Re: [Declude.JunkMail] MONKEYFORMMAIL:update from 7.04HF2 to7.07HF1

2002-06-18 Thread R. Scott Perry
I'm currently running Imail 7.04HF2 with Declude 1.38 and KWM 2.0.9. Is there anything I should know before upgrading? Should I upgrade Declude first? The IMail upgrades often overwrite the Declude registry entries, so after upgrading, it's a good idea to run the \IMail\Declude.exe file

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] feature request?

2002-06-18 Thread R. Scott Perry
I was wondering if it were possible to define a different directory (or folder) for any specified test. This would or could be configured in the $default$.junkmail file. This is something that has been requested several times, and something that we will likely be adding to an upcoming

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Add more to your Kill File

2002-06-18 Thread R. Scott Perry
Actually I think most people are using this list for their fromfile (KFROM) tests. Ah, good point. While we're at it, I should mention that the next beta release of Declude JunkMail will have a new filter test type, similar to the fromfile/ipfile test types, that will be much more

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam from 'myself'

2002-06-18 Thread Todd Ryan
I just got a similar report from one of my users. And it DID fail various tests that would have triggered BOUNCE if I didn't have my local server and domain WHITELISTed. I'm not sure how to proceed. If I take my own server and domain out of the whitelist and these messages come through, my

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Add more to your Kill File

2002-06-18 Thread John Tolmachoff
Mail.ru appears to be a yahoo.com like site. Lots of different information and news and entertainment categories. It looks like the Mail is also similar to yahoo mail. I actually know some people in Russia that use in to communicate with people here. Hope that helps. John Tolmachoff IT

KITHRUP:Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam from 'myself'

2002-06-18 Thread Mike Nice
I don't know if SMTP Auth leaves a signature in the header that can be whitelisted, otherwise this test will throw out SMTP Auth - sent messages. - Original Message - WHITELIST @acsworld.net 12.4.184.3 (whitelist @acsworld.net messages from that IP address only). saying why did

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam from 'myself'

2002-06-18 Thread Dale McDiarmid
Excellent idea. I'll try it. Thx, D. At 07:49 AM 6/18/2002 -0700, you wrote: Instead of whitelisting your domain names, or even specific e-mail addresses, why not whitelist your own address space? WHITELIST IP xxx.xxx.xxx.0/24 Otherwise anyone can send an e-mail message with a from

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam from 'myself'

2002-06-18 Thread Todd Ryan
OK...I think I have an idea...tell me if this sounds like it will work...as a couple others have said, I can whitelist just my IP range and not the domain name. That will let stuff from my users to my users pass but only if it's via MY server. And to handle the part about the BOUNCE messages

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] aliases and junkmail

2002-06-18 Thread R. Scott Perry
I turned on the debug mode for junkmail and tried to replicate the problem of declude not adding the subject for some messages. It seems (at least in my setup) that if you send an email to an alias that resolves to another alias (ie mailto:alias@domain1alias@domain1 or

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] aliases and junkmail

2002-06-18 Thread Charles Frolick
Scott, How would it handle a mailbox with a forward to address defined? i.e. If alias@domain1 was a mailbox, but had the forward list of alias@domain2. Just curious, since Imail will not leave a copy on forward unless you use .,email@domain. Chuck Frolick ArgoNet, Inc. -Original

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam folder

2002-06-18 Thread John Tolmachoff
Feature request? :) John Tolmachoff IT Manager, Network Engineer RelianceSoft, Inc. Fullerton, CA 92835 www.reliancesoft.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 9:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] aliases and junkmail

2002-06-18 Thread R. Scott Perry
Here's the the part of the log file that shows it using e:\Imail\Declude\$default$.junkmail. I'll send the entire log file to your address if you would like. That's OK -- there should be enough information in here. IMail is reporting the alias as [EMAIL PROTECTED], and Declude JunkMail isn't

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] aliases and junkmail

2002-06-18 Thread Alex Artigues
No, but the e:\imail\declude\mail.astnetworks.com\$default$.JunkMail file exists and declude uses that for eveything except: alias-alias-realaccount Mail.astnetworks.com is the host name and astnetworks.com is the host alias. - Original Message - From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] aliases and junkmail

2002-06-18 Thread R. Scott Perry
No, but the e:\imail\declude\mail.astnetworks.com\$default$.JunkMail file exists and declude uses that for eveything except: alias-alias-realaccount Mail.astnetworks.com is the host name and astnetworks.com is the host alias. Sorry, my mistake. Declude JunkMail normally looks at the actual

[Declude.JunkMail] adult language test?

2002-06-18 Thread Helpdesk
I know there is an undocumented adult test in Declude, but I was wondering if there could be an adult language test added to the program? Or maybe that test does that. I would like to add the subject Adult: to any message that would pass the other Declude tests and contained words like XXX,

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] adult language test?

2002-06-18 Thread Bill Landry
Hmmm, I would like to know more about this undocumented adult test that Declude has--how does one implement it and what kinds of things does it look for? Thanks, Bill -Original Message- From: Helpdesk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 11:17 AM To: [EMAIL

[Declude.JunkMail] Declude JunkMail v1.55 (beta) released

2002-06-18 Thread R. Scott Perry
We have just released Declude JunkMail v1.55 (beta), at http://www.declude.com/junkmail/manual.htm . Changes include: o Renamed FOLDER action to MAILBOX, to avoid confusion o Fixes an issue with the new IP detection from 1.54 in multihop setups. o %WARNING% variable can

[Declude.JunkMail] New filter test

2002-06-18 Thread R. Scott Perry
Declude JunkMail v1.55 (beta) now includes the ability to use some basic filtering. First, you need to define the test, by adding a line like the following to your global.cfg file: MYFILTERfilter c:\IMail\Declude\myfilter.txt x 5 0 Then, you need to create the

[Declude.JunkMail] Interesting new spam

2002-06-18 Thread Scott MacLean
I just saw an interesting new method of getting spam through without being rejected. The body of the message (HTML code only) was not separated from the header by a CR/LF CR/LF - only a single one, so the advertising body was actually part of the header. My Eudora read and rendered the message

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Interesting new spam

2002-06-18 Thread Henry H. Isgett
Title: Message We are getting this too. Declude Virus has blocked them due to the Outlook 'CR' Vulnerability. Henry Isgett -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Scott MacLeanSent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 3:53 PMTo: [EMAIL

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Add more to your Kill File

2002-06-18 Thread Henry H. Isgett
This is probably in the archives of this list somewhere, but I need help understanding how the Imail KILL list works in reference with Declude junkmail. I am testing using the kill list for the domains that send me the most spam but until I see that it works I have a blacklist setup for Declude

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Add more to your Kill File

2002-06-18 Thread Henry H. Isgett
Scott, Here is the header information on the example email I was referring to. As you can see the 'Reply-to:' with @boing.topica.com. My blacklist just has 'topica.com' and Declude catches it just nicely. But based on what you have responded, that this should not have made it to Declude if

[Declude.JunkMail] kill file vs blacklist

2002-06-18 Thread Rick Davidson
A little food for thought on using the Imail kill file versus the declude blacklist... The Imail kill file refuses the mail at the SMTP level which may alert the spammer that your blocking them. Not to mention that the cpu burden is put on smtp32.exe instead of passing it off to declude.exe

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Add more to your Kill File

2002-06-18 Thread Henry H. Isgett
Scott, I have turned on XSENDER and here is another example of a domain that is getting blocked by my blacklist but not by the kill list. I have 'bonustree.com' in my kill list. The reply to addy that declude is displaying is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Should this not get stopped by the kill list?

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Add more to your Kill File

2002-06-18 Thread R. Scott Perry
I have turned on XSENDER and here is another example of a domain that is getting blocked by my blacklist but not by the kill list. I have 'bonustree.com' in my kill list. The reply to addy that declude is displaying is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Should this not get stopped by the kill list? IMail uses

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] kill file vs blacklist

2002-06-18 Thread R. Scott Perry
If I use the DELETE option for emails that fail the test for my black list, would that not server the same purpose? Plus make it a bit more friendlier to my server? It would serve the same purpose, *except* that the sender will not know what happened. The load will be a little more than if

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Add more to your Kill File

2002-06-18 Thread Tom
Although it isn't completely on topic (since it involves IMail's Kill List), it's something that should be of interest to many people on this list. So unless I hear people complaining about it, feel free to continue. :) -Scott Actually this has nothing

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Add more to your Kill File

2002-06-18 Thread Tom
Mail.ru appears to be a yahoo.com like site. Lots of different information and news and entertainment categories. It looks like the Mail is also similar to yahoo mail. I actually know some people in Russia that use in to communicate with people here. Ok, it was removed anyway. Regards,

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] kill file vs blacklist

2002-06-18 Thread Tom
I have been retaliated against many times by spammers :-) and would rather not anger them because they have already proven themselves to be unscrupulous individuals. I have to agree, if we gave them a challenge they will try harder. I would rather them not know what we are doing, though

[Declude.JunkMail] How many Exchange users out there?

2002-06-18 Thread Mark Smith
I'm curious to see how many people are using iMail with Junkmail as a gateway for their Exchange system? We're currently using it because I just can't find anything better than Junkmail. The problem is that I'm having a hard time convincing others to buy iMail just to be a SMTP gateway for SPAM

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] FromFile Question

2002-06-18 Thread R. Scott Perry
Since Declude can use Your own sender blacklists I need some more information on the FromFile. 1. What are the limitations on this file? None that I am aware of. 2. It has been written with a test name, is this optional? for example: AddressName1 TestName AddressName2

[Declude.JunkMail] HELO:Stats

2002-06-18 Thread Scott Marx
Can anyone suggest a program that read the log files for Declude and give me stats on each failed test? Scott Marx My Tangledweb --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe,

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] FromFile Question

2002-06-18 Thread Tom
TJ1. What are the limitations on this file? S- None that I am aware of. TJAddressName2 TestName S-That isn't the test name -- it's a description S-(used in the %WARNING% variable, similar to the TXT Understood, so this method should help me locate the text description in the Declude log

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELO:Stats

2002-06-18 Thread Tom
Can anyone suggest a program that read the log files for Declude and give me stats on each failed test? You can try and download the following program from the url listed below: http://www.imagefxonline.net/apps/delog Regards, Tom --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Latest KillFile report

2002-06-18 Thread Tom
If your curious, here are the latest stats on our KILLFILE. Delog Version 1.06b Detailed Report for: 06/18/2002 22:07:04 Log file examined: N:\IMAIL\SPOOL\DEC0618.LOG Unique Message Count: 2745 Failed Message Count: 1508 Total

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] kill file vs blacklist

2002-06-18 Thread J Porter
hmmm... decisions... decsions... 1. Let the spammer know we're fighting back in which case they might try other tactics? or change tactics? or ?? or 2. Let them think we're an easy target so they keep on doing what they're doing except more of it and even invite their buddies to join in. I think

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] How many Exchange users out there?

2002-06-18 Thread Quang Sun
Mark, I was actually thinking about doing this. How is your Imail system configured? I have never setup Imail as a gateway before. -- Original Message -- From: Mark Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 19:41:40

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How many Exchange users out there?

2002-06-18 Thread Merrilee Chadder
We have been using IMAIL for a few years as a gateway for our exchange servers. IMAIL resides in our primary DMZ zone while our Exchange Servers reside way behind a couple of firewalls. I like this configuration because of its simplicity and IMAIL's ability to add many domains which Exchange

DSN:Re: [Declude.JunkMail] How many Exchange users out there?

2002-06-18 Thread smb
This is the knowledge base file for using IMail as a gateway. http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/IM-19980116-DM01.htm Stu At 08:03 PM 06/18/2002 -0700, you wrote: Mark, I was actually thinking about doing this. How is your Imail system configured? I have never setup Imail as a gateway before.

AW: [Declude.JunkMail] More to check

2002-06-18 Thread Gufler Markus
The first one is an italian university. I'm note sure about this university but normaly any professor and any student can use a mailbox on the uni-mailserver. Markus -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Im Auftrag von Tom Gesendet: