RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Fine tuning

2002-09-11 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
Lower the weights of the noabuse/nopostmaster tests for one. I think the default is 5 for each. The noabuse/nopostmaster tests fail for most of the big guys (aol.com,earthlink.net,msn.com,etc,etc...) Or You might play by raising the weight of the other tests and trapping/bouncing on a higher

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Fine tuning

2002-09-11 Thread John Tolmachoff
I agree with Tom on Bounce. When I first implemented JunkMail, I would Bounce messages. I then got tired of dealing with all the failed Bounce. Now I hold and every couple of days I go through and delete all held messages over 5 days old. 5 Days is plenty of time for someone to complain they

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelist Troubles

2002-09-11 Thread Kami Razvan
Hi; I think Declude looks at this: X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Two possibilities: - @postino.ch is whitelisted - [EMAIL PROTECTED] is whitelisted. At least that is my understanding... Kami -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelist Troubles

2002-09-11 Thread Koree A. Smith
These are the whitelist entries: #Exceptions for [EMAIL PROTECTED] WHITELIST ANYWHERE[EMAIL PROTECTED] WHITELIST FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED] WHITELIST TO [EMAIL PROTECTED] WHITELIST TO [EMAIL PROTECTED] WHITELIST TO [EMAIL PROTECTED] WHITELIST TO [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Fine tuning

2002-09-11 Thread Rick Davidson
I bounce on RBLs only. I created an account called spam-bounce and setup and Imail rule to delete any mail sent to that address. Then I set the bounce email from address to [EMAIL PROTECTED] that way if they come back they are deleted by the system. Make sure you provide adequate info in your

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Fine tuning

2002-09-11 Thread R. Scott Perry
I bounce on RBLs only. I created an account called spam-bounce and setup and Imail rule to delete any mail sent to that address. Then I set the bounce email from address to [EMAIL PROTECTED] that way if they come back they are deleted by the system. Make sure you provide adequate info in your

[Declude.JunkMail] At least they're honest !

2002-09-11 Thread Frederick P. Squib, Jr.
Gave me a chuckle, thought I'd share Received: from mail.reallyfakedomain.com [64.158.31.171] by wpa.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.12) id A28419320042; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:34:28 -0400 Received: from heater (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.reallyfakedomain.com (Postfix) with SMTP id

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Consistant spam

2002-09-11 Thread Sheldon Koehler
Using the latest beta, you can set up a filter that would reject any E-mail with mx-man.net in the headers. Thanks! I have not had much time this summer to follow the betas and the features you have been adding. Sheldon Sheldon Koehler, Owner/Partnerhttp://www.tenforward.com Ten

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More encoded spam

2002-09-11 Thread Helpdesk
on 9/5/02 9:23 PM, Madscientist wrote: All this is good I guess. Until we come up with some good examples of legitimate messages with text/html base64 then we won't completely settle the issue. It does seem that the evidence so far is strongly in favor of a spam/no-spam test for base64

AW: [Declude.JunkMail] More encoded spam

2002-09-11 Thread Gufler Markus
[X] I agree. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Im Auftrag von Helpdesk Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. September 2002 18:54 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More encoded spam on 9/5/02 9:23 PM, Madscientist wrote:

[Declude.JunkMail] Null Senders (Kind of OT)

2002-09-11 Thread Corey Travioli
Hello, Recently, Texas AM University decided to institute some method for checking to see if the sending mail server accepts mail from a null sender. We set-up our Imail server to not accept null senders. I know, I know, it's a violation of RFC but it seems to me that this RFC is archaic and

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Null Senders (Kind of OT)

2002-09-11 Thread R. Scott Perry
Recently, Texas AM University decided to institute some method for checking to see if the sending mail server accepts mail from a null sender. Ouch. :) Have you gotten listed in http://www.rfc-ignorant.org yet? We set-up our Imail server to not accept null senders. I know, I know, it's a

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Null Senders (Kind of OT)

2002-09-11 Thread Sheldon Koehler
Is there any way to get an RFC repealed? I personally would like to see an RFC instituted that makes sending mail from a null sender a violation of RFC. It ain't gonna happen! So you had better start accepting null senders or find yourself blacklisted at www.rfc-ignorant.org. And then things

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Blacklist is still failing

2002-09-11 Thread Doris Dean
Scott I believe I found the problem ... before I took over looking after the mail server, with all its quirks, I think a test version of an early junkmail was loaded ... I found another config and junkmail file in the imail root so I have a version of the config and junk files there and one in

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Null Senders (Kind of OT)

2002-09-11 Thread Mark Smith
FWIW, Exchange uses Null senders for their out of office notification and other rules/server side messages. If you turn that off in iMail you'll block these messages. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Sheldon Koehler Sent:

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Null Senders (Kind of OT)

2002-09-11 Thread Sheldon Koehler
Thanks for your replies. Good luck! Sheldon Sheldon Koehler, Owner/Partnerhttp://www.tenforward.com Ten Forward Communications 360-457-9023 Nationwide access, neighborhood support! Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect. Mark

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blacklist is still failing

2002-09-11 Thread Bill Landry
Declude.exe should be in the IMail root and the config files in the IMail\Declude directory. Bill -Original Message- From: Doris Dean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 1:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Blacklist is still failing

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Blacklist is still failing

2002-09-11 Thread R. Scott Perry
Scott I believe I found the problem ... before I took over looking after the mail server, with all its quirks, I think a test version of an early junkmail was loaded ... I found another config and junkmail file in the imail root so I have a version of the config and junk files there and one in

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More encoded spam

2002-09-11 Thread R. Scott Perry
All this is good I guess. Until we come up with some good examples of legitimate messages with text/html base64 then we won't completely settle the issue. It does seem that the evidence so far is strongly in favor of a spam/no-spam test for base64 encoded html. Any news on this front?

[Declude.JunkMail] Timed weight?

2002-09-11 Thread Gufler Markus
Hi Scott, Only a suggestion, maybe I'm wrong: Can it be usefull to give a few points for messages delivered in a certain time range?(for example between 10.00 pm and 05.00 am) A great part of the messages delivered in this time range are spam. The problem is that there are also newsletter and

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Timed weight?

2002-09-11 Thread R. Scott Perry
Only a suggestion, maybe I'm wrong: Can it be usefull to give a few points for messages delivered in a certain time range?(for example between 10.00 pm and 05.00 am) That is a good idea, and something that we have been giving some thought to. It would likely only be beneficial to a small

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Timed weight?

2002-09-11 Thread Madscientist
Now there's a sophisticated element to the test. You could key the time to the geographic region of the sender's IP range. Not much more work (since it's generally hard-coded) but makes the test useful for determining the time of day at the sender's location -- in theory anyway. Thoughts? _M

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Timed weight?

2002-09-11 Thread John Tolmachoff
Now there's a sophisticated element to the test. You could key the time to the geographic region of the sender's IP range. Not much more work (since it's generally hard-coded) but makes the test useful for determining the time of day at the sender's location -- in theory anyway. Now that sounds