Re: [Declude.JunkMail] False Positives v. Uncaught Spam for Various Tests Various Tests

2003-12-19 Thread Burzin Sumariwalla
Thanks for pointing me to the right place. Burzin At 05:51 PM 12/18/2003, you wrote: 1. Does anyone have stats. on false positives v. uncaught spam for various tests. Am I correct in understanding that tests with ratios closer to zero are more accurate? Right now, I believe the best source

[Declude.JunkMail] False Positives v. Uncaught Spam for Various Tests

2003-12-18 Thread Burzin Sumariwalla
Hello, 1. Does anyone have stats. on false positives v. uncaught spam for various tests. Am I correct in understanding that tests with ratios closer to zero are more accurate? 2. Can someone point me to Scott's November Spam Statistics post. I couldn't find it in the Declude archive.

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] False Positives v. Uncaught Spam for Various Tests

2003-12-18 Thread R. Scott Perry
1. Does anyone have stats. on false positives v. uncaught spam for various tests. Am I correct in understanding that tests with ratios closer to zero are more accurate? Right now, I believe the best source is: 2. Can someone point me to Scott's November Spam Statistics post. I couldn't

[Declude.JunkMail] false positives

2003-10-13 Thread Andy
Hi, I'm getting a lot of false positives because of HELOBOGUS and MAILFROM issues. I know there probably has been discussion here about this already. Is there a resolution? How do I get around this? I'm catching email from AOL, Roadrunner, Adelphia, etc. See below. Thanks, andy

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] false positives

2003-10-13 Thread R. Scott Perry
I'm getting a lot of false positives because of HELOBOGUS and MAILFROM issues. If you are running v1.76, you should download the latest interim release from http://www.declude.com/release/176i/declude.exe . This is happening as one of the many side-effects of bad old Verisign's attempt to

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] false positives

2003-10-13 Thread andyb
of the product make it all work it. Greatly appreciated. Thanks, Andy - Original Message - From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] false positives I'm getting a lot of false positives because

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] false positives

2003-10-13 Thread R. Scott Perry
Wow, that changes a lot. I knew something was going on with Verisign. Is there a technical description somewhere of what they did so I can catch up? Actually, they got threatened by ICANN and sued by other companies, and finally gave up. So DNS is back the way it should, albeit with minor

[Declude.JunkMail] False Positives

2003-07-11 Thread Douglas Brantley
New to list... We are considering purchasing Declude Junkmail. I am concerned about false positives the time required to deal with them. Of those of currently runing Declude Junkmail, what is your rate of false postives and how do you

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] False Positives

2003-07-11 Thread Kami Razvan
: Friday, July 11, 2003 12:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] False Positives -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Brantley Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 12:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] False

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] False Positives

2003-07-11 Thread paul
I am concerned about false positives the time required to deal with them. Of those of currently runing Declude Junkmail, what is your rate of false postives and how do you best manage the false postives? For BEST results, get the PRO version. Everyone waging this spam fight is concerned

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] False Positives

2003-07-11 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kami Razvan Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 10:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] False Positives Hi db: If you are concerned about false positives I strongly strongly suggest you look at this product as an add-on to Declude

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] False Positives

2003-07-11 Thread Dan Patnode
When I checked last month I was doing about 1 in 20,000 (.005%), but this takes some fairly sophisticated tuning. Dan On Friday, July 11, 2003 9:18, Douglas Brantley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: New to list... We are considering purchasing Declude Junkmail. I am concerned

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] false positives

2002-12-04 Thread Ron Harris
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [Declude.JunkMail] false positives I route e-mail which fail my several tests to another mailbox using the ROUTETO command in the $default$.junkmail file. I have been sifting through these messages looking for false positives and I would like to know the easiest

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] false positives

2002-12-04 Thread R. Scott Perry
I use the ROUTETO command and I view them through web messaging. Should I view them another way? That's up to you -- using the ROUTETO action, they are treated as regular E-mail, and the methods of handling them are based solely on the type of mail client you are using. Since I have been

[Declude.JunkMail] false positives

2002-11-22 Thread Ron Harris
I route e-mail which fail my several tests to another mailbox using the ROUTETO command in the $default$.junkmail file. I have been sifting through these messages looking for false positives and I would like to know the easiest way (or preferred method) of sending the false positives to the

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] false positives

2002-11-22 Thread John Tolmachoff
Any recommendations? I have been using Spam Review for about a week now. It is listed on the Declude site. It is a program that allows you to see the headers, subject line and body. Buttons at the top to choose what you want to do, including return to queue, which would cause the message to

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] false positives

2002-11-22 Thread R. Scott Perry
I route e-mail which fail my several tests to another mailbox using the ROUTETO command in the $default$.junkmail file. I have been sifting through these messages looking for false positives and I would like to know the easiest way (or preferred method) of sending the false positives to the

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] false positives

2002-11-22 Thread Patrick Childers
I route e-mail which fail my several tests to another mailbox using the ROUTETO command in the $default$.junkmail file. I have been sifting through these messages looking for false positives and I would like to know the easiest way (or preferred method) of sending the false positives to the

DSN:Re: [Declude.JunkMail] False positives for Spamheaders

2002-05-26 Thread David
In the case of SPAMHEADERS, that test will fail on E-mail that has legal headers (but ones which are common in spam and rarely ever seen with legitimate mail clients). The most common problem is that the web programmers don't add a Message-ID: header -- the RFCs require that they have one,

Re: DSN:Re: [Declude.JunkMail] False positives for Spamheaders

2002-05-26 Thread David
We're getting SPAMHEADERS failing that have a Message-ID: header, like this; Message-Id: 200205220850921.SM01366@shared1 Is there something wrong with this Message-Id: header, or is this failing for some other reason? We also get a lot of BADHEADERS failures on email we programmatically

Re: DSN:Re: [Declude.JunkMail] False positives for Spamheaders

2002-05-26 Thread R. Scott Perry
We're getting SPAMHEADERS failing that have a Message-ID: header, like this; Message-Id: 200205220850921.SM01366@shared1 Is there something wrong with this Message-Id: header, or is this failing for some other reason? There are a lot of other reasons that the E-mail could fail the SPAMHEADERS

[Declude.JunkMail] False positives for Spamheaders

2002-05-23 Thread Dale McDiarmid
Hello... Installed JunkMail last week and I'm getting some interesting spamheader false positives. Some of the more interesting ones are newsletters from: ORACLE, SOPHOS, and SYMANTEC! I must trigger for Spamheaders since there are far too many real spam messages failing only the Spamheader

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] False positives for Spamheaders

2002-05-23 Thread R. Scott Perry
Installed JunkMail last week and I'm getting some interesting spamheader false positives. Some of the more interesting ones are newsletters from: ORACLE, SOPHOS, and SYMANTEC! Unfortunately, a lot of web mailers are thrown together (the boss thinks that their web programmer is a programmer,

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] False positives for Spamheaders

2002-05-23 Thread Eje Gustafsson
If anyone would understand that then well world be so much easier. Get it when someone like microsoft don't support postmaster and abuse.. Their mailservers don't have any rev dns configured and to boot has invalid headers (this was what I saw on a MSN passport lost password requests that got

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] False positives for Spamheaders

2002-05-23 Thread Dale McDiarmid
Yup. I doubt I'll ever do any deleting. Except for one president who insists I HOLD for him (damn the torpedoes, boy!), everyone else gets SUBJECT for everything except Badheaders and Routing, which I wait to see if they Weight10 from any other failure before they get SUBJECT. That MS info is

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] False positives for Spamheaders

2002-05-23 Thread Mark Smith
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dale McDiarmid Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 10:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] False positives for Spamheaders Yup. I doubt I'll ever do any deleting. Except for one president who insists I HOLD for him

[Declude.JunkMail] false positives

2002-03-11 Thread Susan Duncan
I'm new to Declude and have been roadtesting the software to see what gets flagged and what does not. I've been getting a lot of false positives on 'BADHEADER' and 'SPAMHEADERS', mainly from various email lists that we subscribe to. Is this normal? When it comes to the subscription services,

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] false positives

2002-03-11 Thread R. Scott Perry
I'm including the headers from one message that has been flagged as having bad headers. It's actually being sent from one of our servers using WebBoard. Received: from susan [206.191.24.134] by sirc.ca (SMTPD32-7.05) id A2FD9CF70106; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 13:10:05 -0500 To: (Recipients of 'news'

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] false positives

2002-03-11 Thread Joshua Levitsky
Message-Id: doesn't use FQDN... for one thing -Josh On Mon, 2002-03-11 at 13:21, Susan Duncan wrote: I'm including the headers from one message that has been flagged as having bad headers. It's actually being sent from one of our servers using WebBoard. Received: from susan