Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Passing weight to Externalplus test

2004-04-08 Thread Matt
Scott, FYI, in testing I found that the %WEIGHT% is being passed in, however it seems to be 500 points higher than in reality, with all the weights showing up as being between 500 and 600 over the space of my test. Thanks, Matt Matt wrote: Scott, I've been playing with this for

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Gateways and CMDSPACE conundrum

2004-04-08 Thread Matt
Sandy et al., Regarding how peering is handled, that sucks! It was a bit of a kludge anyway, more than most at least. I just got mail bombed on both servers by three different ISP relays. The recipient address was invalid (sent to and from itself), and if I had MS SMTP/ORF configured on both

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Fw: Announcing SURBL support in SA 2.63 and 3.0 plugins

2004-04-08 Thread R. Scott Perry
Scott, since SpamCop has now setup a RBL to support URI checking, is this something you will consider adding support for in Declude JunkMail? Thanks for mentioning this -- I'm surprised that this is the first I've heard of it. We will likely add support for this to Declude JunkMail.

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Passing weight to Externalplus test

2004-04-08 Thread Matt
Thanks :) R. Scott Perry wrote: FYI, in testing I found that the %WEIGHT% is being passed in, however it seems to be 500 points higher than in reality, with all the weights showing up as being between 500 and 600 over the space of my test. There is a new interim 1.79i4 that fixes this.

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Passing weight to Externalplus test

2004-04-08 Thread Markus Gufler
Cheer up :) No problem. Just wondered about the 8 minutes. :-) I know that in Declude we have a great tool and I can't have it 100% as I want. Hope your external test will work fine and you can add additional tests. As we check for message sizes in SpamChk for over a year now maybe I can

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Passing weight to Externalplus test

2004-04-08 Thread Nick Hayer
On 7 Apr 2004 at 17:20, R. Scott Perry wrote: There is now an interim 1.79i3 at http://www.declude.com/interim that changes the %WEIGHT% variable so that it will include the current weight if it is used before the total weight is calculated. Scott, For me this is what makes me so loyal to

[Declude.JunkMail] feature request IPBYPASS and COUNTRY-CHAIN

2004-04-08 Thread Markus Gufler
Hi Scott, You know my problem with numerous false positives caused by changing IP Blacklist results for several italian ISP-Ips. Occassionaly I can see such false positives now also for certain austrian Ips Would it by possible to specify certain IPBYPASS-COUNTRIES and if the mail oroginates

[Declude.JunkMail] COUNTRIES and Warn Doesn't Always Add Header?

2004-04-08 Thread Dan Geiser
Hello, All, Just looking for a little feedback. I have the following entries in my configuration files... - GLOBAL.CFG FILTER-COUNTRYfilterD:\IMail\declude\JunkMail.23.Filter.Country.txtx00 JunkMail.23.Filter.Country.txt COUNTRIES5CONTAINStw# Taiwan srp.com\$default$.junkmail

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] COUNTRIES and Warn Doesn't Always Add Header?

2004-04-08 Thread R. Scott Perry
Just looking for a little feedback. I have the following entries in my configuration files... JunkMail.23.Filter.Country.txt COUNTRIES 5 CONTAINS tw # Taiwan The problem here is that the list of countries never contains tw # Taiwan. If you change the line to: COUNTRIES 5 CONTAINS tw then

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] feature request IPBYPASS and COUNTRY-CHAIN

2004-04-08 Thread R. Scott Perry
You know my problem with numerous false positives caused by changing IP Blacklist results for several italian ISP-Ips. Occassionaly I can see such false positives now also for certain austrian Ips Would it by possible to specify certain IPBYPASS-COUNTRIES and if the mail oroginates from one of

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] COUNTRIES and Warn Doesn't Always Add Header?

2004-04-08 Thread Dan Geiser
Scott, So we can't use comments in flat text files that are you used as filter files? Or do they just to be on their own line? Thanks, Dan - Original Message - From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 12:28 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] COUNTRIES and Warn Doesn't Always Add Header?

2004-04-08 Thread R. Scott Perry
So we can't use comments in flat text files that are you used as filter files? Or do they just to be on their own line? Comments must be on their own line in the filter files (otherwise, you couldn't do something like have a filter for SPECIAL ###OFFER###).

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude JunkMail FAQ or Knowledge Base?

2004-04-08 Thread Dan Geiser
Hello, All, Unless this resource has been created and I missed it I'm assuming there's still a need in the Declude user community for this. To that end I did some research and found Wiki hosting site which offers both free and paid hosting accounts. I believe my plan for the Wiki would keep it

[Declude.JunkMail] X-Spam-Tests-Failed: Whitelisted

2004-04-08 Thread Brent Brashear
One of our clients requested for us to Whitelist one of their customers... I did it yesterday, and this morning it went (again) to the spam folder I copied part of the header message (changed the names/IP's to protect the 'innocent'). X-Spam-Tests-Failed: Whitelisted X-RCPT-TO: [EMAIL

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] X-Spam-Tests-Failed: Whitelisted

2004-04-08 Thread R. Scott Perry
One of our clients requested for us to Whitelist one of their customers... I did it yesterday, and this morning it went (again) to the spam folder I copied part of the header message (changed the names/IP's to protect the 'innocent'). X-Spam-Tests-Failed: Whitelisted This line means that the

[Declude.JunkMail] Translate subject line encoded

2004-04-08 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Does some one know what this means in plain English? =?Windows-1252?Q?Lu=A0:_RE John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Translate subject line encoded

2004-04-08 Thread Darin Cox
Hmmm...looks like a reference to the 7th Crusade which lasted from 1248-1254. Like all of the other crusades, it was launched in the hopes of finding the Golden Windows or, as some call it today, the Holy Grail. We see the clear reference to Windows, or Grail, but some Latin and/or Spanish

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Translate subject line encoded

2004-04-08 Thread Darin Cox
So are you saying this has nothing to do with the 7th Crusade a little strange humor after a strange night Darin. - Original Message - From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Translate

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Translate subject line encoded

2004-04-08 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
8-0 John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Translate

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELOBOGUS

2004-04-08 Thread R. Scott Perry
Why did this fail HELOBOGUS: X-RBL-Warning: HELOBOGUS: Domain mail.sbapro.com has no MX or A records [0301]. Query: sbapro.com. Query type: Any record Declude JunkMail looks at the host name (mail.sbapro.com), not the parent (otherwise, it would look for com if the HELO/EHLO was

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Translate subject line encoded

2004-04-08 Thread Sharyn Schmidt
Hmmm...looks like a reference to the 7th Crusade which lasted from 1248-1254. Like all of the other crusades, it was launched in the hopes of finding the Golden Windows or, as some call it today, the Holy Grail. We see the clear reference to Windows, or Grail, but some Latin and/or Spanish

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] feature request IPBYPASS and COUNTRY-CHAIN

2004-04-08 Thread Markus Gufler
We will look into this. However, since the geolocation (IP-country functionality) is still considered experimental, it probably will not be a high priority. Well for an experimental feature I can confirm that it works realy good and with 40% of right results by 6% of false positives it is

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] NOLEGITCONTENT Test

2004-04-08 Thread R. Scott Perry
Is there a description of what the NOLEGITCONTENT test looks for? It is adding -5 to a lot of mails and I would like to understand it better. It looks for information that is rarely ever seen in spam, that appears more frequently in legitimate E-mail. The idea is to help ensure that legitimate

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] NOLEGITCONTENT Test

2004-04-08 Thread Lukasz Kaminski
This test should NOT be used to detect spam! It will be triggered Declude JunkMail does not detect any legitimate content in an E-mail. Note that a lot of legitimate E-mail will fail this test, but almost all spam will fail it. Like the IPNOTINMX test, this test is good for helping reduce false

Recall: [Declude.JunkMail] NOLEGITCONTENT Test

2004-04-08 Thread Lukasz Kaminski
Lukasz Kaminski would like to recall the message, [Declude.JunkMail] NOLEGITCONTENT Test. attachment: winmail.dat

[Declude.JunkMail] NOLEGITCONTENT Test

2004-04-08 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Hi, Is there a description of what the NOLEGITCONTENT test looks for? It is adding -5 to a lot of mails and I would like to understand it better. Thanx Goran Jovanovic The LAN Shoppe 2345 Yonge Street, Suite 302 Toronto, Ontario M4P 2E5 Phone: (416) 440-1167 x-2113

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Translate subject line encoded

2004-04-08 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Rolling Eyes If you have seen one Crusade, you have seen them all. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sharyn Schmidt Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 12:38 PM

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] NOLEGITCONTENT Test

2004-04-08 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Scott, Would you say that this test is still a valid test? Is it still worth -5 when the e-mail does not fail it? If both SPAM and HAM are almost never tripping it perhaps it is a moot point anyway as all mail will have the -5 added to it. Goran Jovanovic The LAN Shoppe 2345

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Passing weight to Externalplus test

2004-04-08 Thread Matt
Markus, Thanks for the stats. I've actually been keeping copies of all of the false positives that we are reprocessing since Monday. Here's a break down by the sender (considering that some newsletters and ads are sent to multiple recipients and that throws off the numbers): 1 - 0.5 KB 1 -

[Declude.JunkMail] Double hit on SPAM/BADHEADERS with c020040c

2004-04-08 Thread Matt
Scott, I'm wondering if the following double hit for SPAMHEADERS and BADHEADERS for the same code is related to the same problem (an invalid date header) and if failing both tests is intentional? Out of 4,000 messages held in the last week scoring between 10 and 24 on my system (higher scores

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] NOLEGITCONTENT Test

2004-04-08 Thread Darin Cox
You're just baiting me to see if I'll go wacko again, aren't you? SPAM, HAM...must resist... From what I've seen, it's still a very useful test for reducing false positives. Darin. - Original Message - From: Goran Jovanovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday,

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Double hit on SPAM/BADHEADERS with c020040c

2004-04-08 Thread R. Scott Perry
I'm wondering if the following double hit for SPAMHEADERS and BADHEADERS for the same code is related to the same problem (an invalid date header) and if failing both tests is intentional? It's due to two problems -- whenever both tests fail, there are two (or more) problems. An E-mail will

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] X-Declude-Status: Waiting for activation code

2004-04-08 Thread R. Scott Perry
I have the above header in my mail. Just showed up not too long ago. I have JM Pro and Visur Standard. Virus Standard is running and I have disabled JM Pro by renaming my global.cfg. Whats happening here? I've got a service agreement. That's a bug in an old beta -- if you upgrade to the

[Declude.JunkMail] X-Declude-Status: Waiting for activation code

2004-04-08 Thread Matt Robertson
I have the above header in my mail. Just showed up not too long ago. I have JM Pro and Visur Standard. Virus Standard is running and I have disabled JM Pro by renaming my global.cfg. Whats happening here? I've got a service agreement. -- --- Matt

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Double hit on SPAM/BADHEADERS with c020040c

2004-04-08 Thread Matt
Scott, Thanks for the explanation. I was just making sure. I agree that the logic is sound, it was just the code that was confusing. Strangely enough the only time this code comes up, which is rare, both tests fail. Matt R. Scott Perry wrote: I'm wondering if the following double hit for

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Double hit on SPAM/BADHEADERS with c020040c

2004-04-08 Thread R. Scott Perry
Thanks for the explanation. I was just making sure. I agree that the logic is sound, it was just the code that was confusing. Strangely enough the only time this code comes up, which is rare, both tests fail. That's because the code has a list of the flaws that Declude JunkMail finds in the

[Declude.JunkMail] OT: Adaptec 29160

2004-04-08 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
If any one out there likes playing with hardware and has time, I have an Adaptec 29160 that I removed from service as it was showing parity errors and would cause drives to dismount. Turns out it is an OEM board that my previous employer had purchased as a BULK item about 2 years ago. Card is

[Declude.JunkMail] Size v1.0.0 - Externalplus test

2004-04-08 Thread Matt
Ok, looks like I finally got it all together. I tried to code this up so that it is flexible, allowing an administrator to specify as many different sizes as he or she wishes, and opt whether or not to use the weight skipping mechanism. Here's how it works... There are three arguments to the

[Declude.JunkMail] %RemoteRecps%

2004-04-08 Thread serge
Hi scott The external test matt just wrote is an unvaluable tool for junkmail It also gives us some insight on how to write our own tests to achieve many many things One of them will however need the %RemoteRecep% variable already available in delude virus Is is also available or can it be