Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Andrew McIntyre
On 6/22/06, Daniel John Debrunner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't an implementation of JSR221 writing (clean room) classes in the java.sql and javax.sql name spaces. (e.g. java.sql.Driver javax.sql.DataSource). Derby is not doing that, Derby is providing an implementation of a JDBC driver, not

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Andrew McIntyre
Errata from my last post, changes marked between ** ;-) On 6/22/06, Andrew McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Presumably this is where the idea that you can't ship something that implements an interface in a *non-final* JSR comes from ... Sun wants to release a version of *JavaDB based on

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Andrew McIntyre
On 6/22/06, Andrew McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (which would be the 10.1.2 in (3) ) one last errata - this should read: (which would be the 10.2.2.x in (3) ) a

[jira] Created: (DERBY-1444) Using -Djvmflags option causes NoClassDefFoundError

2006-06-23 Thread JIRA
Using -Djvmflags option causes NoClassDefFoundError Key: DERBY-1444 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1444 Project: Derby Type: Bug Components: Test Environment: Suns jvm 1.5 Reporter:

[jira] Created: (DERBY-1445) Add new streaming overloads and modify some existing ones.

2006-06-23 Thread V.Narayanan (JIRA)
Add new streaming overloads and modify some existing ones. --- Key: DERBY-1445 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1445 Project: Derby Type: New Feature Components: JDBC Reporter:

[jira] Assigned: (DERBY-1445) Add new streaming overloads and modify some existing ones.

2006-06-23 Thread V.Narayanan (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1445?page=all ] V.Narayanan reassigned DERBY-1445: -- Assign To: V.Narayanan Add new streaming overloads and modify some existing ones. ---

[jira] Updated: (DERBY-1445) Add new streaming overloads and modify some existing ones.

2006-06-23 Thread V.Narayanan (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1445?page=all ] V.Narayanan updated DERBY-1445: --- Attachment: JDBC40_long_length_overloads.diff JDBC40_long_length_overloads.stat Attaching patch for issue. Please also find the output of svn

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Daniel John Debrunner wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: Daniel John Debrunner wrote: Jean T. Anderson wrote: David posted a good summary of the legal catch-22 at [1]. But the shortest story is: + Mustang wants to ship a GA Derby 10.2, which supports JDBC 4.0. + Derby can't ship a GA

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Daniel John Debrunner wrote: Brian McCallister wrote: On Jun 22, 2006, at 7:09 PM, Daniel John Debrunner wrote: You cannot have a GA version of a JDBC 4 driver until JSR 221 goes final. Where does this restriction come from? Until a spec is final I don't see how you can have a

[jira] Resolved: (DERBY-1183) Client java.sql.ResultSet.getCursorName() does not return the correct cursor name for Statements after the first execution

2006-06-23 Thread Knut Anders Hatlen (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1183?page=all ] Knut Anders Hatlen resolved DERBY-1183: --- Resolution: Fixed Dag, I made two changes to your last patch before committing. 1) A couple of println statements had been added to

[jira] Resolved: (DERBY-1036) Embedded and client differ with regard to Statement.setCursor Name. client will disallow duplicate cursor names. Embedded will allow it.

2006-06-23 Thread Knut Anders Hatlen (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1036?page=all ] Knut Anders Hatlen resolved DERBY-1036: --- Fix Version: 10.2.0.0 Resolution: Fixed Dag's patch for DERBY-1183 and this issue committed into trunk with revision 416661.

[jira] Assigned: (DERBY-734) lang/closed.java fails in 50% of runs

2006-06-23 Thread Kristian Waagan (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-734?page=all ] Kristian Waagan reassigned DERBY-734: - Assign To: Kristian Waagan lang/closed.java fails in 50% of runs - Key: DERBY-734 URL:

[jira] Updated: (DERBY-734) lang/closed.java fails in 50% of runs

2006-06-23 Thread Kristian Waagan (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-734?page=all ] Kristian Waagan updated DERBY-734: -- Attachment: derby-734.diff derby-734.stat 'derby-734.diff' fixes the failure for test 'lang/closed.java'. The problem was incorrect

[jira] Updated: (DERBY-734) lang/closed.java fails in 50% of runs

2006-06-23 Thread Kristian Waagan (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-734?page=all ] Kristian Waagan updated DERBY-734: -- Priority: Minor (was: Major) Derby Info: [Patch Available] lang/closed.java fails in 50% of runs -

[jira] Updated: (DERBY-1444) Using -Djvmflags option causes NoClassDefFoundError

2006-06-23 Thread JIRA
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1444?page=all ] Vemund Østgaard updated DERBY-1444: --- Attachment: 1444-diff Tiny one-line fix that resolves the problem when running with Suns jdk, by not adding around the jvmflags. Using -Djvmflags

[jira] Updated: (DERBY-1444) Using -Djvmflags option causes NoClassDefFoundError

2006-06-23 Thread JIRA
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1444?page=all ] Vemund Østgaard updated DERBY-1444: --- Attachment: 1444-diff.stat Using -Djvmflags option causes NoClassDefFoundError --- Key:

[jira] Closed: (DERBY-1314) Differences between client and embedded when invoking stored procedures using Statement.executeUpdate()

2006-06-23 Thread Knut Anders Hatlen (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1314?page=all ] Knut Anders Hatlen closed DERBY-1314: - Fix Version: 10.2.0.0 Resolution: Fixed Committed revision 416696. Differences between client and embedded when invoking stored

[jira] Assigned: (DERBY-1364) Client driver does not roll back the effects of a stored procedure when incorrectly invoked by executeQuery()/executeUpdate()

2006-06-23 Thread Knut Anders Hatlen (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1364?page=all ] Knut Anders Hatlen reassigned DERBY-1364: - Assign To: Knut Anders Hatlen Client driver does not roll back the effects of a stored procedure when incorrectly invoked by

[jira] Commented: (DERBY-1275) Provide a way to enable client tracing without changing the application

2006-06-23 Thread Kathey Marsden (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1275?page=comments#action_12417481 ] Kathey Marsden commented on DERBY-1275: --- Would there be any objections if for now I just added recognition of these two system properties: derby.client.traceLevel -

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Kathey Marsden
[snip lot's of interesting legal conversation that I can't keep up with] To me, the core question for the Derby community is do we want to interject an extended commercial external dependency into our release cycle. To that I vote -1. It seems contrary to the Apache Way and all that

[jira] Commented: (DERBY-1445) Add new streaming overloads and modify some existing ones.

2006-06-23 Thread Knut Anders Hatlen (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1445?page=comments#action_12417495 ] Knut Anders Hatlen commented on DERBY-1445: --- Hi Narayanan, It seems like your editor has eight character tabs, so your indentation doesn't always match the

[jira] Commented: (DERBY-1275) Provide a way to enable client tracing without changing the application

2006-06-23 Thread Knut Anders Hatlen (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1275?page=comments#action_12417497 ] Knut Anders Hatlen commented on DERBY-1275: --- Hi Kathey, I think your approach sounds reasonable. It is definitely good to have some simple way (documented or

[jira] Assigned: (DERBY-802) OutofMemory Error when reading large blob when statement type is ResultSet.TYPE_SCROLL_INSENSITIVE

2006-06-23 Thread Andreas Korneliussen (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-802?page=all ] Andreas Korneliussen reassigned DERBY-802: -- Assign To: Andreas Korneliussen OutofMemory Error when reading large blob when statement type is ResultSet.TYPE_SCROLL_INSENSITIVE

[jira] Commented: (DERBY-802) OutofMemory Error when reading large blob when statement type is ResultSet.TYPE_SCROLL_INSENSITIVE

2006-06-23 Thread Andreas Korneliussen (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-802?page=comments#action_12417500 ] Andreas Korneliussen commented on DERBY-802: The problem here is caused by ScrollInsensitiveResultSet doing a clone of the rows before inserting the into the

[jira] Updated: (DERBY-1445) Add new streaming overloads and modify some existing ones.

2006-06-23 Thread Rick Hillegas (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1445?page=all ] Rick Hillegas updated DERBY-1445: - Description: The task involves Adding and modifying the following methods, which were recently added by the JDBC4 expert group and which appeared in Mustang

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Andreas Korneliussen
Jean T. Anderson wrote: David posted a good summary of the legal catch-22 at [1]. But the shortest story is: + Mustang wants to ship a GA Derby 10.2, which supports JDBC 4.0. + Derby can't ship a GA 10.2 until JDBC 4.0 is GA, which is with Mustang. Let's keep this thread confined to the JCP

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Jean T. Anderson
Andreas Korneliussen wrote: Jean T. Anderson wrote: David posted a good summary of the legal catch-22 at [1]. But the shortest story is: + Mustang wants to ship a GA Derby 10.2, which supports JDBC 4.0. + Derby can't ship a GA 10.2 until JDBC 4.0 is GA, which is with Mustang. Let's

[jira] Created: (DERBY-1446) Derby can enter infinite loop and consume 100% cpu when loading class when running a stored procedure within Eclipse 3.2

2006-06-23 Thread Kathey Marsden (JIRA)
Derby can enter infinite loop and consume 100% cpu when loading class when running a stored procedure within Eclipse 3.2 -- Key: DERBY-1446 URL:

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Daniel John Debrunner
Andrew McIntyre wrote: So, I can see any of the following things as possibilities: 1) The Derby community could release a 10.2.1.x minus the JDBC 4 bits whenever it likes. Maybe even next week. :-) -1 The plan of record has been (and continues to be) shipping a 10.2 Derby GA after Mustang

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Daniel John Debrunner
Jean T. Anderson wrote: Andreas Korneliussen wrote: As for alpha/beta bits: they should not be set on a release candidate. The vetted bits are the final bits if the community votes for the release. As far as I know, they were not set on the recently rejected 10.1.3 RC. The 10.1 (in fact any)

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Andreas Korneliussen
Jean T. Anderson wrote: Andreas Korneliussen wrote: Jean T. Anderson wrote: David posted a good summary of the legal catch-22 at [1]. But the shortest story is: + Mustang wants to ship a GA Derby 10.2, which supports JDBC 4.0. + Derby can't ship a GA 10.2 until JDBC 4.0 is GA, which is

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Andreas Korneliussen
and does the close of the successful vote mark the change to GA? Seems it's the only logical point, the announce and distribution via the mirrors are just action items after the GA decision is made. The vote could be to go GA on a specific date. Andreas Dan.

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread David Van Couvering
Andrew, thanks for putting in your time and research for this discussion. Andrew McIntyre wrote: [snip] So, I can see any of the following things as possibilities: 1) The Derby community could release a 10.2.1.x minus the JDBC 4 bits whenever it likes. Maybe even next week. :-) 2) Sun

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Jean T. Anderson
Andreas Korneliussen wrote: Jean T. Anderson wrote: ... Can Derby legally build an RC with the GA bits set before JDBC 4.0 is GA? --Understanding that the RC will be readily available to anyone to download? This legal issue needs to get resolved. In this case, it is Rick (the release

Re: [jira] Commented: (DERBY-1275) Provide a way to enable client tracing without changing the application

2006-06-23 Thread Sunitha Kambhampati
Kathey Marsden (JIRA) wrote: [ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1275?page=comments#action_12417481 ] Kathey Marsden commented on DERBY-1275: --- Would there be any objections if for now I just added recognition of these two system

Re: Copyright format (was Re: [jira] Updated: (DERBY-1271) Release documentation for JDBC4 release)

2006-06-23 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Jean, I have uploaded a new patch which amends the copyrights to this: Copyright 1997, 2006 The Apache Software Foundation or its licensors, as applicable. In addition, I have removed the Edition lines, whose meaning no-one seems to understand. Do these edits seem acceptable to you?

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Jean T. Anderson
Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: Nice post. Comments inline : Andrew McIntyre wrote: ... So, I can see any of the following things as possibilities: 1) The Derby community could release a 10.2.1.x minus the JDBC 4 bits whenever it likes. Maybe even next week. :-) 2) Sun releases a version of Derby

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Daniel John Debrunner
David Van Couvering wrote: What happened to the proposal to vote and approve a GA-enabled release, but not make it actually available until Java SE 6 goes GA? Did we decide this was not feasible? I may have missed it, but I don't think I saw that discussion anywhere. That is the discussion

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Andrew McIntyre
On 6/23/06, Jean T. Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Korneliussen wrote: Jean T. Anderson wrote: In this case, it is Rick (the release manager) who builds the RC, and who makes it available before JDBC4 goes GA. I guess it would be up to him to take the legal responsibility. The

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Jean T. Anderson
David Van Couvering wrote: Andrew, thanks for putting in your time and research for this discussion. Andrew McIntyre wrote: ... What happened to the proposal to vote and approve a GA-enabled release, but not make it actually available until Java SE 6 goes GA? Did we decide this was not

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Andrew McIntyre
On 6/23/06, David Van Couvering [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What happened to the proposal to vote and approve a GA-enabled release, but not make it actually available until Java SE 6 goes GA? Did we decide this was not feasible? I may have missed it, but I don't think I saw that discussion

[jira] Updated: (DERBY-1446) Derby can enter infinite loop and consume 100% cpu when loading class when running a stored procedure within Eclipse 3.2

2006-06-23 Thread Kathey Marsden (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1446?page=all ] Kathey Marsden updated DERBY-1446: -- Attachment: derbyspruntestx.zip plugin to add RUN Stored Procedure action Derby can enter infinite loop and consume 100% cpu when loading class when

[jira] Updated: (DERBY-1446) Derby can enter infinite loop and consume 100% cpu when loading class when running a stored procedure within Eclipse 3.2

2006-06-23 Thread Kathey Marsden (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1446?page=all ] Kathey Marsden updated DERBY-1446: -- Attachment: stacktrace.txt stack trace Derby can enter infinite loop and consume 100% cpu when loading class when running a stored procedure within

Re: Copyright format (was Re: [jira] Updated: (DERBY-1271) Release documentation for JDBC4 release)

2006-06-23 Thread Jean T. Anderson
Rick Hillegas wrote: Hi Jean, I have uploaded a new patch which amends the copyrights to this: Copyright 1997, 2006 The Apache Software Foundation or its licensors, as applicable. In addition, I have removed the Edition lines, whose meaning no-one seems to understand. Do these

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Kathey Marsden
David Van Couvering wrote: What happened to the proposal to vote and approve a GA-enabled release, but not make it actually available until Java SE 6 goes GA? Did we decide this was not feasible? I may have missed it, but I don't think I saw that discussion anywhere. This was my comment

[jira] Commented: (DERBY-1444) Using -Djvmflags option causes NoClassDefFoundError

2006-06-23 Thread Myrna van Lunteren (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1444?page=comments#action_12417530 ] Myrna van Lunteren commented on DERBY-1444: --- Actually, this problem happens with ibm jvms also. I also think this fix might be worth backporting to 10.1.3 for a

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Andrew McIntyre
On 6/23/06, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, I can see any of the following things as possibilities: 1) The Derby community could release a 10.2.1.x minus the JDBC 4 bits whenever it likes. Maybe even next week. :-) 2) Sun releases a version of Derby with JDK 1.6 that reports

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Andrew McIntyre
On 6/23/06, Daniel John Debrunner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew McIntyre wrote: So, I can see any of the following things as possibilities: 1) The Derby community could release a 10.2.1.x minus the JDBC 4 bits whenever it likes. Maybe even next week. :-) -1 The plan of record has been

Re: Copyright format (was Re: [jira] Updated: (DERBY-1271) Release documentation for JDBC4 release)

2006-06-23 Thread Andrew McIntyre
On 6/23/06, Jean T. Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick Hillegas wrote: Hi Jean, I have uploaded a new patch which amends the copyrights to this: Copyright 1997, 2006 The Apache Software Foundation or its licensors, as applicable. In addition, I have removed the Edition lines, whose

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Daniel John Debrunner
Andrew McIntyre wrote: Looks like, barring clarification by Sun what the spec license means concerning applications that implement interfaces in a non-final JSR, even in their own namespace, the Derby community shouldn't do anything regarding a release with JDBC 4 - i would say not even post

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Andreas Korneliussen
Andrew McIntyre wrote: On 6/23/06, Jean T. Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Korneliussen wrote: Jean T. Anderson wrote: In this case, it is Rick (the release manager) who builds the RC, and who makes it available before JDBC4 goes GA. I guess it would be up to him to take the

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread David Van Couvering
Hi, Kathey. I understand your concerns, and I think they're important, but I do want to make sure we distinguish two separate issues. The first issue is around the JCP. This has nothing to do with a company's release schedule. It has to do with the fact that we as a community wanted to

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Daniel John Debrunner
Andreas Korneliussen wrote: Anyone can check out the Derby source tree, and build a derby with the GA bit set at any time. If anyone does that, it clearly does not mean that Derby has gone GA with JDBC4, and that the community is held legally responsible. It might depend on if they had to

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Kathey Marsden
Daniel John Debrunner wrote: Looks like, barring clarification by Sun what the spec license means concerning applications that implement interfaces in a non-final JSR, even in their own namespace, the Derby community shouldn't do anything regarding a release with JDBC 4 - i would say not

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Andrew McIntyre
On 6/23/06, Andreas Korneliussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew McIntyre wrote: On 6/23/06, Jean T. Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Korneliussen wrote: Jean T. Anderson wrote: In this case, it is Rick (the release manager) who builds the RC, and who makes it available

[jira] Commented: (DERBY-1271) Release documentation for JDBC4 release

2006-06-23 Thread Rick Hillegas (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1271?page=comments#action_12417542 ] Rick Hillegas commented on DERBY-1271: -- Committed derby-1271_copyrights_v02.diff at subversion revision 416790. Release documentation for JDBC4 release

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Daniel John Debrunner
Kathey Marsden wrote: I know I do and I think it is good to facilitate it with a plan like this, but not to be held hostage by it by creating a special not GA for anyone but Sun release. Well put. Dan.

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Jean T. Anderson
Andreas Korneliussen wrote: ... Anyone can check out the Derby source tree, and build a derby with the GA bit set at any time. If anyone does that, it clearly does not mean that Derby has gone GA with JDBC4, and that the community is held legally responsible. Anyone can build Derby, yes.

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Jean T. Anderson
Andrew McIntyre wrote: On 6/23/06, Andreas Korneliussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I responded to this part of your post, and wanted to clarify that Derby does not build the RC, it is the RM who does it. Yes, because it is the RM as an individual that ultimately builds and publishes the

Proposed Solutoin ( Was Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue)

2006-06-23 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Andrew McIntyre wrote: On 6/23/06, David Van Couvering [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What happened to the proposal to vote and approve a GA-enabled release, but not make it actually available until Java SE 6 goes GA? Did we decide this was not feasible? I may have missed it, but I don't think I

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Andreas Korneliussen wrote: Andrew McIntyre wrote: On 6/23/06, Jean T. Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Korneliussen wrote: Jean T. Anderson wrote: In this case, it is Rick (the release manager) who builds the RC, and who makes it available before JDBC4 goes GA. I guess it

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Andrew McIntyre wrote: On 6/23/06, Andreas Korneliussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew McIntyre wrote: On 6/23/06, Jean T. Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Korneliussen wrote: Jean T. Anderson wrote: In this case, it is Rick (the release manager) who builds the RC,

Re: Proposed Solutoin ( Was Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue)

2006-06-23 Thread Jean T. Anderson
Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: snipped interesting stuff to show just the end solution While I'd just chuck JDBC4 myself, that doesn't work for Sun. So I did come up with one solution : 1) Have Sun change the draft spec license for 221 from the current to the new one that allows distribution

Re: Proposed Solutoin ( Was Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue)

2006-06-23 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Update - a slight modification to #1 would be for the upcoming proposed final draft to be under the new license. (Source of this suggestion shall remain nameless) That way no unnatural acts have to be done to an already-released draft. geir Jean T. Anderson wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:

Re: Proposed Solutoin ( Was Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue)

2006-06-23 Thread Jean T. Anderson
Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: Update - a slight modification to #1 would be for the upcoming proposed final draft to be under the new license. (Source of this suggestion shall remain nameless) That way no unnatural acts have to be done to an already-released draft. Whatever works for both Apache

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Andreas Korneliussen
True. But we're not talking about just anybody. If a member of the Derby community does put together a release candidate (that would need to report itself as a GA version) and publishes it on a website for others to vote on, then the community could be held responsible. For what? As far as

Re: Proposed Solutoin ( Was Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue)

2006-06-23 Thread Andrew McIntyre
On 6/23/06, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) Have Sun change the draft spec license for 221 from the current to the new one that allows distribution with appropriate warning markings. I'm going to start working this line w/ the PMO and the JCP. 2) Reject Mark Reinhold's curious

[jira] Commented: (DERBY-955) Get derbyall on jdk1.6

2006-06-23 Thread Knut Anders Hatlen (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-955?page=comments#action_12417553 ] Knut Anders Hatlen commented on DERBY-955: -- I plan to review and commit Olav's patch. If someone has comments or is planning to review, please let me know. Thanks!

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Andrew McIntyre
On 6/23/06, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew McIntyre wrote: Yes, because it is the RM as an individual that ultimately builds and publishes the release as an official Apache release on behalf of the ASF. Absolutely not. Right, I know I should have put the PMC in there,

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Daniel John Debrunner
Andrew McIntyre wrote: For violating the JSPA or the spec evaluation agreement as far as creating/distributing an implementation, which is where people got the idea that we couldn't publish a GA version of Derby that had JDBC 4.0 bits in it. Although it appears we've now determined that

[jira] Created: (DERBY-1447) add command line history to ij

2006-06-23 Thread Gary Orser (JIRA)
add command line history to ij -- Key: DERBY-1447 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1447 Project: Derby Type: Improvement Components: Tools Reporter: Gary Orser Priority: Minor Using the command line tool

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Andrew McIntyre
On 6/23/06, Daniel John Debrunner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew McIntyre wrote: For violating the JSPA or the spec evaluation agreement as far as creating/distributing an implementation, which is where people got the idea that we couldn't publish a GA version of Derby that had JDBC 4.0

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Daniel John Debrunner
Andrew McIntyre wrote: On 6/23/06, Daniel John Debrunner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew McIntyre wrote: For violating the JSPA or the spec evaluation agreement as far as creating/distributing an implementation, which is where people got the idea that we couldn't publish a GA version

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Andrew McIntyre wrote: On 6/23/06, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew McIntyre wrote: Yes, because it is the RM as an individual that ultimately builds and publishes the release as an official Apache release on behalf of the ASF. Absolutely not. Right, I know I

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Andrew McIntyre
On 6/23/06, Daniel John Debrunner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In #2 of his proposed solution, Geir said he doesn't believe that Derby qualifies as an implementation, and thus would not be affected by the JSPA. I thought Geir's proposed solution was predicated on item 1) Geir wrote: 1) Have

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Andrew McIntyre wrote: On 6/23/06, Daniel John Debrunner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew McIntyre wrote: For violating the JSPA or the spec evaluation agreement as far as creating/distributing an implementation, which is where people got the idea that we couldn't publish a GA version

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Andrew McIntyre
On 6/23/06, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The key is #1. Get it so that you can actually distribute an impl w/ proper labeling, and then consider the JDBC4 functionality just one minor feature in a much bigger codebase. Then, since Derby isn't an implementation of JDBC4, but

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Andrew McIntyre wrote: On 6/23/06, Daniel John Debrunner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In #2 of his proposed solution, Geir said he doesn't believe that Derby qualifies as an implementation, and thus would not be affected by the JSPA. I thought Geir's proposed solution was predicated on

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Lance J. Andersen
Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: Andrew McIntyre wrote: On 6/23/06, Daniel John Debrunner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In #2 of his proposed solution, Geir said he doesn't believe that Derby qualifies as an implementation, and thus would not be affected by the

Re: catch-22: Derby, Mustang, and JCP issue

2006-06-23 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
I'm _hoping_ there aren't holes here. Seems like a reasonable solution... Andrew McIntyre wrote: On 6/23/06, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The key is #1. Get it so that you can actually distribute an impl w/ proper labeling, and then consider the JDBC4 functionality just one

[jira] Updated: (DERBY-1447) add command line history to ij

2006-06-23 Thread Gary Orser (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1447?page=all ] Gary Orser updated DERBY-1447: -- Attachment: jline.diff jline-0_9_5.jar jline has a BSD license. I think that is compatible with the Apache license. add command line history to

[jira] Created: (DERBY-1448) derbynet/sysinfo.java fails with 10.1 client and 10.2 server

2006-06-23 Thread Deepa Remesh (JIRA)
derbynet/sysinfo.java fails with 10.1 client and 10.2 server Key: DERBY-1448 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1448 Project: Derby Type: Test Components: Test Environment:

[jira] Created: (DERBY-1449) checkDataSource tests fail with 10.1 client and 10.2 server

2006-06-23 Thread Deepa Remesh (JIRA)
checkDataSource tests fail with 10.1 client and 10.2 server --- Key: DERBY-1449 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1449 Project: Derby Type: Test Versions: 10.2.0.0, 10.1.3.0 Environment:

[jira] Created: (DERBY-1450) jdbcapi/parameterMetaDataJdbc30.java fails with 10.1 client and 10.2 server

2006-06-23 Thread Deepa Remesh (JIRA)
jdbcapi/parameterMetaDataJdbc30.java fails with 10.1 client and 10.2 server --- Key: DERBY-1450 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1450 Project: Derby Type: Test Versions:

[jira] Created: (DERBY-1451) wisconsin.sql, setTransactionIsolation.java and scrollCursors1.sql fail with 10.1 client and 10.2 server

2006-06-23 Thread Deepa Remesh (JIRA)
wisconsin.sql, setTransactionIsolation.java and scrollCursors1.sql fail with 10.1 client and 10.2 server Key: DERBY-1451 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1451

[jira] Created: (DERBY-1452) jdbcapi/resultset.java fails with 10.1 client and 10.2 server

2006-06-23 Thread Deepa Remesh (JIRA)
jdbcapi/resultset.java fails with 10.1 client and 10.2 server - Key: DERBY-1452 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1452 Project: Derby Type: Test Versions: 10.2.0.0, 10.1.3.0

[jira] Created: (DERBY-1453) jdbcapi/blobclob4BLOB.java fails with 10.1 client and 10.2 server

2006-06-23 Thread Deepa Remesh (JIRA)
jdbcapi/blobclob4BLOB.java fails with 10.1 client and 10.2 server - Key: DERBY-1453 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1453 Project: Derby Type: Test Versions: 10.1.3.0, 10.2.0.0

Question about splitQRYDTA and offbyone error message.

2006-06-23 Thread Sunitha Kambhampati
Hello All, I have been working on a user issue and they are hitting a disconnect error. The server is disconnecting the client connection. Client is sending a CNTQRY, the server is receiving it and then server disconnects the client. When I start the server, after a while, I see the

[jira] Commented: (DERBY-1301) Improve streaming of large objects for network server and client,from client to server

2006-06-23 Thread Tomohito Nakayama (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1301?page=comments#action_12417580 ] Tomohito Nakayama commented on DERBY-1301: -- I found that implementation of streaming at driver side have much of code for encryption. I need to survey spec of