Re: [libreoffice-design] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2017-Jan-12

[Pedro Rosmaninho]

Why don'tyou ask for help of the KDE guys to make a new colored Breeze
theme? They've created a bunch of colored icons to use on desktop maybe LO
could use something similar?
Or ask them for help to change the icons to increase legibility so that it
can be adopted as the default theme in Windows? The adoption rate of W10
has been quite big and occured very fast so adopting a theme that suits it
better than to legacy W7 with an ever decreasing market share would make
sense...

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 1:22 PM, kainz.a  wrote:

> Hi
>
> 2017-01-12 14:03 GMT+01:00 Heiko Tietze :
>
> > Present: Jay, Tomazs, Kendy, Steve, Heiko
> >
> > Tickets
> >
> >  * Make Breeze the default icon set on Windows
> >+ https://pirati.ca/display/a6551d712873888e843e54a74a8e772a61684afd
> >+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90194
> >+ https://plus.google.com/107566594492891737454/posts/H6W86P19atW
> >  + 60% Yes after one day
> >+ Yes (Tomazs)
> >+ No, because Breeze is not enough colorful and too thin (Jay, Kendy,
> > Heiko)
> >/keep it for now
> >
>
> In Win 7 tango fit's well. I don't know how it will fit in Win 10.
> I can't change the breeze icon geometry, but as everything is svg,
> color changing wouldn't be a problem to fit windows better.
>
>
> >  * Installer icon
> >(last week)
> >+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103677
> >  https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/
> > attachment.cgi?id=128467
> >+ Double-check if ico contains multiple images (Jay)
> >+ Tango is not really up-to-date and not suitable for Windows (Jay)
> >+ See what other installers use (Jay)
> >+ Revert change like Stuart mentioned (Jay)
> >+ Let's check other installers and decide next week what to do (Heiko)
> >(this week)
> >+ Andreas' solution is good (Kendy)
> >+ leave it as it is as the default is very close to what we have (Jay)
> >/ Make a test first with a nightly build that contains Andreas'
> > solution (Kendy)
> >
>
> I used tango icons for the installer, cause the installer is for windows
> and tango is the default icon set, so the default design language for
> windows.
>
> I can also make a proposal for another design language (breeze, galaxy,
> sifr, ...)
> but I wouldn't prefer to have an installer icon that fit's any LO design
> language.
> So say what you want and I will have a look if I can make it happen.
>
> cheers
> Andreas K
>
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Re: [libreoffice-design] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2017-Jan-12

[kainz.a]

Hi

2017-01-12 14:03 GMT+01:00 Heiko Tietze :

> Present: Jay, Tomazs, Kendy, Steve, Heiko
>
> Tickets
>
>  * Make Breeze the default icon set on Windows
>+ https://pirati.ca/display/a6551d712873888e843e54a74a8e772a61684afd
>+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90194
>+ https://plus.google.com/107566594492891737454/posts/H6W86P19atW
>  + 60% Yes after one day
>+ Yes (Tomazs)
>+ No, because Breeze is not enough colorful and too thin (Jay, Kendy,
> Heiko)
>/keep it for now
>

In Win 7 tango fit's well. I don't know how it will fit in Win 10.
I can't change the breeze icon geometry, but as everything is svg,
color changing wouldn't be a problem to fit windows better.


>  * Installer icon
>(last week)
>+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103677
>  https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/
> attachment.cgi?id=128467
>+ Double-check if ico contains multiple images (Jay)
>+ Tango is not really up-to-date and not suitable for Windows (Jay)
>+ See what other installers use (Jay)
>+ Revert change like Stuart mentioned (Jay)
>+ Let's check other installers and decide next week what to do (Heiko)
>(this week)
>+ Andreas' solution is good (Kendy)
>+ leave it as it is as the default is very close to what we have (Jay)
>/ Make a test first with a nightly build that contains Andreas'
> solution (Kendy)
>

I used tango icons for the installer, cause the installer is for windows
and tango is the default icon set, so the default design language for
windows.

I can also make a proposal for another design language (breeze, galaxy,
sifr, ...)
but I wouldn't prefer to have an installer icon that fit's any LO design
language.
So say what you want and I will have a look if I can make it happen.

cheers
Andreas K

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[libreoffice-design] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2017-Jan-12

[Heiko Tietze]

Present: Jay, Tomazs, Kendy, Steve, Heiko

Tickets

 * Make Breeze the default icon set on Windows
   + https://pirati.ca/display/a6551d712873888e843e54a74a8e772a61684afd
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90194
   + https://plus.google.com/107566594492891737454/posts/H6W86P19atW
 + 60% Yes after one day
   + Yes (Tomazs)
   + No, because Breeze is not enough colorful and too thin (Jay, Kendy, Heiko)
   /keep it for now

 * Installer icon
   (last week)
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103677
 https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=128467
   + Double-check if ico contains multiple images (Jay)
   + Tango is not really up-to-date and not suitable for Windows (Jay)
   + See what other installers use (Jay)
   + Revert change like Stuart mentioned (Jay)
   + Let's check other installers and decide next week what to do (Heiko)
   (this week)
   + Andreas' solution is good (Kendy)
   + leave it as it is as the default is very close to what we have (Jay)
   / Make a test first with a nightly build that contains Andreas' solution 
(Kendy)

 * Button order in confirmation dialogs
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104897
   + Do we have a programmatical way to swap buttons?
   + https://www.nngroup.com/articles/ok-cancel-or-cancel-ok/
 + Windows puts Ok first, Apple puts OK last
   + Gnome and KDE uses "Save/Discard/Cancel" or "Yes/No/Cancel" sequence 
 + https://community.kde.org/KDE_Visual_Design_Group/HIG/Dialogs
 + 
http://vim-dev.vim.narkive.com/qFf5LUMj/gnome-hig-compliance-in-gvim-button-order-in-close-confirmation-dialogs-patch
   + But Gnome puts confirmation also last 
https://developer.gnome.org/hig/stable/dialogs.html.en
   + Caolan has a plan (for years); ticket is maybe a duplicate (Kendy)

 * Drop html export
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66259
   + just drop the html export options or kill the html export completely?
   + filters are working and function is useful but devs need to clean up the 
code mess (Kendy)
   + dialog is about exporting slides to images (Tomasz)
   + better go with svg export (Kendy)
   + drop the wizard (Tomasz, Kendy) (and suggest users to go with svg)
   + but keep the html export (Kendy)
   + make new single page html export an easy hack and export just slides with 
original images (Tomasz)
   + have a dialog with at least the option to export one or all pages (Heiko)
   + clean up the export(as) features in Impress/Draw (Tomasz); make it 
consistent




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