[Declude.JunkMail] AHBL:AHBL SBL False Positives

2006-04-03 Thread Don Brown
FWIW AHBL blocks entire /18 address space, when only a few IP's are responsible for sending Spam. They are also non-responsive to removal requests from innocent bystanders who are blocked due to their irresponsibly large IP blocks. See http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ip4r.ch?ip=216.14.34.65 SBL

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hijack Notification

2006-04-03 Thread John Doyle
Thank you for the input. I'll give it a try this week. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Craig Edmonds Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 7:42 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hijack Notification Importance:

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hijack Notification

2006-04-03 Thread John Doyle
this guy suggested this. I'm not sure exactly how. looks like if a count is some value send the mail. john -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Nick Hayer Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 7:59 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re:

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hijack Notification

2006-04-03 Thread Nick Hayer
Hi John, John Doyle wrote: this guy suggested this. I'm not sure exactly how. looks like if a count is some value send the mail. I was just suggesting that the number of files in the spool dir exceed some number [100?] then send an email. I got the idea from the hijack vbs code [Thanks!]

[Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.1 Is Out

2006-04-03 Thread Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC
http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=186 Aside from the web admin, are there any other fixes or feature enhancements? The release notes reference 4.0.9.4 ... Thanks! - Jay Sudowski // Handy Networks LLC Director of Technical Operations Providing Shared, Reseller, Semi Managed and Fully

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hijack Notification

2006-04-03 Thread John Doyle
I think I understand, Im not a programmer and its semi Greek to me. I like the idea of getting notified if the spool file begins to fill up, I check it now and then and if would be nice To simply be notified if it begins to back up for whatever reason. John . From:

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hijack Notification

2006-04-03 Thread Nick Hayer
John Doyle wrote: I think I understand, Im not a programmer and its semi Greek to me. I like the idea of getting notified if the spool file begins to fill up, I check it now and then and if would be nice To simply be notified if it begins to back up for whatever

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hijack Notification

2006-04-03 Thread Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC
QueueMon is excellent for monitoring and logging these things, and very affordable too. http://www.invariantsystems.com/queuemon/ FYI, it doesn't official support SmarterMail, but it works perfectly fine on my SmarterMail servers. Thanks! - Jay Sudowski // Handy Networks LLC Director of

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.1 Is Out

2006-04-03 Thread John T \(Lists\)
From the readme.html: Parent paths must be enabled. Sorry, no they will not be enabled. That is a security risk I am not going to open up on my server. John T eServices For You Seek, and ye shall find! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.1 Is Out

2006-04-03 Thread Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC
Practically speaking, the security risks related to parent paths are near zero. On scale of 0 to 100, having parent paths enabled would be a .01, assuming your NTFS permissions are tight. -Jay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.1 Is Out

2006-04-03 Thread Matt
I beg to differ. IMO, Enabling Parent Paths is one of the biggest security risks for a Web server, and IIS disables them by default because of this. Most exploits require multiple configuration mistakes to exploit, and if you enable Parent Paths, it increases your likelihood of being hacked

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.1 Is Out

2006-04-03 Thread Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC
Wrongg. Enabling parent paths doesn't allow you to actually enter ../../../../../ and transverse directories into your URL string! http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;332117 It simply allows you to use ../ in your ASP and SSI includes! Goodness gracious. PS -

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.1 Is Out

2006-04-03 Thread Matt
Jay, This is incorrect. You can traverse directories within your root using "../" with Parent Paths disabled, but if you enable it, you can go outside your root so long as the file permissions allow it. Here's a quote from the KB article that you linked to: "The Parent Paths option (the

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.1 Is Out

2006-04-03 Thread Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC
Also: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/184717/ NOTE: Disabling ASP Parent Paths will only affect the execution of dynamic content on .asp pages. This does not affect the server's ability to reference static content using HTML code (whether it is called from .htm, .html or .asp files). The

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.1 Is Out

2006-04-03 Thread Kevin Bilbee
Install url scan and use the IIS lockdown tool. this will stop all ../../../ attacks dead in their tracks. Rerardless of the parent pathssetting. Kevin Bilbee -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of MattSent: Monday, April 03, 2006

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.1 Is Out

2006-04-03 Thread Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC
Matt, For what you describe to occur, your attacker has already managed to upload an ASP file to your web site!!!Do you not see the distinction here? Enabling parent paths allows ASP to use ../ notation to break out of the web root directory and access other resources. For this to be a

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.1 Is Out

2006-04-03 Thread Craig Edmonds
On a dedicated server where you have more control over the permissions, I think you can use parent paths without"many" problems. I am an asp programmer and rely on them for my include files etc. Its when you use some of the control panel software that puts permissions about the root of

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.1 Is Out

2006-04-03 Thread Matt
Kevin, IIS 6 has built in protection from double encoding by default (like "..%5c" or ".%2e/" instead of "../"), and I also still use URLScan to block such things even though Microsoft was saying that it wasn't necessary with IIS 6. The other important addition in IIS 6's security is in only

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.1 Is Out

2006-04-03 Thread Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC
Hello Matt - With all due respect, if NTFS permissions are not configured properly then you have many, many things to be worried about aside from having Parent Path being enabled or disabled, particularly if you are allowing people to upload executable files remotely (as in, the server is a

[Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.1Questions

2006-04-03 Thread Panda Consulting S.A. Luis Alberto Arango
The new interface looks nice. Very intuitive Have some questions: 1. Where do I config the VIRDIR directive (EVA) in the new GUI interface? 2. How do I setup de default.junkmail configuration for all domains? Not a per domain configuration? Should I add the domain default? -Luis Arango

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.1 Is Out

2006-04-03 Thread Matt
Jay, Code Red and Nimda, the two biggest worms in the history of the Internet, used vulnerabilities aided by directory transversal (Parent Paths enabled) along with default permissions and paths to infect millions of servers. Servers that weren't patched for the specific vulnerability

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.1 Is Out

2006-04-03 Thread Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC
Matt, It seems that your misconception between Parent Paths and the IIS Unicode Directory Transversal VULNERABILITY remains. Additionally, you also seem to be completely confused with Code Red. Code Red was related to a buffer overflow in Index Server. In order to avoid being impacted this