Re[10]: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin

2005-09-23 Thread Sanford Whiteman
If SA returns a score of 15, will the return code be set to 8 (or whatever the value of -et) or will it just not count it as spam? Let's try this again: if you're using -e and -et, there's no it counting anything as spam. You're passing the SA weight (or the -et value, if the SA

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RE: Re[10]: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin

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Re: Re[8]: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin

2005-09-21 Thread Travis Sullivan
'returnvalue' would be better written returnvalue, i.e. it's a variable -- the the return value you're watching for. But you don't want an 'external retunvalue' type. You want an 'external weight' type. I couldn't get 'external weight' to work, am I missing something?

Re[10]: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin

2005-09-21 Thread Sanford Whiteman
I couldn't get 'external weight' to work, am I missing something? SPAMASSASSIN external weight e:\imail\declude\spamd\spamc32.exe -d 209.215.97.193 -e -et 6 -f 4 0 Don't assign Declude weights to 'external weight' tests. The weight comes from the external test's result code. Stop the

[Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin

2005-09-20 Thread Travis Sullivan
I can't find documentation with regards to how to use a remove spamassassin server as an external test in declude v 1.81. Any help will be much appreciated. Thanks! Travis --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin

2005-09-20 Thread David Barker
www.declude.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 1:21 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin I can't find documentation with regards to how

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin

2005-09-20 Thread Travis Sullivan
, September 20, 2005 12:29 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin Travis not sure what you are asking with how to use a remove :) 1. To remove the external test just # comment out the test in your global.cfg 2. To use spamassassin I would suggest using this plugin SPAMC32 http

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin

2005-09-20 Thread Nick Hayer
@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 12:29 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin Travis not sure what you are asking with how to use a remove :) 1. To remove the external test just # comment out the test in your global.cfg 2. To use spamassassin I would suggest using

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin

2005-09-20 Thread Travis Sullivan
: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin Hi Travis - Sandy's plugin does the 'somehow' part. Simply have it point to your spamd. Here is the line from my global.cfg that may help - EXTERNAL.SPAMASSASSIN_v3.04externalNONZERO e:\imail\declude\spamd\spamc32.exe -D -d 12.152.254.3

Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin

2005-09-20 Thread Sanford Whiteman
I have spamassasin running on my unix servers. I want to use this as an external test for my imail/declude system as an external test. A Declude external test uses filtering logic outside Declude: it sends raw envelope and/or header data to a separate filtering system from Declude and

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin

2005-09-20 Thread Nick Hayer
] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin Hi Travis - Sandy's plugin does the 'somehow' part. Simply have it point to your spamd. Here is the line from my global.cfg that may help - EXTERNAL.SPAMASSASSIN_v3.04

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin

2005-09-20 Thread Travis Sullivan
SPAMASSASSINexternalnonzero c:\imail\declude\spamc32.exe -cw %WEIGHT% -sw 10 -f choose a weight 0 -f is supposed to be the filename... but the example doesn't give one. So, how does spamc send a file name to spamd? Travis --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin

2005-09-20 Thread Nick Hayer
Travis Sullivan wrote: SPAMASSASSINexternalnonzero c:\imail\declude\spamc32.exe -cw %WEIGHT% -sw 10 -f choose a weight 0 -f is supposed to be the filename... but the example doesn't give one. So, how does spamc send a file name to spamd? Declude hands it off to it. Actually I

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin

2005-09-20 Thread Travis Sullivan
Thanks guys, I have it working now! BTW... any way to retrieve any info from SA with regards to test failed or weight? This is what I have in my logs: Msg failed SPAMASSASSIN (Message failed SPAMASSASSIN: 1.). Action=WARN All I have is a 1, that is the score I have set as the test weight, for

Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin

2005-09-20 Thread Sanford Whiteman
Thanks guys, I have it working now! BTW... any way to retrieve any info from SA with regards to test failed or weight? This info is not currently used by Declude, though it is accessible when you run SPAMC32 against a message from the command line. Declude Junkmail doesn't support the use

Re: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin

2005-09-20 Thread Travis Sullivan
Anyway, the next version of SPAMC32 is coming out very soon with the ability to consult a local SPAMC32 log file (rather than the main SPAMD log file) to check which individual SA rules failed for each message; this is a definite need. Thanks Sandy, I just wanted to make sure I

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin

2005-09-20 Thread Matt
Sandy, The latest Declude's support bitmasked result codes. You might consider creating a user maintained map from tests failed in SA to bitmapped result codes returned to Declude. I'm not sure what the limit might be in Declude for the number of unique tests, but I have managed to use 16 so

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin

2005-09-20 Thread Nick Hayer
Travis Sullivan wrote: So, the only thing I will see in the headers is the total score SA results: X-RBL-Warning: SPAMASSASSIN: Message failed SPAMASSASSIN: 3. And declude scores only for the test group, like other tests in the global.cfg file? Correct. Very slick huh? And good job

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin

2005-09-20 Thread Keith Johnson
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 5:44 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin Travis Sullivan wrote: So, the only thing I will see in the headers is the total score SA results: X-RBL-Warning: SPAMASSASSIN: Message

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin - topic change

2005-09-20 Thread Nick Hayer
Anyway, the next version of SPAMC32 is coming out very soon with the ability to consult a local SPAMC32 log file (rather than the main SPAMD log file) to check which individual SA rules failed for each message; this is a definite need. Hi Sandy, Well since you are working on the

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin

2005-09-20 Thread Travis Sullivan
Nick, If you don't mind, is SA heavy on the CPU? What kinda load are you running with SA? I have 3k plus users getting 300k emails per day... my SA is running on a linux server, P4 2ghz... no increase in load when I started using SA with declude today. The best config I have set is:

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin

2005-09-20 Thread Nick Hayer
Hi Keith, Keith Johnson wrote: Nick, If you don't mind, is SA heavy on the CPU? What kinda load are you running with SA? First I am no authority here but am willing to share my experience. Sandy's spamd32 seems to be no issue as near as I can tell. The cpu issue is with spamd. .I

Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin - topic change

2005-09-20 Thread Sanford Whiteman
Well since you are working on the code - something that for me would be nice is a modification to your -e switch. What I would like to have happen is return the SA weight only after a threshold is met. For example with a setting of 5 an email of 4.99 would not be considered spam

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin

2005-09-20 Thread Keith Johnson
for our three servers. Thanks again, Keith From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Travis Sullivan Sent: Tue 9/20/2005 6:31 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin Nick, If you don't mind, is SA heavy

Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin

2005-09-20 Thread Sanford Whiteman
The latest Declude's support bitmasked result codes. You might consider creating a user maintained map from tests failed in SA to bitmapped result codes returned to Declude. I'm not sure what the limit might be in Declude for the number of unique tests, but I have managed to use

Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin

2005-09-20 Thread Sanford Whiteman
I guess the speeds are much the same as quering a local DNS server for lookups. SA advocate though I am, I can't say that's the case. The speed of a UDP DNS lookup is far faster than a SPAMC32/SPAMD TCP connection for even a tiny message, due both to UDP vs. TCP differences and the

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin

2005-09-20 Thread Matt
Sandy, The utility in this is that the tests failed would be centralized in one application, Delude, and available for combo tests and easier diagnosis within that framework. Of course SpamAssassin has a multitude of different tests and scores within those tests, and it isn't practical to do

Re: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin

2005-09-20 Thread Travis Sullivan
The best config I have set is: SPAMASSASSIN externalnonzero e:\imail\declude\spamd\spamc32.exe -d 209.215.97.193 -r -lt 4 -et 6 -f 3 0 I 'think' so far that spamassassin only reports if SA's score is 4 or more, if so, I score it a 3 on the email test. I am still playing with the values

Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin

2005-09-20 Thread Sanford Whiteman
Of course SpamAssassin has a multitude of different tests and scores within those tests, and it isn't practical to do everything in bitmask fashion, but I could see some utility in separating out a bayesian test as BAYESIAN-LOW, BAYESIAN-MED and BAYESIAN-HIGH for instance, or

Re[4]: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin

2005-09-20 Thread Sanford Whiteman
A few more tests later, I have found the SA results of 1 to be spam, and my global.cfg line scores a hit at 3, this 3 gets added to the result of SA's 1 and therefore I get 4 points. There should be no _addition_ of Declude-defined weights to external test result codes! I don't even know

Re: Re[4]: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin

2005-09-20 Thread Travis Sullivan
Sandy; There should be no _addition_ of Declude-defined weights to external test result codes! I don't even know how your test definition could be doing that. Certainly, that's not the intended use of SPAMC32. Yes, another mistake on my part. Sorry :( What's confusing you seems to be the

Re[6]: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin

2005-09-20 Thread Sanford Whiteman
Can you point me to the manual please? :) I would like to see what else can be done besides the nonzero (ham or spam). I would like to rate how smelly the spam is :) Take a look: http://www.declude.com/Version/Manuals/2.0.6.asp --Sandy Sanford

Re: Re[6]: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin

2005-09-20 Thread Travis Sullivan
Take a look: http://www.declude.com/Version/Manuals/2.0.6.asp Ah! I was thinking of your manual. Well, anyhow, I couldn't get the 'returnvalue' to work. only nonzero seams to work. any ideas? I used the following without success: SPAMASSASSIN externalreturnvalue