RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Global configs (= SORBS results)

2004-06-30 Thread Markus Gufler
Title: Message I have some other numbers. For example SORBS-HTTP Yesterday it has had the correct result for 7% of the processed messages (776 of 11161 messages) But it has also had a positive (wrong) result for 17 legit messages. (so one of this messages was slightly above our hold

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Syntax for spf

2004-06-30 Thread Sharyn Schmidt
Title: RE: Syntax for spf --- To use the new SPF test, you can add lines such as: SPFPASS spf pass x -5 0 SPFFAIL spf fail x 8 0 to your global.cfg file. SPF returns PASS for E-mail that passes SPF (that comes from an IP that is acceptable to the owner of the domani that it claims to

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Global configs (= SORBS results)

2004-06-30 Thread Matt
Markus, Their open relay tests, SORBS-HTTP, SORBS-SOCKS and SORBS-SMTP can all hit on the same message for the same exploit causing a triple hit and therefore it is best to combo these tests with a custom filter. Throwing in SORBS-MISC into this mix might also be a good idea. The problem

[Declude.JunkMail] FW: You **MAY** have spam

2004-06-30 Thread Sharyn Schmidt
sigh This is legit, coming from my own mailserver, and it failed the SPF test. Obviously something is not correct here. Any suggestions? I have used the wizard on the pobox site and pasted the text string into a text record in my DNS. I've had to disable the test for now as all my legit mail

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Syntax for spf

2004-06-30 Thread R. Scott Perry
SPFPASS spf passx -5 0 SPFFAIL spf failx 8 0 I've just added the above lines to my global config. After checking the Declude log, I see no indication that Declude is performing this test. What am I missing? You'll only see E-mails pass or fail if they

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] FW: You **MAY** have spam

2004-06-30 Thread R. Scott Perry
This is legit, coming from my own mailserver, and it failed the SPF test. Obviously something is not correct here. Any suggestions? I have used the wizard on the pobox site and pasted the text string into a text record in my DNS. The problem is that your SPF record (v=spf1 a mx ptr -all) doesn't

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Global configs (= SORBS results)

2004-06-30 Thread Andy Schmidt
Title: Message Hi, Using a filter, I combinethe different blacklists from various sources into distinct groups: Proxies Open-Relay DUL/DUHL Each group has a weight assigned. This way, I can use the combined know-how of multiple sources whether an IP is a Proxy and/or an open-relay and/or

Re: FW: [Declude.JunkMail] FW: You **MAY** have spam

2004-06-30 Thread Matt
I believe that both CMDSPACE and SPF are inappropriate tests to score unless you can whitelist your own local users that connect directly to your server to send E-mail. If you have IMail 7 and your users are on IP space that you don't control, you are out of luck, but if you have either IMail

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] FW: You **MAY** have spam

2004-06-30 Thread Sharyn Schmidt
The problem is that your SPF record (v=spf1 a mx ptr -all) doesn't list IPs that your users may be connecting to your mailserver from. The problem may also be that ID 10 T error and I never listed the IP of my firewall, which uses an SMTP proxy. (Len is laughing if he is reading this) In

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] FW: You **MAY** have spam

2004-06-30 Thread Sharyn Schmidt
Ok.. Does this mean things are working now? I just ran the test on Scott's website... SPF lookup of sender [EMAIL PROTECTED] from IP 24.73.160.162: SPF string used: v=spf1 ip4:24.73.160.162 a mx ptr -all. Processing SPF string: v=spf1 ip4:24.73.160.162 a mx ptr -all. Testing

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] FW: You **MAY** have spam

2004-06-30 Thread Sharyn Schmidt
I lowered the weight of the spf fail weight to 1 (warn in headers) to test this internally. My internal IPs are still failing the spf test. How do I go about whitelisting 5 subnets of internal IP addresses with IMAIL 7.15? It's probably not a bad idea anyway, if it's possible, as everything

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] FW: You **MAY** have spam

2004-06-30 Thread Matt
Sharyn Schmidt wrote: I control all the IPS my users are on, it's a local LAN...192.168.x.x (there are 5 different subnets) but my mail server is on a DMZ off the firewall, and I have an smtp proxy enabled. This would indicate that in reality, it's the IP address of the firewall that is actually

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] WAY WAY OT: Attn Greg Foulks

2004-06-30 Thread Greg Foulks
John, Thanks for the email this helped to find the problem. Your emails were being zapped because it was failing a mailfrom test (which right now I have no idea why it failed the mailfrom test because your address is not even listed in the file.) 06/29/2004 15:17:09 Qc01a098 SPammers:100

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] external tests

2004-06-30 Thread Scott Fisher
Any chance of getting an option to run an external test last after the filters? I have some tests that I want to run first. Maybe externallast? I was brainstorming that if I had an external test to run the troublemaker e-mails that don't score high or low (4% of total e-mail) through the

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] external tests

2004-06-30 Thread R. Scott Perry
Any chance of getting an option to run an external test last after the filters? I have some tests that I want to run first. Maybe externallast? It's something we will look into, but I'm guessing that we won't be able to add such a feature in the near future.

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Global configs (= SORBS results)

2004-06-30 Thread Scott Fisher
I use sorbs-http with a last hop and a all hop configuartion. For June, the -ALL hit on 48 non-spam e-mails the -LAST hit on 27 non-spam e-mails. SORBS-HTTP-LAST dnsbl %IP4R%.dnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.2 0 0 SORBS-HTTP-ALL ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Syntax for spf

2004-06-30 Thread Scott Fisher
To put numbers behind Scott's statement. For June 1% of all e-mail triggered SPFPASS and 1.4% of all e-mail triggered SPFFAIL To confuse the issue somewhat: 26% of the e-mail that triggered SPFPASS was classified as SPAM 3% of the e-mail that triggered SPFFAIL was classified as SPAM Scott Fisher

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] FW: You **MAY** have spam

2004-06-30 Thread Sharyn Schmidt
Chances are that you need to IPBYPASS the firewall's IP in your global.cfg and then whitelist your LAN by it's IP space. Do I have to list each individual address separately (will put it at over 200 addresses so this won't work) or can I use a /24 notation for each subnet block? Sharyn We

[Declude.JunkMail] Question on SPF Setup. Was under You **May** etc

2004-06-30 Thread Grant Griffith - Declude JM
This brings up a good point, if I client is located in another part of the US and we have no way to know what IP Address they might be using. How can this be setup? For example, our server has around 16 IP's, 12.177.8.48 to 12.177.8.63, but we have clients that will not be connected within this

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Question on SPF Setup. Was under You **May** etc

2004-06-30 Thread R. Scott Perry
This brings up a good point, if I client is located in another part of the US and we have no way to know what IP Address they might be using. How can this be setup? For example, our server has around 16 IP's, 12.177.8.48 to 12.177.8.63, but we have clients that will not be connected within this

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Question on SPF Setup. Was under You **May** etc **May** etc

2004-06-30 Thread Grant Griffith - Declude JM
Figures we would have to upgrade. We are at 7.1x as it has been very stable. Not sure we want to upgrade to problems. If someone sends an email and it shows up on our server as a 64. address. What about when the message is delivered to someone at AOL? Will it also see the 64. address,

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] FW: You **MAY** have spam

2004-06-30 Thread Matt
CIDR ranges do work. I believe the manual contains examples of this. For example: IPBYPASS24.73.160.162 WHITELISTIP 192.168.0.1/24 Just to be clear on the conditions present, the whitelisting won't work if you have users that connect directly (or through your

[Declude.JunkMail] Spam Bounty Hunters...?

2004-06-30 Thread Jason @ AreaTech
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5326107/ --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Question on SPF Setup. Was under You **May** etc **May** etc

2004-06-30 Thread R. Scott Perry
If someone sends an email and it shows up on our server as a 64. address. What about when the message is delivered to someone at AOL? Will it also see the 64. address, therefore fail the SPF test on their end also? No. AOL will only see the IP address of your server, and use that for

[Declude.JunkMail] DLAnalyzer 3.0 Released (New Free Version Available)

2004-06-30 Thread DLAnalyzer Support
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Question on SPF Setup. Was under You **May** etc **May** etc

2004-06-30 Thread R. Scott Perry
Sorry to butt in on this one...Yes, SPF would fail on other systems as well in that situation. If the client connects directly to AOL, SPF would fail. But if it is sent through the mailserver, it should not fail. As far as I can tell, SPF-PASS is not useful because there is nothing stopping

[Declude.JunkMail] Logging order

2004-06-30 Thread Michael Graveen
I'm Sorry if this is a question that's already been answered (I couldn't find anything in the archives). If an email is tagged as SPAM in Declude Junkmail, is it still entered in IMail's log file (log.txt)as being received? Does IMail get the email and pass it to Declude, or does Declude

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Question on SPF Setup. Was under You **May** etc **May** etc

2004-06-30 Thread Matt
R. Scott Perry wrote: In this case, what you should do is use v=spf1 mx ?all. That says If the E-mail is coming from an IP in our MX record, we authorize it. If it is coming from any other IP, we can't say whether or not it is legitimate -- treat it the same as if we have no SPF record. In

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Question on SPF Setup. Was under You **May** etc **May** etc

2004-06-30 Thread Darin Cox
I agree that SPF is not very useful in the situation Matt outlined. We're in the same boat with users that may use their ISP or us to send mail from their domain. While SPF attempts to handle it through a switch that references other providers' SPF records, It's just not practical to list all

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Logging order

2004-06-30 Thread R. Scott Perry
I'm Sorry if this is a question that's already been answered (I couldn't find anything in the archives). If an email is tagged as SPAM in Declude Junkmail, is it still entered in IMail's log file (log.txt)as being received? Does IMail get the email and pass it to Declude, or does Declude

[Declude.JunkMail] logfile naming

2004-06-30 Thread Roderick A. Anderson
The docs say a in the filename used with LOGFILE will be replaced with the month and day. Is there a way to get the year -- four (preferred) or two digit -- included? TIA, Rod -- Roderick A. Anderson Technology Services Management Group http://www.technologyservicesmanagementgroup.com/

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] logfile naming

2004-06-30 Thread Mike Leonard
The docs say a in the filename used with LOGFILE will be replaced with the month and day. Is there a way to get the year -- four (preferred) or two digit -- included? You could use something like: LOGFILE spool\dec2004.log That way, you'd only have to remember to change

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] logfile naming

2004-06-30 Thread R. Scott Perry
The docs say a in the filename used with LOGFILE will be replaced with the month and day. Is there a way to get the year -- four (preferred) or two digit -- included? Unfortunately, there is no way to get the year in there. Although if you are creative, it might be possible to use a batch

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] logfile naming

2004-06-30 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
The docs say a in the filename used with LOGFILE will be replaced with the month and day. Is there a way to get the year -- four (preferred) or two digit -- included? You could use something like: LOGFILE spool\dec2004.log But then he would have to remember to

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] logfile naming

2004-06-30 Thread Roderick A. Anderson
You could use something like: LOGFILE spool\dec2004.log I was hoping to avoid a kludge like this. Coming from a UNIX background I don't like to manually do tasks that should be automatic (or automagical :-) and easy. I'm getting pretty good at writing scripts that run from

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] logfile naming

2004-06-30 Thread smb
Having done this (rename, move, zip) the Declude logfiles the tricky part is dealing with the rollover of the logfile at midnight and at the end each month. Stu At 04:10 PM 06/30/2004 -0700, you wrote: You could use something like: LOGFILE spool\dec2004.log I was hoping to