Re: [Declude.JunkMail] How do you read the Inv-Uribl log file?

2011-04-06 Thread IMail Admin
That’s a good idea, so I looked at what I have in the config file:

!--URI LIST 2--
add key=URIBL_List2 value=multi.uribl.com /
add key=URIBL_Weight_List2 value=0 /
!-- BitValue_2 = comes from black.uribl.org --
!-- BitValue_4 = comes from grey.uribl.org --
!-- BitValue_8 = comes from red.uribl.org --
add key=Enable_Custom_Bitmask_Values_URIBL_List2 value=true /
add key=URI_Bitmask_BitValue_1_Weight_URIBL_List2 value=0 /
add key=URI_Bitmask_BitValue_2_Weight_URIBL_List2 value=7 /
add key=URI_Bitmask_BitValue_4_Weight_URIBL_List2 value=0 /
add key=URI_Bitmask_BitValue_8_Weight_URIBL_List2 value=2 /
add key=URI_Bitmask_BitValue_16_Weight_URIBL_List2 value=0 /
add key=URI_Bitmask_BitValue_32_Weight_URIBL_List2 value=0 /
add key=URI_Bitmask_BitValue_64_Weight_URIBL_List2 value=0 /
add key=URI_Bitmask_BitValue_128_Weight_URIBL_List2 value=0 /

I’m not an expert, but this seems to say that showing up in the black, grey, or 
red lists gets you scores of 7, 0 2 corresponding to bitmasks results of 
127.0.0.2, 127.0.0.4, and 127.0.0.8.  So then I went to the uribl.com web site 
to look up the definitions of these lists:

■black.uribl.com
- This lists contains domain names belonging to and used by spammers, including 
but not restricted to those that appear in URIs found in Unsolicited Bulk 
and/or Commercial Email (UBE/UCE). This list has a goal of zero False 
Positives. This zone rebuilds frequently as new data is added.
■grey.uribl.com
- This lists contains domains found in UBE/UCE, and possibly honour opt-out 
requests. It may include ESPs which allow customers to import their recipient 
lists and may have no control over the subscription methods. This list can and 
probably will cause False Positives depending on your definition of UBE/UCE. 
This zone rebuilds several times a day as necessary.
■red.uribl.com
- This list contains domains that actively show up in mail flow, are not listed 
on URIBL black, and are either: being monitored, very young (domain age via 
whois), or use whois privacy features to protect their identity. This list is 
automated in nature, so please use at your own risk.

From this, I don’t understand why red would rate a score of 2 and grey a score 
of 0.  It seems to me that grey is in between black and red, and should 
probably have a score of 3 or 4.  In my system, that kind of score wouldn’t be 
enough to cause the message to be treated as spam (my Declude threshold for 
“ordinary email” is 5), but it would if combined with other failed tests.

Any thoughts on this?

Thanks,

Ben




From: Nick Hayer
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 5:52 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: re: [Declude.JunkMail] How do you read the Inv-Uribl log file?

maybe it scores bitmask results and 127.0.0.4 response is not tagged?

-Nick


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From: Imail Admin imailad...@bcwebhost.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 8:36 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] How do you read the Inv-Uribl log file?


So I'm still looking at ways to make Inv-Uribl more effective.  I'm getting a 
lot of spam that gets through my system with relatively marginal score so I'm 
looking at the Inv-Uribl log.  Here are the lines for a message that I would 
consider to be obviously spam, yet came through Inv-Uribl as Clean:

2011-03-31 02:53:09.343 2011-03-31 02:53:12.484 
D:\IMail\spool\proc\work\D5d0b028c100f.smd netcontentinc.com 127.0.0.4 URI 
from message body found in multi.uribl.com [4] [Total Weight=0]
2011-03-31 02:53:09.343 2011-03-31 02:53:12.953 
D:\IMail\spool\proc\work\D5d0b028c100f.smd Resolved netcontentinc.com to 
207.65.119.238 [Total Weight=0]
2011-03-31 02:53:09.343 2011-03-31 02:53:12.953 
D:\IMail\spool\proc\work\D5d0b028c100f.smd Resolved avantresources.com to 
216.139.251.42 [Total Weight=0]
2011-03-31 02:53:09.343 2011-03-31 02:53:12.953 
D:\IMail\spool\proc\work\D5d0b028c100f.smd Resolved bcwebhost.net to 
173.164.65.196 [Total Weight=0]

Did I miss something here that should have triggered a score (additional spam 
weight in Declude)?

Thanks,

Ben


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] email being delivered with blank body. What happened to body?

2011-04-06 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi,



Time to call Declude on the line or (Linda) via Skype and ask them.

I am using “regular” Declude on an Imail system, not the interceptor version.



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Van: Rick Davidson [mailto:rdavid...@nat.com]
Verzonden: dinsdag 5 april 2011 20:52
Aan: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Onderwerp: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] email being delivered with blank body. What 
happened to body?



So running the 3.4.10.59 (or .49 what ever it is supposed to be) resulted in a 
bit of chaos for me



So there were no more blank email bodies but instead it randomly started mixing 
up the Q and D files and delivering message bodies to unintended recipients 
(yea no kidding)



The headers look normal, exactly like they are supposed to be, however the 
message is delivered to the wrong recipient

Received: from nateet1.nat.com (64.143.180.230) by mail.nat.com

(10.101.226.10) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.137.0; Tue, 5 Apr

2011 11:53:48 -0500

Received: from mx1.nat.com (64.143.180.231) by nateet1.nat.com

(64.143.180.231) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.137.0; Tue, 5 Apr 2011

11:53:42 -0500

Received: from fnbtc.net [209.149.254.11]   by mx1.nat.com 
(Alligate(TM) SMTP

Gateway v3.11.1.27)  with ESMPT id

b5ebbfc2087eab34.8d3a4a8f6d574...@mx1.nat.com for some...@nat.com; 
Tue,

05 Apr 2011 11:53:23 -0500

Received: from ([192.168.3.1])   by mail.fnbtc.net with ESMTP  id

J3NF5H1.30523111;Tue, 05 Apr 2011 12:16:50 -0400

Received: by fnb_tc_02.fnb_tc with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id

2KAZYZJ7; Tue, 5 Apr 2011 12:37:54 -0400

Message-ID: 4C6283FBCA6604418688004ED2B8EC6C24ED23EB@fnb_tc_02.fnb_tc

From: Mrs Someone some...@seacoastnational.com

To: 'Mr Someone' some...@nat.com

Subject: chairs

Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 12:37:53 -0400

MIME-Version: 1.0

X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72)

Content-Type: multipart/alternative;

boundary=_=_NextPart_001_01CBF3AF.CF9AC848

X-MXRate-Prob: 0

X-MXRate-Country: US

X-MXRate-Action: NONE

X-Alligate-ReceivingIP: [64.143.180.230]

X-Alligate-Country-Chain: United States-Destination

X-Alligate-Tarpit: NOSUBD;GREY (20secs)

X-Alligate-Grey: Passed

X-Alligate-REVDNS: mail.fnbtc.net

X-Alligate-HELO: fnbtc.net

X-Alligate-Spam: NOSUBD;TARPIT;

X-Alligate-MsgScan: (10) NOTGOODSNDR[10];

X-Alligate-ID: 245564

X-Originating-IP: 209.149.254.11

X-Alligate-RcptTo: some...@nat.com

Return-Path: some...@seacoastnational.com

X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHTER: Message failed WEIGHTER test (line 29, weight 1)

X-Declude-Sender: some...@seacoastnational.com [209.149.254.11]

X-Declude-Spoolname: D005433486.smd

X-Declude-RefID: str=0001.0A020202.4D9B4913.0045:SCFSTAT2058654,ss=1,fgs=0

X-SendingHost: seacoastnational.com

X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES-destination

X-Recipients: some...@nat.com

X-Declude-Fail: BACKSCATTER [4], COMMENTS [7], WEIGHTER [1]

X-Declude-Score: 12





Alligate

11:53:07.578 - (245564) Cmd recd: MAIL FROM:some...@seacoastnational.com 
size=5349

11:53:07.734 - (245564) Cmd recd: RCPT TO:some...@nat.com



Declude Junkmail

04/05/2011 11:53:39.156 Q005433486.smd From: some...@seacoastnational.com To: 
some...@nat.com  IP: 209.xxx.xxx.xx ID: J3NF5H1.30523111



Here is where it goes bad, the handoff from Declude to Exchange, there are two 
new recipients and an additional sender address



2011-04-05T16:53:42.453Z,64.143.180.231,,64.143.180.231,mx1,08CDBFF5751E827C;2011-04-05T16:53:42.296Z;0,mx1\Inbound
 From 
Internet,SMTP,RECEIVE,31471,4C6283FBCA6604418688004ED2B8EC6C24ED23EB@fnb_tc_02.fnb_tc,someo...@nat.com;someo...@nat.com,,9626,2,,,chairs,some...@seacoastnational.com,some...@msn.com,10I:



the message above was delivered to someo...@nat.com and someo...@nat.com from 
some...@msn.com instead of what was contained in the headers





Rolled back to previous version…



--

Rick



From: Rick Davidson
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 8:37 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] email being delivered with blank body. What 
happened to body?



Login to the interim area

Go to interceptor

There is a dir called 3.4.10.59



Swap out the decludeproc.exe files



I am running it this morning and indeed that issue does not exist, however the 
diags.txt says it is 3.4.10.49



--

rick



From: Harry Vanderzand [mailto:ha...@intown.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 8:05 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] email being delivered with 

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How do you read the Inv-Uribl log file?

2011-04-06 Thread Scott Fisher
The 127.0.0.4 is a gray listing for the uribl.   I personally don't score
the gray result because of too many false positives.



 !--URI LIST 2--

add key=URIBL_List2 value=multi.uribl.com /

add key=URIBL_Weight_List2 value=0 /

!-- BitValue_2 = comes from black.uribl.org --

!-- BitValue_4 = comes from grey.uribl.org --

 add key=Enable_Custom_Bitmask_Values_URIBL_List2 value=true /

add key=URI_Bitmask_BitValue_1_Weight_URIBL_List2 value=0 /

add key=URI_Bitmask_BitValue_2_Weight_URIBL_List2 value=75 /

add key=URI_Bitmask_BitValue_4_Weight_URIBL_List2 value=0 /

add key=URI_Bitmask_BitValue_8_Weight_URIBL_List2 value=0 /

add key=URI_Bitmask_BitValue_16_Weight_URIBL_List2 value=0 /

add key=URI_Bitmask_BitValue_32_Weight_URIBL_List2 value=0 /

add key=URI_Bitmask_BitValue_64_Weight_URIBL_List2 value=0 /

add key=URI_Bitmask_BitValue_128_Weight_URIBL_List2 value=0 /





-Original Message-
From: Imail Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 7:34 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] How do you read the Inv-Uribl log file?



So I'm still looking at ways to make Inv-Uribl more effective.  I'm getting
a lot of spam that gets through my system with relatively marginal score so
I'm looking at the Inv-Uribl log.  Here are the lines for a message that I
would consider to be obviously spam, yet came through Inv-Uribl as Clean:



2011-03-31 02:53:09.343 2011-03-31 02:53:12.484
D:\IMail\spool\proc\work\D5d0b028c100f.smd netcontentinc.com 127.0.0.4
URI from message body found in multi.uribl.com [4] [Total Weight=0]
2011-03-31 02:53:09.343 2011-03-31 02:53:12.953
D:\IMail\spool\proc\work\D5d0b028c100f.smd Resolved netcontentinc.com to
207.65.119.238 [Total Weight=0]
2011-03-31 02:53:09.343 2011-03-31 02:53:12.953
D:\IMail\spool\proc\work\D5d0b028c100f.smd Resolved avantresources.com
to 216.139.251.42 [Total Weight=0]
2011-03-31 02:53:09.343 2011-03-31 02:53:12.953
D:\IMail\spool\proc\work\D5d0b028c100f.smd Resolved bcwebhost.net to
173.164.65.196 [Total Weight=0]

Did I miss something here that should have triggered a score (additional
spam weight in Declude)?



Thanks,



Ben




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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] How do you read the Inv-Uribl log file?

2011-04-06 Thread IMail Admin
HI Scott,

It looks to me like you only score the black and not the grey or red listings.  
The config I have, which would have come from someone else or the default 
because I’ve never tried tweaking inv-uribl, scores black and red but not grey. 
 I’m thinking of scoring grey with a small score but I was waiting to see 
response on the list such as yours.

Thanks,

Ben

From: Scott Fisher
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 6:50 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How do you read the Inv-Uribl log file?

The 127.0.0.4 is a gray listing for the uribl.   I personally don’t score the 
gray result because of too many false positives.



 !--URI LIST 2--

add key=URIBL_List2 value=multi.uribl.com /

add key=URIBL_Weight_List2 value=0 /

!-- BitValue_2 = comes from black.uribl.org --

!-- BitValue_4 = comes from grey.uribl.org --

 add key=Enable_Custom_Bitmask_Values_URIBL_List2 value=true /

add key=URI_Bitmask_BitValue_1_Weight_URIBL_List2 value=0 /

add key=URI_Bitmask_BitValue_2_Weight_URIBL_List2 value=75 /

add key=URI_Bitmask_BitValue_4_Weight_URIBL_List2 value=0 /

add key=URI_Bitmask_BitValue_8_Weight_URIBL_List2 value=0 /

add key=URI_Bitmask_BitValue_16_Weight_URIBL_List2 value=0 /

add key=URI_Bitmask_BitValue_32_Weight_URIBL_List2 value=0 /

add key=URI_Bitmask_BitValue_64_Weight_URIBL_List2 value=0 /

add key=URI_Bitmask_BitValue_128_Weight_URIBL_List2 value=0 /





-Original Message-
From: Imail Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 7:34 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] How do you read the Inv-Uribl log file?



So I'm still looking at ways to make Inv-Uribl more effective.  I'm getting a 
lot of spam that gets through my system with relatively marginal score so I'm 
looking at the Inv-Uribl log.  Here are the lines for a message that I would 
consider to be obviously spam, yet came through Inv-Uribl as Clean:



2011-03-31 02:53:09.343 2011-03-31 02:53:12.484 
D:\IMail\spool\proc\work\D5d0b028c100f.smd netcontentinc.com 127.0.0.4 URI 
from message body found in multi.uribl.com [4] [Total Weight=0]
2011-03-31 02:53:09.343 2011-03-31 02:53:12.953 
D:\IMail\spool\proc\work\D5d0b028c100f.smd Resolved netcontentinc.com to 
207.65.119.238 [Total Weight=0]
2011-03-31 02:53:09.343 2011-03-31 02:53:12.953 
D:\IMail\spool\proc\work\D5d0b028c100f.smd Resolved avantresources.com to 
216.139.251.42 [Total Weight=0]
2011-03-31 02:53:09.343 2011-03-31 02:53:12.953 
D:\IMail\spool\proc\work\D5d0b028c100f.smd Resolved bcwebhost.net to 
173.164.65.196 [Total Weight=0]

Did I miss something here that should have triggered a score (additional spam 
weight in Declude)?



Thanks,



Ben




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