[Declude.JunkMail] PERCENT test confusion

2005-04-20 Thread Will
I'm trying to understand why my mail server is sending so many messages
to the quarantine folders instead of just marking the headers.  In fact,
the vast majority of my SPAM is going to the spool/spam folder since
updating all the declude rules.

The only test I have set to HOLD is the PERCENT test and when I look at
the messages being quarantined, none of them have a percent symbol in
the To: line.  Since there are so many messages failing this test, I am
concerned that there is legitimate content I am missing, though I have
yet to find one from the hundred thousand messages it caught just
yesterday.

Should I be concerned and does anyone have good insight about how the
PERCENT test works?  It seems too good to be true that such a simple
test would catch so much SPAM.

I'm running Imail 8.15 on 2003.  Below is a copy of my declude test
actions:

#  RBL IP4R TESTS OUTBOUND


BLITZEDALL  WARN
CBL WARN
DSBLWARN
ORDBWARN
MXRATE-ALLOWWARN
MXRATE-BLOCKWARN
MXRATE-SUSPICIOUS   WARN
SBL WARN
SORBS-HTTP  WARN
SORBS-SOCKS WARN
SORBS-MISC  WARN
SORBS-SMTP  WARN
SORBS-SPAM  WARN
SORBS-WEB   WARN
SORBS-BLOCK WARN
SORBS-ZOMBIEWARN
SORBS-DUHL  WARN
SPAMCOP WARN
BONDEDSENDERWARN

#  ADDITIONAL RBL IP4R TESTS
OUTBOUND 

#MTLDB  WARN
CSMA-SBLWARN
INTERSILWARN
SPAMBAG WARN
FIVETENSRC  WARN
JAMMDNSBL   WARN

#  RHBSL  TESTS OUTBOUND


DSN WARN
NOABUSE WARN
NOPOSTMASTERWARN

MAILPOLICE-BULK WARN
MAILPOLICE-PORN WARN
MAILPOLICE-FRAUDWARN

# OTHER  TESTS OUTBOUND


BADHEADERS  WARN
BASE64  WARN
BCC WARN
CMDSPACEWARN
COMMENTSWARN
DYNHELO WARN
ENCODEDURL  WARN
HELOBOGUS   WARN
IPURL   WARN
MAILFROMWARN
PERCENT HOLD
REVDNS  WARN
ROUTING WARN
SPAMHEADERS WARN
SPFFAIL WARN
SPFPASS WARN
SUBJECTSPACES   WARN
SUBJECTCHARSWARN

#NONENGLISH WARN

#  FILTERS OUTBOUND


#SUBJECTWARN
#WORD   WARN

#  3RD PARTY OUTBOUND


#SNIFFERWARN
#SPAMCHKWARN
#INV-URIBL  WARN

#   TRIGGERS OUTBOUND


WEIGHT10WARN
WEIGHT14WARN
WEIGHT20WARN

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] PERCENT test confusion

2005-04-20 Thread David Barker
Will,

Just to make sure, your Imail is passing on mail to another server and
therefore acting as a gateway that is why you are using OUTBOUND actions
correct?

David B
www.declude.com 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Will
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:22 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] PERCENT test confusion

I'm trying to understand why my mail server is sending so many messages to
the quarantine folders instead of just marking the headers.  In fact, the
vast majority of my SPAM is going to the spool/spam folder since updating
all the declude rules.

The only test I have set to HOLD is the PERCENT test and when I look at the
messages being quarantined, none of them have a percent symbol in the To:
line.  Since there are so many messages failing this test, I am concerned
that there is legitimate content I am missing, though I have yet to find one
from the hundred thousand messages it caught just yesterday.

Should I be concerned and does anyone have good insight about how the
PERCENT test works?  It seems too good to be true that such a simple test
would catch so much SPAM.

I'm running Imail 8.15 on 2003.  Below is a copy of my declude test
actions:

#  RBL IP4R TESTS OUTBOUND


BLITZEDALL  WARN
CBL WARN
DSBLWARN
ORDBWARN
MXRATE-ALLOWWARN
MXRATE-BLOCKWARN
MXRATE-SUSPICIOUS   WARN
SBL WARN
SORBS-HTTP  WARN
SORBS-SOCKS WARN
SORBS-MISC  WARN
SORBS-SMTP  WARN
SORBS-SPAM  WARN
SORBS-WEB   WARN
SORBS-BLOCK WARN
SORBS-ZOMBIEWARN
SORBS-DUHL  WARN
SPAMCOP WARN
BONDEDSENDERWARN

#  ADDITIONAL RBL IP4R TESTS OUTBOUND


#MTLDB  WARN
CSMA-SBLWARN
INTERSILWARN
SPAMBAG WARN
FIVETENSRC  WARN
JAMMDNSBL   WARN

#  RHBSL  TESTS OUTBOUND


DSN WARN
NOABUSE WARN
NOPOSTMASTERWARN

MAILPOLICE-BULK WARN
MAILPOLICE-PORN WARN
MAILPOLICE-FRAUDWARN

# OTHER  TESTS OUTBOUND


BADHEADERS  WARN
BASE64  WARN
BCC WARN
CMDSPACEWARN
COMMENTSWARN
DYNHELO WARN
ENCODEDURL  WARN
HELOBOGUS   WARN
IPURL   WARN
MAILFROMWARN
PERCENT HOLD
REVDNS  WARN
ROUTING WARN
SPAMHEADERS WARN
SPFFAIL WARN
SPFPASS WARN
SUBJECTSPACES   WARN
SUBJECTCHARSWARN

#NONENGLISH WARN

#  FILTERS OUTBOUND


#SUBJECTWARN
#WORD   WARN

#  3RD PARTY OUTBOUND


#SNIFFERWARN
#SPAMCHKWARN
#INV-URIBL  WARN

#   TRIGGERS OUTBOUND


WEIGHT10WARN
WEIGHT14WARN
WEIGHT20WARN

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] PERCENT test confusion

2005-04-20 Thread Will
Gah!  No, I'm not scanning outbound...  My mistake, I wasn't even
looking at the $default$.junkmail config file.  Now it all makes sense.
:)  

Thanks for the kick.


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 8:29 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] PERCENT test confusion

Will,

Just to make sure, your Imail is passing on mail to another server and
therefore acting as a gateway that is why you are using OUTBOUND actions
correct?

David B
www.declude.com 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Will
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:22 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] PERCENT test confusion

I'm trying to understand why my mail server is sending so many messages
to
the quarantine folders instead of just marking the headers.  In fact,
the
vast majority of my SPAM is going to the spool/spam folder since
updating
all the declude rules.

The only test I have set to HOLD is the PERCENT test and when I look at
the
messages being quarantined, none of them have a percent symbol in the
To:
line.  Since there are so many messages failing this test, I am
concerned
that there is legitimate content I am missing, though I have yet to find
one
from the hundred thousand messages it caught just yesterday.

Should I be concerned and does anyone have good insight about how the
PERCENT test works?  It seems too good to be true that such a simple
test
would catch so much SPAM.

I'm running Imail 8.15 on 2003.  Below is a copy of my declude test
actions:

#  RBL IP4R TESTS OUTBOUND


BLITZEDALL  WARN
CBL WARN
DSBLWARN
ORDBWARN
MXRATE-ALLOWWARN
MXRATE-BLOCKWARN
MXRATE-SUSPICIOUS   WARN
SBL WARN
SORBS-HTTP  WARN
SORBS-SOCKS WARN
SORBS-MISC  WARN
SORBS-SMTP  WARN
SORBS-SPAM  WARN
SORBS-WEB   WARN
SORBS-BLOCK WARN
SORBS-ZOMBIEWARN
SORBS-DUHL  WARN
SPAMCOP WARN
BONDEDSENDERWARN

#  ADDITIONAL RBL IP4R TESTS
OUTBOUND


#MTLDB  WARN
CSMA-SBLWARN
INTERSILWARN
SPAMBAG WARN
FIVETENSRC  WARN
JAMMDNSBL   WARN

#  RHBSL  TESTS OUTBOUND


DSN WARN
NOABUSE WARN
NOPOSTMASTERWARN

MAILPOLICE-BULK WARN
MAILPOLICE-PORN WARN
MAILPOLICE-FRAUDWARN

# OTHER  TESTS OUTBOUND


BADHEADERS  WARN
BASE64  WARN
BCC WARN
CMDSPACEWARN
COMMENTSWARN
DYNHELO WARN
ENCODEDURL  WARN
HELOBOGUS   WARN
IPURL   WARN
MAILFROMWARN
PERCENT HOLD
REVDNS  WARN
ROUTING WARN
SPAMHEADERS WARN
SPFFAIL WARN
SPFPASS WARN
SUBJECTSPACES   WARN
SUBJECTCHARSWARN

#NONENGLISH WARN

#  FILTERS OUTBOUND


#SUBJECTWARN
#WORD   WARN

#  3RD PARTY OUTBOUND


#SNIFFERWARN
#SPAMCHKWARN
#INV-URIBL  WARN

#   TRIGGERS OUTBOUND


WEIGHT10WARN
WEIGHT14WARN
WEIGHT20WARN

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[Declude.JunkMail] New Spam or Virus????!!

2005-04-20 Thread Chuck Schick
Starting to see messages that have a zip attachement with the format 5.zip
or 7.zip  - I do not know if it is spam or a virus.  Anyone else seeing
this?  Virus scanner is not catching it so I do not know if it is a virus or
not.

Chuck Schick
Warp 8, Inc.
(303)-421-5140
www.warp8.com

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New Spam or Virus????!!

2005-04-20 Thread Darin Cox
Nothing yet.  Are these standard zips or encrypted?  We block encrypted.

Darin.


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From: Chuck Schick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude. JunkMail Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 8:05 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] New Spam or Virus!!


Starting to see messages that have a zip attachement with the format 5.zip
or 7.zip  - I do not know if it is spam or a virus.  Anyone else seeing
this?  Virus scanner is not catching it so I do not know if it is a virus or
not.

Chuck Schick
Warp 8, Inc.
(303)-421-5140
www.warp8.com

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New Spam or Virus????!!

2005-04-20 Thread Erik
Coming in though us too.  Using FPROT, but appears now they've updated their
defs so they are being caught now.

They were non-encrypted ZIP's with different file names, single EXE in the
zip.

Erik


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Nothing yet.  Are these standard zips or encrypted?  We block encrypted.

Darin.


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From: Chuck Schick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude. JunkMail Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 8:05 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] New Spam or Virus!!


Starting to see messages that have a zip attachement with the format 5.zip
or 7.zip  - I do not know if it is spam or a virus.  Anyone else seeing
this?  Virus scanner is not catching it so I do not know if it is a virus or
not.

Chuck Schick
Warp 8, Inc.
(303)-421-5140
www.warp8.com

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New Spam or Virus????!!

2005-04-20 Thread Tyler Jensen
I had something similar over the weekend. Standard zip file. If you are using 
F-Prot you may want to add VirusCode 8 to the config. This will stop them as 
Unknown Virus. Check your virus log and you may see some code 8 errors in it. 
Adding viruscode 8 will at least stop them. 

Ouside of email NAV was calling it Trojan.Tooso.H and F-Prot was calling it 
w32/mitglieder.c. I submitted my findings to Declude support earlier in the 
week and spoke with a someone yesterday. Sent the file to him and he said the 
AVG called it a Bagle of some sort.

What is strange is outside of email, f-prot was detecting it. But without 
viruscode 8, nothing. 

Tyler


-- Original Message --
From: Chuck Schick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Date:  Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:05:08 -0600

Starting to see messages that have a zip attachement with the format 5.zip
or 7.zip  - I do not know if it is spam or a virus.  Anyone else seeing
this?  Virus scanner is not catching it so I do not know if it is a virus or
not.

Chuck Schick
Warp 8, Inc.
(303)-421-5140
www.warp8.com

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Earthlink and AOL to require passwords when sending...

2005-04-20 Thread Tyler Jensen
Last night I had to start typing in a password to send from my free yahoo 
account. We'll see what this does.

Tyler


-- Original Message --
From: Darin Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Date:  Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:33:34 -0400

Thought this was interesting...


ISPs are finally taking some responsibility for the amount of spam we all get. 
Both Earthlink and AOL are beginning to implement procedures that will require 
users to use a password when they send emails, in an effort to cut down on the 
use by spammers of zombie machines. AOL estimates that zombie machines are 
responsible for 90 per cent of the spam out there, so if the ISPs can keep it 
from going out, we might not get so much of it.


More here

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/N/NEW_SPAM_BATTLEGROUND?SITE=FLTAMSECTION=HOMETEMPLATE=customwire.htm

Darin.



  
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[Declude.JunkMail] OT: WMI scripting DNS TXT problems

2005-04-20 Thread Daniel Grotjan
I'm trying to automate my dns zone creation and I am running into a problem 
with TXT records.  I'm using WMI and when ever I create an SPF record (or any 
TXT record) it automatically adds a line break at the end of the record.  Does 
anyone have any experience with this or have any idea what would cause this?  
The line below is the one I'm using to create the record. 

objRR.CreateInstanceFromTextRepresentation CONST_SERVER, strZoneName, 
strZoneName   IN TXT v=spf1 mx ~all, objOutParam 

I've tried this every different way I can and I always get the same result.  In 
the zone file, it looks like this

@   TXT ( v=spf1 mx ~all
 )

Also, does anyone know if having this break at the end will cause problems with 
any SPF implementations?

-Daniel
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