Re: [libreoffice-design] Topic for design team to investigate: Content hosting consolidation on ask.libreoffice.org

2018-10-12 Thread toki
On 10/12/18 8:05 PM, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > site is already capable to host templates, and allows some of the things > missing on the current extension site. Until/unless the search function on ask.libreoffice is fixed, migrating there is going to ensure that absolutely, positively ensure

RE : Re: [libreoffice-design] Topic for design team to investigate: Content hosting consolidation on ask.libreoffice.org

2018-10-12 Thread sophie
Hivall Message d'origine De : Bjoern Michaelsen Date : 12/10/2018 22:05 (GMT+01:00) À : "Maarten Brouwers (murb)" Cc : Miguel Ángel Ríos Vázquez , design@global.libreoffice.org Objet : Re: [libreoffice-design] Topic for design team to investigate: Content

Re: [libreoffice-design] Topic for design team to investigate: Content hosting consolidation on ask.libreoffice.org

2018-10-12 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 06:18:24PM +0200, Maarten Brouwers (murb) wrote: > From what I can see now: adapting ask.libreoffice.org > requires way more effort to turn it into a > proper extension-site than either adapting the current extensions-site or > adopting an

Re: [libreoffice-design] Topic for design team to investigate: Content hosting consolidation on ask.libreoffice.org

2018-10-12 Thread toki
On 10/12/18 11:36 AM, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > The second question then is how to get that metadata. E.g. the license has to > be in the extension itself. So why bothering to ask the uploader about it, > possibly causing even mismatched metadata, because the manual entry had a > different value

Re: [libreoffice-design] Topic for design team to investigate: Content hosting consolidation on ask.libreoffice.org

2018-10-12 Thread toki
On 10/12/18 9:28 AM, kainz.a wrote: > Template contributor: Share his template, don't care about LibO version As a template contributor, in theory, I'm not concerned about the specific version of LibO that is used. Two of the templates I've uploaded, haven't been broken by changes within LibO.

Re: [libreoffice-design] Topic for design team to investigate: Content hosting consolidation on ask.libreoffice.org

2018-10-12 Thread MiguelAngel
Hi Bjoern, I have been at ask since the beginning, so let me think that I can talk with some knowledge. Is it successful? Apparently maybe, many users is the only place they know. But many people remains in the AOo forums specially volunteers because don't like Ask. For me Its usability

Re: [libreoffice-design] Topic for design team to investigate: Content hosting consolidation on ask.libreoffice.org

2018-10-12 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 04:45:51PM +0200, kainz.a wrote: > When I look at popular webpages where you can share your content like image > webpages, openclipart, ... they are all very simple. > [...] > The page can be used for extensions, templates, documentations, ... Yes. So Im going to

Re: [libreoffice-design] Topic for design team to investigate: Content hosting consolidation on ask.libreoffice.org

2018-10-12 Thread kainz.a
When I look at popular webpages where you can share your content like image webpages, openclipart, ... they are all very simple. One overview page with Screenshots and description how is the developer and categories. Upload page with uploader, title, description, category and licence. Maybe

Re: [libreoffice-design] Topic for design team to investigate: Content hosting consolidation on ask.libreoffice.org

2018-10-12 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi Maarten, On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 02:06:54PM +0200, Maarten Brouwers (murb) wrote: > What about adapting Mozilla’s extension-site? So lets phrase the problem differently: We are not lacking tools or platforms. We are lacking volunteers to maintain, develop and moderate on platforms. So if you

Re: [libreoffice-design] Topic for design team to investigate: Content hosting consolidation on ask.libreoffice.org

2018-10-12 Thread Maarten Brouwers (murb)
What about adapting Mozilla’s extension-site? From an and-user’s perspective I think they’ve well figured out how such site should work, at least from a consumer’s perspective. Adopting a Q/A site for something that allows for a structured presentation of an extension looks like turning a bus

Re: [libreoffice-design] Topic for design team to investigate: Content hosting consolidation on ask.libreoffice.org

2018-10-12 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 01:06:41PM +0200, Cor Nouws wrote: > Bjoern Michaelsen wrote on 12-10-18 12:08: > > > Yes, please. That document is already exploring the rarest cornercases: > > > > - Bookkeeping a bazillion entries of metadata shouldnt be an end to itself: > > The webpage should

Re: [libreoffice-design] Topic for design team to investigate: Content hosting consolidation on ask.libreoffice.org

2018-10-12 Thread Cor Nouws
Bjoern Michaelsen wrote on 12-10-18 12:08: > Yes, please. That document is already exploring the rarest cornercases: > > - Bookkeeping a bazillion entries of metadata shouldnt be an end to itself: > The webpage should handle metadata about extensions, if there is a > reasonable > usecase

Re: [libreoffice-design] Topic for design team to investigate: Content hosting consolidation on ask.libreoffice.org

2018-10-12 Thread MiguelAngel
https://planet.documentfoundation.org/ October 11/2018 Andreas comment about, nothing else to say. Miguel Ángel. El 12/10/18 a las 11:28, kainz.a escribió: HI, for the basic UX there are still some ideas from the design team

Re: [libreoffice-design] Topic for design team to investigate: Content hosting consolidation on ask.libreoffice.org

2018-10-12 Thread Heiko Tietze
On 10/12/18 11:59 AM, Cor Nouws wrote: > kainz.a wrote on 12-10-18 11:28: >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12dbdmzi3dy5TwNsIao0MXZSnl7X4jMk5zKwy8Azeohg > > It is an interesting mixture of really useful stuff and some overkill - > IMO. Just as the current site. It _was_ a description of the

Re: [libreoffice-design] Topic for design team to investigate: Content hosting consolidation on ask.libreoffice.org

2018-10-12 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 12:08:32PM +0200, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > So in fact, half of the features in the google doc should be moved aside for > really, really pinning down a simple workflow for those 99% of uploaders that > wrote some single revision StarBasic or Python extension on their

Re: [libreoffice-design] Topic for design team to investigate: Content hosting consolidation on ask.libreoffice.org

2018-10-12 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 11:28:08AM +0200, kainz.a wrote: > for the basic UX there are still some ideas from the design team > https://docs.google.com/document/d/12dbdmzi3dy5TwNsIao0MXZSnl7X4jMk5zKwy8Azeohg > (sorry that it is on gdocs) Commented. > And please keep it simple. Yes, please. That

Re: [libreoffice-design] Topic for design team to investigate: Content hosting consolidation on ask.libreoffice.org

2018-10-12 Thread Cor Nouws
kainz.a wrote on 12-10-18 11:28: > for the basic UX there are still some ideas from the design team > https://docs.google.com/document/d/12dbdmzi3dy5TwNsIao0MXZSnl7X4jMk5zKwy8Azeohg > (sorry that it is on gdocs) It is an interesting mixture of really useful stuff and some overkill - IMO. Just as

Re: [libreoffice-design] Topic for design team to investigate: Content hosting consolidation on ask.libreoffice.org

2018-10-12 Thread kainz.a
HI, for the basic UX there are still some ideas from the design team https://docs.google.com/document/d/12dbdmzi3dy5TwNsIao0MXZSnl7X4jMk5zKwy8Azeohg (sorry that it is on gdocs) I also want to say if we have an good extension layout for templates it can be used also for the documentation webpage

Re: [libreoffice-design] Topic for design team to investigate: Content hosting consolidation on ask.libreoffice.org

2018-10-12 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 08:23:52AM +0200, kainz.a wrote: > For me templates and extension didn't have the same "developer" group. > extensions should have ongoing releases so a git orientated workflow is > more usefull. The source of a lot extensions are on githab or gitlab, ... > Templates

Re: [libreoffice-design] Topic for design team to investigate: Content hosting consolidation on ask.libreoffice.org

2018-10-12 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 09:16:34PM -0300, Daniel A. Rodriguez wrote: > So, if the problems are well known and no platform cover all the > project needs, what about a tender to get something from scratch? That would broaden the scope of this in major way and increase the change of failure: If

Re: [libreoffice-design] Topic for design team to investigate: Content hosting consolidation on ask.libreoffice.org

2018-10-12 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 09:27:09PM -0300, Ricardo Dos Santos wrote: > Is there a possibility of an adaptation of the pages and continue using > Plone? > Or the effort does not pay? In theory, you can build pretty much anything on any platform or language. In practice, the available

Re: [libreoffice-design] Topic for design team to investigate: Content hosting consolidation on ask.libreoffice.org

2018-10-12 Thread Miguel Ángel Ríos Vázquez
Can we really think about using Ask for that? My impression is that it is not even very well accepted as a forum. Not an example of success. For me the current web of extensions looks and works well enough. And on the other hand we could be more thankful with the volunteer work of the

Re: [libreoffice-design] Topic for design team to investigate: Content hosting consolidation on ask.libreoffice.org

2018-10-12 Thread kainz.a
Hi, first thanks for ask the question about the extension webpage. And thanks to Andi that he maintain the page since a long time now. I'm always for concentrate stuff as it's easier to maintain and easier for people to use. For me templates and extension didn't have the same "developer" group.