Re: Discussion of how to map the recovery time into Xmb of log --Checkpoint issue

2006-02-03 Thread Mike Matrigali
You are seeing the same results as Oystein reported as part of DERBY-799. If no one submits a patch for DERBY-799 I will probably submit something simple before the next candidate release is cut. Something on the order of sleeping in between I/O's to stop checkpoint from flooding I/O. Kristian

Re: Discussion of how to map the recovery time into Xmb of log --Checkpoint issue

2006-02-02 Thread Kristian Waagan
Mike Matrigali wrote: Long answer above, some comments inline below. I think runtime performance would be optimal in this case, runtime performance is in no way "helped" by having checkpoints - only either not affected or hindered. As has been noted checkpoints can cause drastic downward

Re: Discussion of how to map the recovery time into Xmb of log --Checkpoint issue

2006-02-01 Thread Mike Matrigali
I think this is the right path, though would need more details: o does boot mean first time boot for each db? o how to determine this machine o and the total time to run such a test. There are some very quick and useful tests that would be fine to add to the default system and do one time per

Re: Discussion of how to map the recovery time into Xmb of log --Checkpoint issue

2006-02-01 Thread Mike Matrigali
Long answer above, some comments inline below. I think runtime performance would be optimal in this case, runtime performance is in no way helped by having checkpoints - only either not affected or hindered. As has been noted checkpoints can cause drastic downward spikes in some disk bound

Re: Discussion of how to map the recovery time into Xmb of log --Checkpoint issue

2006-01-31 Thread Raymond Raymond
Mike, Last time we discussed about how to map the recovery time into Xmb of log. I have been thinking on it recently and have a proposal. How about when the very first time derby boots (not every time) on a certain machine, we let the user to chose whether he (or she) want to do some

Re: Discussion of how to map the recovery time into Xmb of log --Checkpoint issue

2006-01-25 Thread Raymond Raymond
Mike, last time you gave me some comments about how to map the recovery time into Xmb of log. I still have some question about it. RR2. During initilization of Derby, we run some measurement that RR determines the performance of the system and maps the RR recovery time into some

Re: Discussion of how to map the recovery time into Xmb of log --Checkpoint issue

2006-01-25 Thread Mike Matrigali
Raymond Raymond wrote: Mike, last time you gave me some comments about how to map the recovery time into Xmb of log. I still have some question about it. RR2. During initilization of Derby, we run some measurement that RR determines the performance of the system and maps the RR

Re: Discussion of how to map the recovery time into Xmb of log --Checkpoint issue

2006-01-21 Thread Raymond Raymond
Mike, thank you for you comments. They really help me a lot. I would like to make more discussion on the issue. RR2. During initilization of Derby, we run some measurement that RR determines the performance of the system and maps the RR recovery time into some X megabytes of log.

Discussion of how to map the recovery time into Xmb of log --Checkpoint issue

2006-01-19 Thread Raymond Raymond
At the end of last year, I discussed something about how to automatically decide the checkpoint interval with Oystein and Mike. Now, I am trying to implement it. As what we discussed before, I write an outline of what I am going to do. 1. Let the users to set a certain acceptable recovery time