RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CBL Blocks

2005-08-04 Thread Orin Wells
Actually I have been lurking mostly for several years. I jump in from time to time. Most of the junkmail records are set to either warn or dump the suspected spam into a spam folder MAILBOX SPAM The users have been instructed to visit their spam mail box from time to time to verify that

[Declude.JunkMail] Spam box

2005-08-04 Thread Richard Farris
Is there a box I can put in front of my Imail server that will help take some of the load off of the spam filtering that Declude is doing Richard FarrisEthixs Online1.270.247. Office1.800.548.3877 Tech Support"Crossroads to a Cleaner Internet"

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam box

2005-08-04 Thread Roderick A. Anderson
Richard Farris wrote: Is there a box I can put in front of my Imail server that will help take some of the load off of the spam filtering that Declude is doing IMGate. http://imgate.meiway.com/ I'm seeing a reduction in rejected messages with no reduction in delivered mail. This

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam box

2005-08-04 Thread Nick Hayer
Richard Farris wrote: Is there a box I can put in front of my Imail server that will help take some of the load off of the spam filtering that Declude is doing Hi Richard - One method is to put ORF in front of your IMail box and via its recipients blacklist feature refuse

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam box

2005-08-04 Thread Goran Jovanovic
I have a question about these boxes that go in front of Declude, be they IMGATE or ORF or whatever. The way that I understand it from reading the threads here is that these front end boxes require the complete list of valid e-mail addresses for all domains that are being processed. Is

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam box

2005-08-04 Thread Nick Hayer
Hi Goran, The way that I understand it from reading the threads here is that these front end boxes require the complete list of valid e-mail addresses for all domains that are being processed. Is that correct? For ORF that is correct - at least the way I use it - If

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam box

2005-08-04 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - From: Goran Jovanovic To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 2:10 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam box I have a question about these boxes that go in front of Declude, be they IMGATE or ORF or

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam box

2005-08-04 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
BL If Exchange is set to blindly accept all forwarded mail and then bounce mail sent to invalid accountsOther add-on software aside, in the Microsoft world, that means the internal server needs to be Exchange Server 2003. Exchange Server 5.5 and Exchange Server 2000 will receive the

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam box

2005-08-04 Thread Matt
Goran and Richard, There are two things that a gateway will do for you; address validation and pre-scanning the most obvious spam in order to reduce the load on an IMail/Declude setup. Address validation is an absolute requirement if you add a gateway, but adding a gateway for address

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam box

2005-08-04 Thread Nick Hayer
Hi Andrew - Colbeck, Andrew wrote: Also, I'd be a little skeptical that ORF would do the job for Goran, as he is basically an ISP for multiple organizations. Common :) Don't be so negative.. He would need extracts from their GALs for each organization, or whatever the

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam box

2005-08-04 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Matt FWIW, Matt, this has changed recently. It makes little difference to you, but I thought this was worth pointing out. The whatsnew.txt for IMail 8.20 and up says that it has the ability to bind the SMTPD to specific IP addresses. Previously, it bound to all addresses. Assuming that

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam box

2005-08-04 Thread Matt
One other note to add to this. ORF plugs-into MS SMTP. I have unfortunately found that MS SMTP doesn't appear to handle rejecting oversized attachments when sent with HELO (not EHLO). When messages don't get rejected properly, they are sent over and over again until they time out. I have a 20

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam box

2005-08-04 Thread Matt
Goran, Address validation is an absolute necessity unless you either want to spend extra money on multiple scanning boxes and/or suffer outages due to pure load. As you add on more domains, the load from dictionary attacks on non-validated addresses will bury you. If these bogus addresses

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam box

2005-08-04 Thread Nick Hayer
Hi Goran, Another follow on question. In either the IMGate or ORF scenario can you only have an address list for some of the domains? So for some you would do the address validation and for others you would allow everything through? Sure. What you have now is wide open - so the

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam box

2005-08-04 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - From: Matt To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam box One other note to add to this.ORF plugs-into MS SMTP. I have unfortunately found that MS SMTP doesn't appear

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam box

2005-08-04 Thread Matt
Bill, The issue is that MS SMTP has a habit of sending back a 552 error while the DATA transfer is still going on, and the sending server doesn't notice the error and then just requeues the message. I did some extensive research into this behavior and found that this was in fact what was

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam box

2005-08-04 Thread Evans Martin
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam box

2005-08-04 Thread Matt
Sandy, FYI, restarting ORF doesn't affect MS SMTP as far as I can tell, and as long as you configure MS SMTP to accept all E-mail, all that a restart of ORF will do is cause a moment of un-validated E-mail which should get deleted by Declude as spam if it came from a dictionary attack. The

Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam box

2005-08-04 Thread Sanford Whiteman
FYI, restarting ORF doesn't affect MS SMTP as far as I can tell, and as long as you configure MS SMTP to accept all E-mail, all that a restart of ORF will do is cause a moment of un-validated E-mail which should get deleted by Declude as spam if it came from a dictionary