Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Clarification..needed

2003-11-26 Thread Nick Hayer
Scott,

Sure seems to work like a charm. Again - very kool!

-Nick
 
 There is a new interim release (1.76i28) at 
 http://www.declude.com/release/176i/declude.exe that changes the way
 that the weight is calculated (in i27 it would count negative weights,
 but no longer will), and adds logging at LOGLEVEL HIGH that should
 help determine if there are other issues.
 
-Scott
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Clarification..needed

2003-11-26 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - 
From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 There is a new interim release (1.76i28) at
 http://www.declude.com/release/176i/declude.exe that changes the way that
 the weight is calculated (in i27 it would count negative weights, but no
 longer will), and adds logging at LOGLEVEL HIGH that should help determine
 if there are other issues.

Just for a bit of further clarification, when you say it will no longer
count negative weights, does that mean the score will not be reduced by
negative weights, even if they are list first in a filter file?

Bill

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Clarification..needed

2003-11-26 Thread R. Scott Perry

 There is a new interim release (1.76i28) at
 http://www.declude.com/release/176i/declude.exe that changes the way that
 the weight is calculated (in i27 it would count negative weights, but no
 longer will), and adds logging at LOGLEVEL HIGH that should help determine
 if there are other issues.
Just for a bit of further clarification, when you say it will no longer
count negative weights, does that mean the score will not be reduced by
negative weights, even if they are list first in a filter file?
That just refers to weights in the last column in the test 
definitions.  For example, the IPNOTINMX test ends in ... 0 -3.  That -3 
was originally used in counting the weight (if the E-mail did not or had 
not yet failed the test), but no longer is.

   -Scott
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Clarification..needed

2003-11-26 Thread Bill Landry
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From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   There is a new interim release (1.76i28) at
   http://www.declude.com/release/176i/declude.exe that changes the way
that
   the weight is calculated (in i27 it would count negative weights, but
no
   longer will), and adds logging at LOGLEVEL HIGH that should help
determine
   if there are other issues.
 
 Just for a bit of further clarification, when you say it will no longer
 count negative weights, does that mean the score will not be reduced by
 negative weights, even if they are list first in a filter file?

 That just refers to weights in the last column in the test
 definitions.  For example, the IPNOTINMX test ends in ... 0 -3.  That -3
 was originally used in counting the weight (if the E-mail did not or had
 not yet failed the test), but no longer is.

I'm sorry, Scott, I must have a mental block here.  Are you saying that
the -3 for the IPNOTINMX test is not deducted before the filter tests are
run, but would still be deducted after all of the filter tests have been
run, and before final disposition of the message?  Sorry for being dense, I
just want to make sure I understand the new scoring process.

Thanks,

Bill

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Clarification..needed

2003-11-26 Thread R. Scott Perry

 That just refers to weights in the last column in the test
 definitions.  For example, the IPNOTINMX test ends in ... 0 -3.  That -3
 was originally used in counting the weight (if the E-mail did not or had
 not yet failed the test), but no longer is.
I'm sorry, Scott, I must have a mental block here.  Are you saying that
the -3 for the IPNOTINMX test is not deducted before the filter tests are
run, but would still be deducted after all of the filter tests have been
run, and before final disposition of the message?  Sorry for being dense, I
just want to make sure I understand the new scoring process.
The weight of the E-mail will remain the same.

All that changes is the way that the SKIPIFWEIGHT option calculates the 
weight to determine whether or not to skip the test.

   -Scott
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[Declude.JunkMail] Clarification..needed

2003-11-25 Thread Kami Razvan



Scott:

I added the 
following:

SKIPIFWEIGHT60MAXWEIGHT60
I thought this 
would force the filter to skip if the weight is 60 and if the weight inside the 
filter reaches 60 it should also exit.
Interestingly 
enough none of the filters that have this at the top ever 
execute.
Regards,
Kami


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Clarification..needed

2003-11-25 Thread R. Scott Perry

I added the following:

SKIPIFWEIGHT 60
MAXWEIGHT 60
I thought this would force the filter to skip if the weight is 60 and if 
the weight inside the filter reaches 60 it should also exit.

Interestingly enough none of the filters that have this at the top ever 
execute.
There is a new interim release (1.76i28) at 
http://www.declude.com/release/176i/declude.exe that changes the way that 
the weight is calculated (in i27 it would count negative weights, but no 
longer will), and adds logging at LOGLEVEL HIGH that should help determine 
if there are other issues.

   -Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Clarification..needed

2003-11-25 Thread Kami Razvan
Hi Scott:

What I did was to move all of our negative weights to the top of the
global.cfg file.

None of our filter files have mixed positive   negative weights- they are
either all positive or all negative.  Considering what you stated earlier
that the tests are run according to the order they are listed in the
global.cfg it seems like moving the negative weight tests to the top is the
right thing to do.

After adding the two lines to the top (considering we delete on 60) and
again considering all the negative weights are done first the filters that
have the two lines were expected not to run only if the weight is 60.

The following is the order I had things listed.

1: IP4r, spamdomains, helobogus... Etc.
2: Negative tests
3: Filters with the two lines at top.

Our spam folder all of a sudden had about 20 emails in it all at weights of
30 -50.. And none have any of the filters listed.  The log file shows none
of the filters being run.

I commented the two lines and will do more test tomorrow..

Regards,
Kami


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I added the following:

SKIPIFWEIGHT 60
MAXWEIGHT 60

I thought this would force the filter to skip if the weight is 60 and 
if the weight inside the filter reaches 60 it should also exit.

Interestingly enough none of the filters that have this at the top ever 
execute.

There is a new interim release (1.76i28) at
http://www.declude.com/release/176i/declude.exe that changes the way that
the weight is calculated (in i27 it would count negative weights, but no
longer will), and adds logging at LOGLEVEL HIGH that should help determine
if there are other issues.

-Scott
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