re: Re[4]: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS Changes

2008-10-09 Thread Linda Pagillo
Sandy... Uptime should be 100% on DNS servers. It's 2008! This should not even be a consideration. No matter how wonderfully they work, a high-traffic mail server will _always_ be slowed down by using DNS servers over a WAN. In a perfect world this would be correct, but as you already know from

Re: Re[6]: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS Changes

2008-10-09 Thread Darin Cox
I have to say I also agree with Sandy. While recommending a free external DNS solution like OpenDNS is an easy fix for many less technical customers, as Sandy has pointed out it is not the best solution. 1. The customer has no control over its availability. With a free external DNS solution

Re[6]: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS Changes

2008-10-09 Thread Sanford Whiteman
In a perfect world this would be correct, but as you already know from working in the IT profession, no server, DNS or otherwise has an uptime of 100%. A single physical DNS server may go down, sure, whatever. The DNS config (redundant DNS servers or load-balanced on a virtual IP) used by

Re: Re[6]: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS Changes

2008-10-09 Thread Ncl Admin
There is also the question of loss of connectivity from point A to OpenDNS server #1 which is all that you have if you setup Declude to use a Single Source DNS server. If anywhere in that path there is an outage you will have no DNS. Far better to learn a little about DNS and run your own. Then

RE: Re[6]: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS Changes

2008-10-09 Thread Patrick Childers
Sandy, I agree with you. While recommending OpenDNS is certainly painless and easy for the support desk, it is certainly not the best solution for an in-house mail server - especially those running anti-spam products. Just my .02 ~Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

re: Re[6]: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS Changes

2008-10-09 Thread Linda Pagillo
Sandy, A single physical DNS server may go down, sure, whatever. The DNS config (redundant DNS servers or load-balanced on a virtual IP) used by a mail infrastructure _must_ be 100% as available as the mailservers themselves. I'm certain that everybody on this list who runs a hosting provider or

[Declude.JunkMail] Project Honeypot

2008-10-09 Thread David Dodell
Anyone using Project Honeypot as a spam database lookup? If so, what do you have in your declude configuration for the setup? Thanks David --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe

RE: Re[6]: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS Changes

2008-10-09 Thread Linda Pagillo
Thanks Kevin. I will be sure to pass this info on to the customers that i speak with. From: Kevin Bilbee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 2:19 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: Re[6]: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS Changes I

Re[8]: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS Changes

2008-10-09 Thread Sanford Whiteman
I have a suggestion since DNS is so critical to Declude. A secure recursive bind implementation can be setup in less than 5 minutes. Kevin, thank you very much for proving the absurd ease with which this one (of many) DNS servers can be set up for this purpose, and to everybody else who

RE: Re[8]: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS Changes

2008-10-09 Thread Kevin Bilbee
I will admit, Bind is not the easiest thing to setup if you are a new admin. The first time I tried to setup bind it took me about 3 hours, but to me the benefits outweigh commercial packages. Including reading on-line documentation and eliminating one error at a time, making sure it was secure.

Re[8]: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS Changes

2008-10-09 Thread Sanford Whiteman
Yeah, that would surprise me utterly, since they wouldn't be able to do _anything else_ with said servers that would lead them to believe they were suitable for Declude's use. I worked for an ISP for a long time before joining Declude. DNS servers are NOT useless without the recursive

RE: Re[8]: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS Changes

2008-10-09 Thread Kevin Bilbee
Not to be picky but run this query instead nslookup -q=mx gmail.com. 1.2.3.4 If you do not include the dot it may append the default domain for the windows box to the query. If there is no default domain specified then all is good. But the extra do will always work. Kevin Bilbee

RE: Re[8]: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS Changes

2008-10-09 Thread Sanford Whiteman [Mobile]
Thanks, K. ipconfig from a mailserver that can surf the net is another duh quickie... . --Sandy --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at

[Declude.JunkMail] automated response

2008-10-09 Thread Richardson, John E.
I am out of the office until Wed. Oct 19. Thank you for your message, I will get back to you as soon as I can after I return. John Richardson --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe