of Declude has an option AVAFTERJM ON that can be used to have the virus scanning done after the spam scanning. -Scott --- [This

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] The chicken or the egg...?

2002-05-29 Thread Todd Holt
It would seem more efficient to have the Junkmail filtered first, then only AV scan the good ones. But, does that leave a hole in the AV protection? Can you give us any scenerios in which you would recommend one over the other? Todd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] The chicken or the egg...?

2002-05-29 Thread R. Scott Perry
It would seem more efficient to have the Junkmail filtered first, then only AV scan the good ones. But, does that leave a hole in the AV protection? Can you give us any scenerios in which you would recommend one over the other? This was actually brought up here quite recently (last week?). It

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] This E-mail has a bogus Message-ID: header.

2002-05-29 Thread Paul
Here's our header. Got SPAMHEADERS warning because of no Message-ID, added the Message-ID that you see there and now get BADHEADERS. X-F: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed May 29 13:12:21 2002 Received: from SMTP32-FWD by CommerceStreet.com (SMTP32) id A06EC; Wed, 29 May 2002 13:12:18 -0500 Received:

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] This E-mail has a bogus Message-ID:header.

2002-05-29 Thread R. Scott Perry
Here's our header. Got SPAMHEADERS warning because of no Message-ID, added the Message-ID that you see there and now get BADHEADERS. Message-ID: Shopping Cart System by CommerceStreet.com That's because the Message-ID: header has a specific format -- it's supposed to uniquely identify an

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Nothing but headers

2002-05-29 Thread Dale McDiarmid
You da man! There was a typo in the primary DNS. Already have received a Mailfrom and Revdns since making the correction. (Strange to feel good about that :o) ). Never noticed the incorrect DNS since I could browse the internet just fine on the alternate. Typo's probably been there since

[Declude.JunkMail] DNS server

2002-05-29 Thread Craig Gittens
Is there a setting in the global.cfg to add a DNS server? Would it use this server instead of the Imail settings? Craig --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] any way FYI

2002-05-29 Thread J Porter
I've also seen several legitimate emails that failed the BADHEADERS test. After studying a test group for about 3 weeks, I came to the conclusion that I could catch a lot of spam email but still allow 99+% of legitimate email to go through by using a Weight test with a value of 22. This still

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] any way FYI

2002-05-29 Thread Todd Holt
Unfortunately, I had to stop trying to tell people because it took up so much time. And most had an email tone like this: (o|o) - Totally clueless! Didn't care! Todd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spammers getting smarter?

2002-05-29 Thread Glenn \\ WCNet
Yes, I've gotten several spams that didn't fail any tests. I've added some to my blacklist test, but I doubt that will do much good in the end. Glenn Z. - Original Message - From: Mark Smith To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 5:50 PM

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spammers getting smarter?

2002-05-29 Thread Matt Robertson
Yup. I don't bother with a blacklist as these clowns are always one step ahead of me in this regard. Gave up on blacklisting domains long ago. Some ideas on going to the next level: a)give the SpamCop test a weight heavy enough to fail a message on its own. Imperfect at best. b) use

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spammers getting smarter?

2002-05-29 Thread Webmaster Oilfield Directory
You mean there is a permission based thingey for Declude??? i'd like to know about it. You guys are moving so fast i can't even keep up anymore LOL! Gave up long ago I just nod my head and go... that's sounds good, don't have a clue what your talking about. :) - Original Message - From:

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spammers getting smarter?

2002-05-29 Thread Madscientist
Title: Message It is a full scale arms race - we've seen some amazing things... _M -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark SmithSent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 7:08 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]