Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Are tests executed?

2004-05-20 Thread Nick Hayer


On 20 May 2004 at 14:46, Goran Jovanovic GJovanovic wrote:

Goran,

Since this has not been answered someone lower on the food chain [me]
will give it a try

On 20 May 2004 at 13:57, Goran Jovanovic wrote:

 OK if I have a test defined in the GLOBAL.CFG and I have per-domain
 configs and if I only add the line 
 
 TESTNAME WARN (or whatever) 
 
 In only one domain's $default$.junkmail file
 
 1) Will the test be executed for each e-mail for every domain or
 only the tests listed in that domains .junkmail file?
The test will always execute - it is defined in the global.cfg. The
ACTIONS of the test will execute are defines in that domains
.junkmail file

  2) If the test is executed for all domains then
 will the score of the  test be added to e-mails for all domains?
Nope. the ACTION of the test - WARN, etc execution is controlled by
the  .junkmail where the test is listed.

   3) If 2 is true then doI have to add TESTNAME IGNORE to all 
other  domain's config files to not count the score?
nope.

Hope this confused ya...

Bottom line the way I see it - tests are executed in the global.cfg.
IF that test is defined in a particular .junkmail file that 
junkmail file will define the action to take.

Cheers - 

-Nick Hayer

 
 Thanx
 
 
 
  Goran Jovanovic
  The LAN Shoppe
 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Are tests executed?

2004-05-20 Thread Matt




Nick and Goran,

I thought that I would clarify one thing that I think is more to the
point on one of the questions regarding scoring.

When a test produces a score, that score always applies to the total
weight regardless of if an action is defined in the JunkMail file.
With custom filters you can disable the filter and therefore the
scoring for a particular user or domain using END statements so that it
doesn't produce any score, but you need to have JunkMail Pro to do
that, and you should be running at least the 1.79 beta.

If you want to be more specific, I'm sure that someone around here will
help you get something running the way you want it to.

Matt



Nick Hayer wrote:

  
On 20 May 2004 at 14:46, "Goran Jovanovic" GJovanovic wrote:

Goran,

Since this has not been answered someone lower on the food chain [me]
will give it a try

On 20 May 2004 at 13:57, Goran Jovanovic wrote:

  
  
OK if I have a test defined in the GLOBAL.CFG and I have per-domain
configs and if I only add the line 

TESTNAME WARN (or whatever) 

In only one domain's $default$.junkmail file

1) Will the test be executed for each e-mail for every domain or
only the tests listed in that domains .junkmail file?

  
  The test will always execute - it is defined in the global.cfg. The
ACTIONS of the test will execute are defines in "that domains
.junkmail file"

  2) If the test is executed for all domains then
  
  
will the score of the  test be added to e-mails for all domains?

  
  Nope. the ACTION of the test - WARN, etc execution is controlled by
the  ".junkmail where the test is listed.

   3) If 2 is true then doI have to add TESTNAME IGNORE to all 
other  domain's config files to not count the score?
nope.

Hope this confused ya...

Bottom line the way I see it - tests are executed in the global.cfg.
"IF" that test is defined in a particular .junkmail file that 
junkmail file will define the action to take.

Cheers - 

-Nick Hayer

  
  
Thanx



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 The LAN Shoppe

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Are tests executed?

2004-05-20 Thread Goran Jovanovic








OK Let me recap



TESTNAME filter 



Is defined in global.cfg



Every e-mail what goes through the system
will have this test executed against it.



Assuming no END statements the test will
run to conclusion. If the e-mail fails something in the test that gives it a
score of 10 then (here we have a difference of opinion)



John says that the 10 will be added to the
score for that e-mail regardless of the per domain configs

Nick says that the 10 will not be added to
the score of the e-mail unless the TESTNAME is defined in the per domain config



The actions that can be taken in the per
domain config 



TESTNAME
IGNORE this will add the score to the e-mail but nothing will
be added to the headers

TESTNAME
WARN this will add the score to the e-mail and
a warning in the headers





What I am really trying to understand is:



I want to try out a new test. I put it in
global.cfg. It is a filter test that is going to add scores of 5 to 50
depending on what it does. I only want the test to apply to one domain so that
I can test it out. How do I do this? Can I do this?











Goran Jovanovic

 The LAN Shoppe

 2345 Yonge Street, Suite 302

 Toronto, Ontario M4P 2E5

 Phone: (416)
440-1167 x-2113

 Cell: (416)
931-0688

 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

















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Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 3:48
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
Are tests executed?





Nick and Goran,

I thought that I would clarify one thing that I think is more to the point on
one of the questions regarding scoring.

When a test produces a score, that score always applies to the total weight
regardless of if an action is defined in the JunkMail file. With custom
filters you can disable the filter and therefore the scoring for a particular
user or domain using END statements so that it doesn't produce any score, but
you need to have JunkMail Pro to do that, and you should be running at least
the 1.79 beta.

If you want to be more specific, I'm sure that someone around here will help
you get something running the way you want it to.

Matt



Nick Hayer wrote:



On 20 May 2004 at 14:46, Goran Jovanovic GJovanovic wrote:Goran,Since this has not been answered someone lower on the food chain [me]will give it a tryOn 20 May 2004 at 13:57, Goran Jovanovic wrote: 

OK if I have a test defined in the GLOBAL.CFG and I have per-domainconfigs and if I only add the line TESTNAME WARN (or whatever) In only one domain's $default$.junkmail file1) Will the test be executed for each e-mail for every domain oronly the tests listed in that domains .junkmail file? 

The test will always execute - it is defined in the global.cfg. TheACTIONS of the test will execute are defines in that domains.junkmail file  2) If the test is executed for all domains then 

will the score of the test be added to e-mails for all domains? 

Nope. the ACTION of the test - WARN, etc execution is controlled bythe .junkmail where the test is listed.   3) If 2 is true then doI have to add TESTNAME IGNORE to all other  domain's config files to not count the score?nope.Hope this confused ya...Bottom line the way I see it - tests are executed in the global.cfg.IF that test is defined in a particular .junkmail file that junkmail file will define the action to take.Cheers - -Nick Hayer 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Are tests executed?

2004-05-20 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
   2) If the test is executed for all domains then
  will the score of the  test be added to e-mails for all domains?
 Nope. the ACTION of the test - WARN, etc execution is controlled by
 the  .junkmail where the test is listed.

Incorrect. While it is true of the action, the weight will still be added.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Are tests executed?

2004-05-20 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)








I just posted a reply to Nicks
post that I should have done earlier. The weight will be applied no matter
what, assuming no END statements and such.



Since it is a filter test, I would put a
line at the top something like this:



ALLRECIPS END NOTENDSWITH domaintobeusedfortestthisrule



That way, unless the recipient is in the
domain you list, the test will end.





John Tolmachoff

Engineer/Consultant/Owner

eServices For You







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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 1:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
Are tests executed?



OK Let me recap



TESTNAME filter 



Is defined in global.cfg



Every e-mail what goes through the system
will have this test executed against it.



Assuming no END statements the test will
run to conclusion. If the e-mail fails something in the test that gives it a
score of 10 then (here we have a difference of opinion)



John says that the 10 will be added to the
score for that e-mail regardless of the per domain configs

Nick says that the 10 will not be added to
the score of the e-mail unless the TESTNAME is defined in the per domain config



The actions that can be taken in the per
domain config 



TESTNAME IGNORE
this will add the score to the e-mail but nothing will be added to the headers

TESTNAME
WARN this will add the score to the e-mail
and a warning in the headers





What I am really trying to understand is:



I want to try out a new test. I put it in
global.cfg. It is a filter test that is going to add scores of 5 to 50
depending on what it does. I only want the test to apply to one domain so that
I can test it out. How do I do this? Can I do this?











Goran Jovanovic

 The LAN Shoppe

 2345 Yonge Street, Suite 302

 Toronto, Ontario M4P 2E5

 Phone: (416)
440-1167 x-2113

 Cell: (416)
931-0688

 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

















From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 3:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
Are tests executed?





Nick and Goran,

I thought that I would clarify one thing that I think is more to the point on
one of the questions regarding scoring.

When a test produces a score, that score always applies to the total weight
regardless of if an action is defined in the JunkMail file. With custom
filters you can disable the filter and therefore the scoring for a particular
user or domain using END statements so that it doesn't produce any score, but
you need to have JunkMail Pro to do that, and you should be running at least
the 1.79 beta.

If you want to be more specific, I'm sure that someone around here will help
you get something running the way you want it to.

Matt



Nick Hayer wrote:

On 20 May 2004 at 14:46, Goran Jovanovic GJovanovic wrote:Goran,Since this has not been answered someone lower on the food chain [me]will give it a tryOn 20 May 2004 at 13:57, Goran Jovanovic wrote: 

OK if I have a test defined in the GLOBAL.CFG and I have per-domainconfigs and if I only add the line TESTNAME WARN (or whatever) In only one domain's $default$.junkmail file1) Will the test be executed for each e-mail for every domain oronly the tests listed in that domains .junkmail file? 

The test will always execute - it is defined in the global.cfg. TheACTIONS of the test will execute are defines in that domains.junkmail file  2) If the test is executed for all domains then 

will the score of the test be added to e-mails for all domains? 

Nope. the ACTION of the test - WARN, etc execution is controlled bythe .junkmail where the test is listed.   3) If 2 is true then doI have to add TESTNAME IGNORE to all other  domain's config files to not count the score?nope.Hope this confused ya...Bottom line the way I see it - tests are executed in the global.cfg.IF that test is defined in a particular .junkmail file that junkmail file will define the action to take.Cheers - -Nick Hayer 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Are tests executed?

2004-05-20 Thread Nick Hayer
On 20 May 2004 at 13:34, John Tolmachoff (Lists) wrote:
 Incorrect. While it is true of the action, the weight will still be
 added.
Yup - I was thinking about 0 [zero] scoring and taking an action in 
the applicable junkmail file.

Sorry about the misinformation..

-Nick Hayer

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Are tests executed?

2004-05-20 Thread Matt




Goran,

Not a difference of opinion, a difference in description, but they were
all accurate.

Test actions have no effect on the score (weight) applied by tests.
Setting a test action to IGNORE will not affect the score applied by
that test.

What you are looking to do would be best done with a filter that began
with the line:

ALLRECIPS  END  NOTCONTAINS  @mytestdomain.com

...yadda, yadda, yadda

To do this, you must download the most recent interim release, 1.79i6,
otherwise the ALLRECIPS might be broken, and NOTCONTAINS was just
introduced in this version (alleluia).

Matt




Goran Jovanovic wrote:

  
  

  
  
  

  
  
  
  OK Let me
recap
  
  TESTNAME
filter 
  
  Is defined
in global.cfg
  
  Every e-mail
what goes through the system
will have this test executed against it.
  
  Assuming no
END statements the test will
run to conclusion. If the e-mail fails something in the test that gives
it a
score of 10 then (here we have a difference of opinion)
  
  John says
that the 10 will be added to the
score for that e-mail regardless of the per domain configs
  Nick says
that the 10 will not be added to
the score of the e-mail unless the TESTNAME is defined in the per
domain config
  
  The actions
that can be taken in the per
domain config 
  
  TESTNAME
IGNORE this will add the score to the e-mail but nothing will
be added to the headers
  TESTNAME
WARN this will add the score to the e-mail and
a warning in the headers
  
  
  What I am
really trying to understand is:
  
  I want to
try out a new test. I put it in
global.cfg. It is a filter test that is going to add scores of 5 to 50
depending on what it does. I only want the test to apply to one domain
so that
I can test it out. How do I do this? Can I do this?
  
  
  
  
  
  Goran Jovanovic
   The LAN Shoppe
   2345 Yonge Street, Suite 302
   Toronto, Ontario
  M4P 2E5
   Phone:
(416)
440-1167 x-2113
   Cell:
(416)
931-0688
   E-Mail:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Matt
  Sent: Thursday, May
20, 2004 3:48
PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re:
[Declude.JunkMail]
Are tests executed?
  
  
  Nick and Goran,
  
I thought that I would clarify one thing that I think is more to the
point on
one of the questions regarding scoring.
  
When a test produces a score, that score always applies to the total
weight
regardless of if an action is defined in the JunkMail file. With
custom
filters you can disable the filter and therefore the scoring for a
particular
user or domain using END statements so that it doesn't produce any
score, but
you need to have JunkMail Pro to do that, and you should be running at
least
the 1.79 beta.
  
If you want to be more specific, I'm sure that someone around here will
help
you get something running the way you want it to.
  
Matt
  
  
  
Nick Hayer wrote:
  
  
  
  On 20 May 2004 at 14:46, "Goran Jovanovic" GJovanovic wrote:
  
  Goran,
  
  Since this has not been answered someone lower on the food chain [me]
  will give it a try
  
  On 20 May 2004 at 13:57, Goran Jovanovic wrote:
  
   
  
OK if I have a test defined in the GLOBAL.CFG and I have per-domain
configs and if I only add the line 

TESTNAME WARN (or whatever) 

In only one domain's $default$.junkmail file

1) Will the test be executed for each e-mail for every domain or
only the tests listed in that domains .junkmail file?
 
  
  The test will always execute - it is defined in the global.cfg. The
  ACTIONS of the test will execute are defines in "that domains
  .junkmail file"
  
2) If the test is executed for all domains then
   
  
will the score of the test be added to e-mails for all domains?
 
  
  Nope. the ACTION of the test - WARN, etc execution is controlled by
  the ".junkmail where the test is listed.
  
 3) If 2 is true then doI have to add TESTNAME IGNORE to all 
  other  domain's config files to not count the score?
  nope.
  
  Hope this confused ya...
  
  Bottom line the way I see it - tests are executed in the global.cfg.
  "IF" that test is defined in a particular .junkmail file that 
  junkmail file will define the action to take.
  
  Cheers - 
  
  -Nick Hayer
  
   
  
Thanx



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 The LAN Shoppe

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Are tests executed?

2004-05-20 Thread Scott Fisher
I'm pretty sure NOTCONTAINS requires 1.79i7

Scott Fisher
Director of IT
Farm Progress Companies

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/20/04 04:05PM 
Goran,

Not a difference of opinion, a difference in description, but they were 
all accurate.

Test actions have no effect on the score (weight) applied by tests.  
Setting a test action to IGNORE will not affect the score applied by 
that test.

What you are looking to do would be best done with a filter that began 
with the line:

ALLRECIPS  END  NOTCONTAINS  @mytestdomain.com

...yadda, yadda, yadda

To do this, you must download the most recent interim release, 1.79i6, 
otherwise the ALLRECIPS might be broken, and NOTCONTAINS was just 
introduced in this version (alleluia).

Matt




Goran Jovanovic wrote:

 OK Let me recap

  

 TESTNAME filter ..

  

 Is defined in global.cfg

  

 Every e-mail what goes through the system will have this test executed 
 against it.

  

 Assuming no END statements the test will run to conclusion. If the 
 e-mail fails something in the test that gives it a score of 10 then 
 (here we have a difference of opinion)

  

 John says that the 10 will be added to the score for that e-mail 
 regardless of the per domain configs

 Nick says that the 10 will not be added to the score of the e-mail 
 unless the TESTNAME is defined in the per domain config

  

 The actions that can be taken in the per domain config

  

 TESTNAME   IGNOREthis will add the score to the e-mail but nothing 
 will be added to the headers

 TESTNAME   WARN   this will add the score to the e-mail and a 
 warning in the headers

  

  

 What I am really trying to understand is:

  

 I want to try out a new test. I put it in global.cfg. It is a filter 
 test that is going to add scores of 5 to 50 depending on what it does. 
 I only want the test to apply to one domain so that I can test it out. 
 How do I do this? Can I do this?

  

  

  

  Goran Jovanovic

  The LAN Shoppe

  2345 Yonge Street, Suite 302

  Toronto, Ontario M4P 2E5

  Phone: (416) 440-1167 x-2113

  Cell: (416) 931-0688

  E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  

  

 

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
 Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 3:48 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Are tests executed?

  

 Nick and Goran,

 I thought that I would clarify one thing that I think is more to the 
 point on one of the questions regarding scoring.

 When a test produces a score, that score always applies to the total 
 weight regardless of if an action is defined in the JunkMail file.  
 With custom filters you can disable the filter and therefore the 
 scoring for a particular user or domain using END statements so that 
 it doesn't produce any score, but you need to have JunkMail Pro to do 
 that, and you should be running at least the 1.79 beta.

 If you want to be more specific, I'm sure that someone around here 
 will help you get something running the way you want it to.

 Matt



 Nick Hayer wrote:

 

On 20 May 2004 at 14:46, Goran Jovanovic GJovanovic wrote:

 

Goran,

 

Since this has not been answered someone lower on the food chain [me]

will give it a try

 

On 20 May 2004 at 13:57, Goran Jovanovic wrote:

 

  

OK if I have a test defined in the GLOBAL.CFG and I have per-domain

configs and if I only add the line 

 

TESTNAME WARN (or whatever) 

 

In only one domain's $default$.junkmail file

 

1) Will the test be executed for each e-mail for every domain or

only the tests listed in that domains .junkmail file?



The test will always execute - it is defined in the global.cfg. The

ACTIONS of the test will execute are defines in that domains

.junkmail file

 

  2) If the test is executed for all domains then

  

will the score of the  test be added to e-mails for all domains?



Nope. the ACTION of the test - WARN, etc execution is controlled by

the  .junkmail where the test is listed.

 

   3) If 2 is true then doI have to add TESTNAME IGNORE to all 

other  domain's config files to not count the score?

nope.

 

Hope this confused ya...

 

Bottom line the way I see it - tests are executed in the global.cfg.

IF that test is defined in a particular .junkmail file that 

junkmail file will define the action to take.

 

Cheers - 

 

-Nick Hayer

 

  

Thanx

 

 

 

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 The LAN Shoppe

 

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Are tests executed?

2004-05-20 Thread Matt




Sorry about that. You are of course correct.

Matt



Scott Fisher wrote:

  I'm pretty sure NOTCONTAINS requires 1.79i7

Scott Fisher
Director of IT
Farm Progress Companies

  
  

  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/20/04 04:05PM 

  

  
  Goran,

Not a difference of opinion, a difference in description, but they were 
all accurate.

Test actions have no effect on the score (weight) applied by tests.  
Setting a test action to IGNORE will not affect the score applied by 
that test.

What you are looking to do would be best done with a filter that began 
with the line:

ALLRECIPS  END  NOTCONTAINS  @mytestdomain.com

...yadda, yadda, yadda

To do this, you must download the most recent interim release, 1.79i6, 
otherwise the ALLRECIPS might be broken, and NOTCONTAINS was just 
introduced in this version (alleluia).

Matt




Goran Jovanovic wrote:

  
  
OK Let me recap

 

TESTNAME filter ..

 

Is defined in global.cfg

 

Every e-mail what goes through the system will have this test executed 
against it.

 

Assuming no END statements the test will run to conclusion. If the 
e-mail fails something in the test that gives it a score of 10 then 
(here we have a difference of opinion)

 

John says that the 10 will be added to the score for that e-mail 
regardless of the per domain configs

Nick says that the 10 will not be added to the score of the e-mail 
unless the TESTNAME is defined in the per domain config

 

The actions that can be taken in the per domain config

 

TESTNAME   IGNOREthis will add the score to the e-mail but nothing 
will be added to the headers

TESTNAME   WARN   this will add the score to the e-mail and a 
warning in the headers

 

 

What I am really trying to understand is:

 

I want to try out a new test. I put it in global.cfg. It is a filter 
test that is going to add scores of 5 to 50 depending on what it does. 
I only want the test to apply to one domain so that I can test it out. 
How do I do this? Can I do this?

 

 

 

 Goran Jovanovic

 The LAN Shoppe

 2345 Yonge Street, Suite 302

 Toronto, Ontario M4P 2E5

 Phone: (416) 440-1167 x-2113

 Cell: (416) 931-0688

 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 3:48 PM
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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Are tests executed?

 

Nick and Goran,

I thought that I would clarify one thing that I think is more to the 
point on one of the questions regarding scoring.

When a test produces a score, that score always applies to the total 
weight regardless of if an action is defined in the JunkMail file.  
With custom filters you can disable the filter and therefore the 
scoring for a particular user or domain using END statements so that 
it doesn't produce any score, but you need to have JunkMail Pro to do 
that, and you should be running at least the 1.79 beta.

If you want to be more specific, I'm sure that someone around here 
will help you get something running the way you want it to.

Matt



Nick Hayer wrote:



On 20 May 2004 at 14:46, "Goran Jovanovic" GJovanovic wrote:



Goran,



Since this has not been answered someone lower on the food chain [me]

will give it a try



On 20 May 2004 at 13:57, Goran Jovanovic wrote:



 



  OK if I have a test defined in the GLOBAL.CFG and I have per-domain

configs and if I only add the line 



TESTNAME WARN (or whatever) 



In only one domain's $default$.junkmail file



1) Will the test be executed for each e-mail for every domain or

only the tests listed in that domains .junkmail file?

   

  

The test will always execute - it is defined in the global.cfg. The

ACTIONS of the test will execute are defines in "that domains

.junkmail file"





  2) If the test is executed for all domains then
  

 



  will the score of the  test be added to e-mails for all domains?

   

  

Nope. the ACTION of the test - WARN, etc execution is controlled by

the  ".junkmail where the test is listed.





  
3) If 2 is true then doI have to add TESTNAME IGNORE to all 

  

other  domain's config files to not count the score?

nope.



Hope this confused ya...



Bottom line the way I see it - tests are executed in the global.cfg.

"IF" that test is defined in a particular .junkmail file that 

junkmail file will define the action to take.



Cheers - 



-Nick Hayer



 



  Thanx







Goran Jovanovic

The LAN Shoppe



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2004-05-20 Thread Goran Jovanovic








OK this is what I really wanted to know. Guess
I should have asked that in the first place.



I will go and get the latest interim
and then check it out J 



Thanx









Goran Jovanovic

 The LAN Shoppe

















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Are tests executed?





Goran,

Not a difference of opinion, a difference in description, but they were all
accurate.

Test actions have no effect on the score (weight) applied by tests.
Setting a test action to IGNORE will not affect the score applied by that test.

What you are looking to do would be best done with a filter that began with the
line:

ALLRECIPS  END 
NOTCONTAINS  @mytestdomain.com

...yadda, yadda, yadda

To do this, you must download the most recent interim release, 1.79i6,
otherwise the ALLRECIPS might be broken, and NOTCONTAINS was just introduced in
this version (alleluia).

Matt




Goran
 Jovanovic wrote:



OK
Let me recap



TESTNAME filter 



Is defined in global.cfg



Every e-mail what goes through the system
will have this test executed against it.



Assuming no END statements the test will
run to conclusion. If the e-mail fails something in the test that gives it a
score of 10 then (here we have a difference of opinion)



John says that the 10 will be added to the
score for that e-mail regardless of the per domain configs

Nick says that the 10 will not be added to
the score of the e-mail unless the TESTNAME is defined in the per domain config



The actions that can be taken in the per
domain config 



TESTNAME
IGNORE this will add the score to the e-mail but nothing will
be added to the headers

TESTNAME
WARN this will add the score to the e-mail
and a warning in the headers





What I am really trying to understand is:



I want to try out a new test. I put it in
global.cfg. It is a filter test that is going to add scores of 5 to 50
depending on what it does. I only want the test to apply to one domain so that
I can test it out. How do I do this? Can I do this?













Goran Jovanovic

 The LAN Shoppe

 2345 Yonge Street, Suite 302

 Toronto, Ontario M4P 2E5

 Phone: (416)
440-1167 x-2113

 Cell: (416)
931-0688

 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

















From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 3:48
PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
Are tests executed?







Nick and Goran,

I thought that I would clarify one thing that I think is more to the point on one
of the questions regarding scoring.

When a test produces a score, that score always applies to the total weight
regardless of if an action is defined in the JunkMail file. With custom
filters you can disable the filter and therefore the scoring for a particular
user or domain using END statements so that it doesn't produce any score, but
you need to have JunkMail Pro to do that, and you should be running at least
the 1.79 beta.

If you want to be more specific, I'm sure that someone around here will help
you get something running the way you want it to.

Matt



Nick Hayer wrote:




On 20 May 2004 at 14:46, Goran Jovanovic GJovanovic wrote:Goran,Since this has not been answered someone lower on the food chain [me]will give it a tryOn 20 May 2004 at 13:57, Goran Jovanovic wrote: 

OK if I have a test defined in the GLOBAL.CFG and I have per-domainconfigs and if I only add the line TESTNAME WARN (or whatever) In only one domain's $default$.junkmail file1) Will the test be executed for each e-mail for every domain oronly the tests listed in that domains .junkmail file? 

The test will always execute - it is defined in the global.cfg. TheACTIONS of the test will execute are defines in that domains.junkmail file  2) If the test is executed for all domains then 

will the score of the test be added to e-mails for all domains? 

Nope. the ACTION of the test - WARN, etc execution is controlled bythe .junkmail where the test is listed.   3) If 2 is true then doI have to add TESTNAME IGNORE to all other  domain's config files to not count the score?nope.Hope this confused ya...Bottom line the way I see it - tests are executed in the global.cfg.IF that test is defined in a particular .junkmail file that junkmail file will define the action to take.Cheers - -Nick Hayer 

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