I think what he means is serverA is doing the scanning and then the message
is sent to serverB and he wants serverB to know what the score was and to
take action.
Why not add a custom header line with the total weight via Declude and then
set up the rules on serverB to look for that line in the
Here is a weird
one.
My static ip here in
my office is: 80.33.86.200
I was checking my
logs to see the following log file in the declude log..
07/28/2006 14:04:11.521 qfd300e9500a0308c.smd Msg
failed FIVETEN-SRC (200.86.33.80.blackholes.five-ten-sg.com.).
Action="">
then when I
Hi David,
It kind of works.
In C:\IMAIL\Declude\$default$.junkmail I have placed the following line:
WHITELISTFILEC:\IMAIL\Declude\Filters\whitelist.txt
The file at C:\IMAIL\Declude\Filters\whitelist.txt contains a list of email
addresses in the following format:
@123-reg.co.uk
Craig,
IP4R look-ups always reverese the IP. Thats just the way they work.
Darrell
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1. Sorry, your email was not considered
confidential and has been included in a public archive for all to see.
2. As I said before, please stop using
the silly white listing of a domain. Havent you heard of forged
addresses?
3. Please review your configuration and
correct the problem
Thanks John, but Authentication is not an option right
now and I will suffer the few forged addresses that come
through.
I did not realise that
there was a limit to the amount of domains I can put in the whitelist and its
worked until now whilst testing it with a few domains but with a
The problem as I see it (and no your
email was again not considered confidential) is that you are spending time
trying to configure a work around but not fixing the problem.
If you already know that the IP for domainA
is blacklisted for problems, why would you want to whitelist it?
Craig,
Do you have an example of a header that was not whitelisted
?
David
B
www.declude.com
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig EdmondsSent:
Friday, July 28, 2006 11:15 AMTo:
declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Max
whitelists
Maybe you dont really want to
whitelist
What we do here is use a FROMFILE, and assign
a large negative point value to all domains or individuals on that list. We
still suffer with forged return addresses, but thats fairly minimal.
It tends to work a little bit better then
HI John,
The client using domainA.com is on a dynamic IP where
he is sending from and the mail gets scored on our mail server when it hits
declude becasue the IP where he is located is blacklisted, not the
domainname itself.
When that happens, domainB.com does not receive the
email.
Both
this is what we do for those valid mailing lists that get blocked from time
to time...we just add those individual addresses requested by our customers
to this list as well; if forgery becomes a problem, then we alert the
customer that made the addition request and remove the address; the customer
Is it a subdomains problem?
Do you need .123-reg.co.uk?
- Original Message -
From:
Craig
Edmonds
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 7:28 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Max
whitelists hit
Hi David,It kind of works.In
I can confirm this is the only way it will work. Declude communicates
the score directly to SmarterMail in a way that breaks when a message
has been relayed from a gateway server. In such instances, it's
necessary to setup SmarterMail content filter rules based up your
Declude inserted headers
It would be nice if SmarterTools would introduce a simple scoreable
text filter that could search at least the headers. That way a score
could be passed from any gateway to SmarterMail for actions.
Matt
Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC wrote:
I can confirm this is the only way it will
If you are not authenticating your users then your SMTP server
is open for spammers to forge the “from” address to relay through your server!
Unless you only allow relaying from specific ip addresses. “Relay for local users
only” is a great way for spammers to hijack your server.
“Relay
Yes, I realise that, and am fully aware on the methods
to lock down the mail server but there are very good logistaical reasons why I
can implement that at the moment, so this is not the issue or the
solution for me at the moment.
I plan to implement SMTP AUTHin the near future,
BUT, the
There would have to be a way to secure something like this. If
it can be added by a gateway what would stop a spammer form adding it with a -1
weight???
Kevin Bilbee
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 10:27 AM
SmarterMail content filters can
easily search headers I have been doing this for weeks without issue.
Thanks!
-
Jay Sudowski // Handy Networks LLC
Director
of Technical Operations
Providing Shared, Reseller, Semi Managed and Fully Managed Windows 2003 Hosting
Solutions
Tel:
Not necessarily. I was talking about a simple non-proprietary text
filtering mechanism, and everyone could set it to be whatever they
wanted. One could then pass a spam level code and add points within
SmarterMail based on the presence of that code. If this was the only
scoreable filter in
That's content filters and not their anti-spam stuff. There is a host
of anti-spam stuff in SmarterMail that is exposed to both domain admins
and individual users that could only be fully functional with such a
thing. If you want to side-step the whole anti-spam thing, then you
certainly can
The problem is we have over 10,000 webmail users.
Teaching them to setup filters is not easy. Theyre used to seeing the
integrated SmarterMail SPAM filtering options.
I think Matt has a good idea. A very simple
lightweight filter than runs on the SmarterMail server. It would look at
Blacklisting by IP address/IP range using the
IPFILE option would be a more preferred way to blacklist.
I haven't found an upper limitin the IPFILE,
as I have 2050 lines in mine. This might not be the most efficient way, and
could be killing CPU cycles. I probably should setup an internal
I use custom DNS zones for both blacklisting and whitelisting since it
is just about as scalable as you can get. If performance isn't an
issue, the Declude filters will do just fine.
Matt
Scott Fisher wrote:
Blacklisting by IP address/IP range
using the IPFILE option would be
Question does anyone know of how SmarterMail processes messages.
A program could be created that could process mail based on the “Command-line
file to run on new mail” if Declude runs before the command line program then this
could read the Declude gateway inserted header then add the
Kevin,
Declude running with SmarterMail does integrate into the SmarterMail
spam blocking configuration so that isn't an issue. For a gateway
though, this solution would in fact seem to be a reasonably good
solution, and it wouldn't be that difficult to do.
Matt
Kevin Bilbee wrote:
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