RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for vulnerabilties

2007-10-05 Thread Kevin Bilbee
I reported this to declude. They are working on it.

 

 

 

Kevin Bilbee

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 6:53 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for vulnerabilties

 

Hi,

 

I put in 4.3.62 in this afternoon (was running a different interim from a
few months ago). Since then I had numerous different clients reporting
clients with Outlook 'MIME segment in MIME postamble' Vulnerability.

 

Valid emails from Lotus Notes 6 with attachments were rejected (reproducible
at will), messages from Yahoo Webmail, etc.

 

If a change was made that triggers this test for major mailers, then it's
worthless because no one can keep it on!

 

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RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for vulnerabilties

2007-10-05 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Kevin, thanks.

 

To save me and my customers frustration - is it limited to that one
vulnerability - or are other's involved that I should disable proactively
(or reverse to the previous build)?

 

Best Regards,

Andy

 

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Bilbee
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 3:15 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for
vulnerabilties

 

I reported this to declude. They are working on it.

 

 

 

Kevin Bilbee

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 6:53 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for vulnerabilties

 

Hi,

 

I put in 4.3.62 in this afternoon (was running a different interim from a
few months ago). Since then I had numerous different clients reporting
clients with Outlook 'MIME segment in MIME postamble' Vulnerability.

 

Valid emails from Lotus Notes 6 with attachments were rejected (reproducible
at will), messages from Yahoo Webmail, etc.

 

If a change was made that triggers this test for major mailers, then it's
worthless because no one can keep it on!

 

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RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for vulnerabilties

2007-10-05 Thread David Barker
We are looking into this code, are you sure it is 4.3.62 and not a change
with YahooMailWebService?

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:53 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for vulnerabilties

 

Hi,

 

I put in 4.3.62 in this afternoon (was running a different interim from a
few months ago). Since then I had numerous different clients reporting
clients with Outlook 'MIME segment in MIME postamble' Vulnerability.

 

Valid emails from Lotus Notes 6 with attachments were rejected (reproducible
at will), messages from Yahoo Webmail, etc.

 

If a change was made that triggers this test for major mailers, then it's
worthless because no one can keep it on!

 

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 From: Dorene D Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Subject: Fw: Our Virus Firewall has Rejected Your Email!

 To: Michael Page [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 MIME-Version: 1.0

 Content-Type: multipart/alternative;  

 boundary=0-1745477977-1191536601=:15605

 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 

 

Best Regards
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Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 


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RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for vulnerabilties

2007-10-05 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Dave,

 

Well, I dropped in 4.3.62 in the afternoon and throughout the afternoon was
getting reports from people using VARIOUS email systems (not limited to
Yahoo's mail service), that just happened to be the one that I had at my
finger tips.

 

I can also say that it happened to people sending mail from Lotus Notes 6. I
worked with the Tech Guy at the client's client and he tried to send me
simply emails with a zip or PDF attachment and nothing got past 4.3.62.

 

File:   [No attachment]
Result: Found[Outlook 'MIME segment in MIME Postamble' Vulnerability]

-Original Message Headers-
Received: from DOMSVR1.L***.COM [***.26.122.219] by
Mail.Webhost.HM-Software.com with ESMTP
(SMTPD-9.21) id A46A0358; Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:43:54 -0400
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Riverside Quote P/N: 147329
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.5 November 30, 2005
Message-ID:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 13:43:36 -0500
X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on DOMSVR1/domino(Release 6.5.6|March 06,
2007) at 10/04/2007
13:43:38
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary==_mixed 0066DE538625736A_= 



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RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for vulnerabilties

2007-10-05 Thread Andy Schmidt
I did not have this problem with .57.  So we can rule out .46.

 

Sorry, jumped right from .57 to .62 - so can't say if it was introduced with
.59 already.

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 10:49 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for
vulnerabilties

 

Ok, we are working on the issue, can you replicate it with an earlier
version of Declude like .46 or .59 ?



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RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for vulnerabilties

2007-10-05 Thread Kevin Bilbee
Our previous version is 4.3.46 and it work fine except for the Outlook
space Gap Issue. I have not loaded any of the other interims to be able to
test them.

 

 

 

 

Kevin Bilbee

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 7:49 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for
vulnerabilties

 

Ok, we are working on the issue, can you replicate it with an earlier
version of Declude like .46 or .59 ?

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 10:45 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for
vulnerabilties

 

Hi Dave,

 

Well, I dropped in 4.3.62 in the afternoon and throughout the afternoon was
getting reports from people using VARIOUS email systems (not limited to
Yahoo's mail service), that just happened to be the one that I had at my
finger tips.

 

I can also say that it happened to people sending mail from Lotus Notes 6. I
worked with the Tech Guy at the client's client and he tried to send me
simply emails with a zip or PDF attachment and nothing got past 4.3.62.

 

File:   [No attachment]
Result: Found[Outlook 'MIME segment in MIME Postamble' Vulnerability]

-Original Message Headers-
Received: from DOMSVR1.L***.COM [***.26.122.219] by
Mail.Webhost.HM-Software.com with ESMTP
(SMTPD-9.21) id A46A0358; Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:43:54 -0400
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Riverside Quote P/N: 147329
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.5 November 30, 2005
Message-ID:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 13:43:36 -0500
X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on DOMSVR1/domino(Release 6.5.6|March 06,
2007) at 10/04/2007
13:43:38
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary==_mixed 0066DE538625736A_= 


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RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for vulnerabilties

2007-10-05 Thread David Barker
Ok so if you revert to .57 the issue goes away correct.

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 11:18 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for
vulnerabilties

 

I did not have this problem with .57.  So we can rule out .46.

 

Sorry, jumped right from .57 to .62 - so can't say if it was introduced with
.59 already.

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 10:49 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for
vulnerabilties

 

Ok, we are working on the issue, can you replicate it with an earlier
version of Declude like .46 or .59 ?


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RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for vulnerabilties

2007-10-05 Thread Andy Schmidt
I have not reverted to .57, I have disabled this vulnerability in the
Virus.cfg for now to see what other issues I might uncover. (There was a
false positive reported last night for a different vulnerability for mail
send by Netscapes mail applet, but I haven't firmed that one up yet).

 

If you like me to, I have an archive of held Postamble MIME files that are
LEGITIMATE (some of them are automatically created emails that our clients
used to get all the time) and zip them up to you? If so, which email do you
want me to use?

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 11:27 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for
vulnerabilties

 

Ok so if you revert to .57 the issue goes away correct.

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 11:18 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for
vulnerabilties

 

I did not have this problem with .57.  So we can rule out .46.

 

Sorry, jumped right from .57 to .62 - so can't say if it was introduced with
.59 already.

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 10:49 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for
vulnerabilties

 

Ok, we are working on the issue, can you replicate it with an earlier
version of Declude like .46 or .59 ?


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RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for vulnerabilties

2007-10-05 Thread David Barker
Send them directly to me.

 

David

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 12:15 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for
vulnerabilties

 

I have not reverted to .57, I have disabled this vulnerability in the
Virus.cfg for now to see what other issues I might uncover. (There was a
false positive reported last night for a different vulnerability for mail
send by Netscapes mail applet, but I haven't firmed that one up yet).

 

If you like me to, I have an archive of held Postamble MIME files that are
LEGITIMATE (some of them are automatically created emails that our clients
used to get all the time) and zip them up to you? If so, which email do you
want me to use?

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 11:27 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for
vulnerabilties

 

Ok so if you revert to .57 the issue goes away correct.

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 11:18 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for
vulnerabilties

 

I did not have this problem with .57.  So we can rule out .46.

 

Sorry, jumped right from .57 to .62 - so can't say if it was introduced with
.59 already.

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 10:49 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for
vulnerabilties

 

Ok, we are working on the issue, can you replicate it with an earlier
version of Declude like .46 or .59 ?


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RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for vulnerabilties

2007-10-05 Thread Andy Schmidt
Dave,

 

The Blank Folding Vulnerability is ALSO causing false positives (but not as
many as the Postamble one).

 

I'll send you ANOTHER email with Blank Folding false positives in about 5
minutes.

 

I have to back this release out - something majorly wrong with it.

 

Best Regards,

Andy

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:53 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for vulnerabilties

 

Hi,

 

I put in 4.3.62 in this afternoon (was running a different interim from a
few months ago). Since then I had numerous different clients reporting
clients with Outlook 'MIME segment in MIME postamble' Vulnerability.

 

Valid emails from Lotus Notes 6 with attachments were rejected (reproducible
at will), messages from Yahoo Webmail, etc.

 

If a change was made that triggers this test for major mailers, then it's
worthless because no one can keep it on!

 

 -Original Message Headers-

 Received: from web54307.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.49.117] by  

 Mail.Webhost.HM-Software.com

   (SMTPD-9.21) id A7D90348; Thu, 04 Oct 2007 18:23:21 -0400

 Received: (qmail 16141 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Oct 2007 22:23:21  

 -

 X-YMail-OSG:  

 gMjlzJ8VM1kitP0O1BmKwo27pVtlLBqWelr5JqstaE0yZq5YNhiYJacdUZWYkR9IjJ6G5P 

 haJ4H_VqsBIIjZqitJIsJEP6cL7GEoJN4Oqb_aWbnemUc3IZbdqDlDjg--

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 X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/651.50 YahooMailWebService/0.7.134

 Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:23:21 -0700 (PDT)

 From: Dorene D Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Subject: Fw: Our Virus Firewall has Rejected Your Email!

 To: Michael Page [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 MIME-Version: 1.0

 Content-Type: multipart/alternative;  

 boundary=0-1745477977-1191536601=:15605

 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 

 

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 


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RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for vulnerabilties

2007-10-05 Thread David Barker
Thanks for the feedback we are looking at it as #1 priority at the moment.

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 2:09 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for
vulnerabilties

 

Dave,

 

The Blank Folding Vulnerability is ALSO causing false positives (but not as
many as the Postamble one).

 

I'll send you ANOTHER email with Blank Folding false positives in about 5
minutes.

 

I have to back this release out - something majorly wrong with it.

 

Best Regards,

Andy

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:53 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for vulnerabilties

 

Hi,

 

I put in 4.3.62 in this afternoon (was running a different interim from a
few months ago). Since then I had numerous different clients reporting
clients with Outlook 'MIME segment in MIME postamble' Vulnerability.

 

Valid emails from Lotus Notes 6 with attachments were rejected (reproducible
at will), messages from Yahoo Webmail, etc.

 

If a change was made that triggers this test for major mailers, then it's
worthless because no one can keep it on!

 

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RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for vulnerabilties

2007-10-05 Thread Andy Schmidt
I reverted to .57 and had someone resent an email with Attachment from Lotus
Notes and this time it went through.

 

So - the answer is yes, the problem goes away with .57.

 

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Ok so if you revert to .57 the issue goes away correct.

 

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I did not have this problem with .57.  So we can rule out .46.

 

Sorry, jumped right from .57 to .62 - so can't say if it was introduced with
.59 already.

 

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Ok, we are working on the issue, can you replicate it with an earlier
version of Declude like .46 or .59 ?


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[Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for vulnerabilties

2007-10-04 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi,

 

I put in 4.3.62 in this afternoon (was running a different interim from a
few months ago). Since then I had numerous different clients reporting
clients with Outlook 'MIME segment in MIME postamble' Vulnerability.

 

Valid emails from Lotus Notes 6 with attachments were rejected (reproducible
at will), messages from Yahoo Webmail, etc.

 

If a change was made that triggers this test for major mailers, then it's
worthless because no one can keep it on!

 

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