[Declude.JunkMail] Befuddled: Test not logged!

2004-03-19 Thread Andy Schmidt
Title: Message Hi Scott: I know you are busy with viruses - but I can't figure THIS one out. I have thousands of emails in the log file, where SORBS-DUHL is discovered, logged and treated properly. But at least this ONE got through and I have no explanation. Firstlet's look at a mail 10

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Befuddled: Test not logged!

2004-03-19 Thread R. Scott Perry
I know you are busy with viruses - but I can't figure THIS one out. I have thousands of emails in the log file, where SORBS-DUHL is discovered, logged and treated properly. But at least this ONE got through and I have no explanation. The issue here isn't that the test wasn't logged -- Declude

[Declude.JunkMail] SPFPASS (Junk)

2004-03-19 Thread Frederick Samarelli
What do we do when we find Junkmail passing the SPF Test. Is there a place to report it. Fred --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL

[Declude.JunkMail] Detecting disguised url's in headers

2004-03-19 Thread Harry Vanderzand
IE this url: //205.159.%372.%32%30/mort/ obviously gets translated and I could do so also. It would take a lot of extra time. I copy the url out of headers of spam that gets through and put it into my filter file. These are bothersome however. Is there a way that we could just mark these kind

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Detecting disguised url's in headers

2004-03-19 Thread Harry Vanderzand
Where is this set in imail? Is it antispam of imail as we do not use it. Harry Vanderzand inTown Internet Computer Services 11 Belmont Ave. W. Kitchener, ON N2M 1L2 519-741-1222 Did you know we offer: - Province wide dial-up and high speed internet access - Web accessible email with

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Detecting disguised url's in headers

2004-03-19 Thread Jason
It is a rule. They are located in a rules.ima (inbound rules file). The rules.ima file gets placed in the top directory of the domain that you want to use it on. There is lots of data about this in the knowledge base on Imails web site. Regards, Jason -Original Message- From:

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Detecting disguised url's in headers

2004-03-19 Thread Harry Vanderzand
I am not sure if my request here is being understood. I would not want to mark all messages with an IP in the url as spam. Only those messages that use %nnn%nnn%nnn etc. When you view source of an html message you can see this kind of coding. As in this case: //205.159.%372.%32%30/mort/ We

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Detecting disguised url's in headers

2004-03-19 Thread Jason
Well, let us ask the entire list if there are valid reasons that people would send an IP in a URL. I tested this for 2 months and didn't have a single legitimate e-mail like this. We did have people sending IP addresses, but not as a url. For example: My server IP is 156.23.140.10. Not one

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPFPASS (Junk)

2004-03-19 Thread Frederick Samarelli
This is the offending header. Received: from mail13.americanfamilydeals.com ([69.56.11.46]) by DNS2.tcbinc.net (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004031909522726515 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 19 Mar 2004 09:52:29 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 08:52:30 -0600 (CST)

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPFPASS (Junk)

2004-03-19 Thread Matt
So zombie spamers forge Habeas, and ROKSO spammers give themselves SPF records. Not a surprise. You can't stop them from doing this, so I might suggest not crediting any points to those that pass. Matt Frederick Samarelli wrote: This is the offending header. Received: from

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPFPASS (Junk)

2004-03-19 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Title: Message Makes perfect sense to me. Everyone, including ROKSO spammers, can benefit from implementing SPF defensively, resulting in a valid SPFPASS. And *their* doing so dilutes the incentive for antispammers to reward those who implement SPF defensively, which in turn dilutes SPF.

RE: inSPAM:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Detecting disguised url's in he aders

2004-03-19 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Well, assuming that you have Declude JunkMail Pro and thus text filtering features available, yes. See: http://www.mailpure.com/software/decludefilters/ for the IPFilter tests which would give you a very good example to get you started. However, I think that: a) You don't need to,

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPFPASS (Junk)

2004-03-19 Thread Bill Landry
I have to agree with Matt. I am starting to see quite a few spam messages from the same spammer that has now implemented SPF for the following three domains: yfdvdsmail.com freefamilydeals.com americanfamilydeals.com I primarily now use SPF for adding negative weight for SPF fails. Bill -

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPFPASS (Junk)

2004-03-19 Thread Kevin Bilbee
I am against subtracting points from and email based on an exturnal test. We only add weight unless we are counterweighting a known issue with valid email. Kevin Bilbee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Landry Sent: Friday, March 19,

Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] SPFPASS (Junk)

2004-03-19 Thread Sanford Whiteman
As noted in the last 2 weeks, current wisdom is to add points to those senders that trigger a SPFFAIL, and that rewarding a SPFPASS or SPFUNKNOWN will reveal no joy. I've never done anything but penalize SPF FAIL. It's pretty common knowledge, as you say. --Sandy

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Detecting disguised url's in headers

2004-03-19 Thread Pete McNeil
Watch out for this rule. There will be false positives. We've tried it long ago in sniffer. It turns out that there are quite a few legit messages sent with numbered links in them... so now we only code rules for specific numbered links (or stubs of them anyway). You might try rules for