[Bug 225361] Re: Superuser cannot access ~/.gvfs folder when mounted

2008-10-23 Thread Shirish Agarwal
Hi all, 
 This is a Hardy updated/upgraded machine. I don't have anything of samba. The 
only thing I have is ntfs3-g driver which uses fuse, I think that's why I have 
.gvfs 

$ ls -ld .gvfs
dr-x-- 2 shirish shirish 0 2008-10-23 21:08 .gvfs


Ralph, this is what it shows on my system (using the logged in user)

ls -ld /home/$u{,/.gvfs}
ls: cannot access /home//.gvfs: No such file or directory
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2008-10-20 00:15 /home/

df /home/$u/.gvfs
df: `/home//.gvfs': No such file or directory
df: no file systems processed


id $u gives 
uid=1000(shirish) gid=1000(shirish) 
groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),107(fuse),109(lpadmin),115(admin),117(pulse-access),118(pulse-rt),121(netdev),1000(shirish)

Anything worthwhile therein?

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[Bug 225361] Re: Superuser cannot access ~/.gvfs folder when mounted

2008-10-23 Thread Shirish Agarwal
I ran into this bug while trying to accomplish

sudo ls -l .*  user.txt
ls: cannot access .gvfs: Permission denied


if you see any error with this please lemme know.

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[Bug 225361] Re: Superuser cannot access ~/.gvfs folder when mounted

2008-10-12 Thread gwi
That (user others than the one who mounted the fs can't access it, including 
root) is not completely true.
I have two systems (not connected to eachother), both running Ubuntu 8.04.

On one of them I have one user, created during install, and member of
sudoers. On this system I use a script that uses sudo rsync to create
backups. I never get errors.

On the other system I have three users, let's call them A, B and C. A was 
created during install, and is member of sudoers (and as such is comparable to 
the only user on the first system). Here I am using the same backup script, and 
here I always get permission denied errors accessing /home/A/.gvfs.
I do NOT get errors when the script tries to access /home/B/.gvfs or 
/home/C/.gvfs!
In fact, user A can do a sudo -i, and then cd to /home/B/.gvfs, but not cd to 
his own /home/A/.gvfs.

So it looks like there IS a bug somewhere, and it would be nice to see
it fixed.

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Re: [Bug 225361] Re: Superuser cannot access ~/.gvfs folder when mounted

2008-10-12 Thread Ralph Corderoy

In my opinion, this doesn't reall give enough information to confirm
that the behaviour isn't down to user error.  For example, on the second
machine the cut-and-pasted output of

for u in A B C; do ls -ld /home/$u{,/.gvfs}; df /home/$u/.gvfs; id
$u; done

would be useful.

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[Bug 225361] Re: Superuser cannot access ~/.gvfs folder when mounted

2008-09-25 Thread Sebastien Bacher
upstream closed the bug as not a gvfs one



This is all unfortunate, but its a decision that has been taken by the fuse
people at the kernel level (user others than the one who mounted the fs can't
access it, including root) and there is nothing we can do about it.


** Changed in: gvfs (Ubuntu)
   Status: Triaged = Invalid

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[Bug 225361] Re: Superuser cannot access ~/.gvfs folder when mounted

2008-09-25 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: gvfs
   Status: New = Invalid

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[Bug 225361] Re: Superuser cannot access ~/.gvfs folder when mounted

2008-06-20 Thread Craig Maloney
Apparently I didn't have any .gvfs filesystems mounted, because now that
I have VirtualBox-OSE-modules installed, it's causing the .gvfs
permission errors all over again. Sorry for the confusion!

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[Bug 225361] Re: Superuser cannot access ~/.gvfs folder when mounted

2008-06-16 Thread Sebastien Bacher
that's no issue but 8 comments have been added in a few days now which
means 8 mails sent to whoever is subscribed to the bug

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[Bug 225361] Re: Superuser cannot access ~/.gvfs folder when mounted

2008-06-15 Thread Sebastien Bacher
could people stop adding comments to this bug? the bug has been marked
triaged and no confirmation is required, you are just mail spamming
other subscribers now

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Re: [Bug 225361] Re: Superuser cannot access ~/.gvfs folder when mounted

2008-06-15 Thread Ralph Corderoy

It may have originally been confirmed and triaged but surely it's normal
to respond to a `It looks like it's recently been fixed, please check'
request.  To not do so might mislead people into thinking it has indeed
been fixed.  That is not spamming.

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[Bug 225361] Re: Superuser cannot access ~/.gvfs folder when mounted

2008-06-15 Thread Sebastien Bacher
there is no reason why the issue should have changed since gvfs didn't
change recently and one person replying is enough in any case, no need
to have several comments stating the same thing

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[Bug 225361] Re: Superuser cannot access ~/.gvfs folder when mounted

2008-06-15 Thread Craig Maloney
I'm sorry my comment was regarded as spam. I woke up that morning and
noted that .gvfs was no longer causing me any exceptions in my nightly
rsync, where it had generated issues every night since I upgraded to
hardy. I don't know what changed, but felt it might be important to tell
someone that whatever they did, it seemed to take care of the issue for
me.

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[Bug 225361] Re: Superuser cannot access ~/.gvfs folder when mounted

2008-06-14 Thread pt123
Me too same problem as Ralph

sudo strace -e trace=lstat64 stat /home/pt123/.gvfs/
[sudo] password for pt123: 
lstat64(/home/pt123/.gvfs/, 0xbffba7b4) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
stat: cannot stat `/home/pt123/.gvfs/': Permission denied
Process 8670 detached

Linux  2.6.24-18-generic #1 SMP Wed May 28 20:27:26 UTC 2008 i686
GNU/Linux

Also before when tar-ing adding an exlude for .gvfs folder still threw
an error ( if I recall correctly), but now it doesn't. :)

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[Bug 225361] Re: Superuser cannot access ~/.gvfs folder when mounted

2008-06-13 Thread Craig Maloney
It appears the latest round of updates has fixed this. Please check to
see if you're still having this issue.

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Re: [Bug 225361] Re: Superuser cannot access ~/.gvfs folder when mounted

2008-06-13 Thread Ralph Corderoy

This is an up to date 8.04 i386.

$ sudo strace -e trace=lstat64 stat /home/ralph/.gvfs
lstat64(/home/ralph/.gvfs, 0xbfe8be54) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
stat: cannot stat `/home/ralph/.gvfs': Permission denied
Process 30706 detached
$ 

I think the problem still exists.

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[Bug 225361] Re: Superuser cannot access ~/.gvfs folder when mounted

2008-06-13 Thread Craig Maloney
Here's the results on my system:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo strace -e trace=lstat64 stat /home/craig/.gvfs
[sudo] password for craig:
lstat64(/home/craig/.gvfs, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0700, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0
  File: `/home/craig/.gvfs'
  Size: 4096Blocks: 8  IO Block: 4096   directory
Device: 805h/2053d  Inode: 1947Links: 2
Access: (0700/drwx--)  Uid: ( 1000/   craig)   Gid: ( 1000/   craig)
Access: 2008-06-13 01:01:01.0 -0400
Modify: 2008-05-24 07:18:23.0 -0400
Change: 2008-05-24 07:18:23.0 -0400
Process 26872 detached
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uname -a
Linux lister 2.6.24-18-generic #1 SMP Wed May 28 20:27:26 UTC 2008 i686 
GNU/Linux
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

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[Bug 225361] Re: Superuser cannot access ~/.gvfs folder when mounted

2008-06-13 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Interesting.  There's a couple of differences in the .gvfs inode between
the two of us.  Your perms are 0700, mine are 0500.  Your access time is
today but your modify and change aren't, all three of mine are the same
value.  Do you have anything mounted on .gvfs, if not, perhaps it's just
a normal directory now in your system?  Anyway, I am up to date with the
8.04 packages and I still get the problem.

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Re: [Bug 225361] Re: Superuser cannot access ~/.gvfs folder when mounted

2008-06-07 Thread Ralph Corderoy

 what about --exclude=~/.gvfs ?

I don't think most shells will expand the tilde when it's not at the
start of a word like that.

$ echo --exclude=~/foo
--exclude=~/foo
$ 

The problem here isn't that the issue can't be worked around, typically
adding an --exclude or several as Chris Hines points out, but that it
shouldn't be neccessary;  the basic Unix premise that root can stat the
inode has been broken.

I assume that FUSE's allow_users and allow_root options aren't being
used because they'd allow a plain user to DoS root.  However, isn't a
plain user already allowed to plug in a USB flash drive with a
filesystem on it and have the system mount that?  Do all filesystems
rigorously detect hierarchy loops, etc., caused by a malicious user
tweaking the filesystem's structures manually before the system kindly
mounting it for them;  something normally only root could do?

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Re: [Bug 225361] Re: Superuser cannot access ~/.gvfs folder when mounted

2008-06-06 Thread Stephan van Ingen
what about --exclude=~/.gvfs ?

2008/6/5 Chris Hines [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I am by no means an expert in development, but I've been getting around
 this by adding --exclude /home/.../.gvfs. It's worked, although it's a
 pain to backup more than one home account at a time. I'm not sure if
 this is relevant at all to the correction of this bug.

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[Bug 225361] Re: Superuser cannot access ~/.gvfs folder when mounted

2008-06-05 Thread Chris Hines
I am by no means an expert in development, but I've been getting around
this by adding --exclude /home/.../.gvfs. It's worked, although it's a
pain to backup more than one home account at a time. I'm not sure if
this is relevant at all to the correction of this bug.

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[Bug 225361] Re: Superuser cannot access ~/.gvfs folder when mounted

2008-06-04 Thread Craig Maloney
Is there a particular package that is causing this error to occur, and
if so, is it possible to remove this package without seriously hampering
the user experience? I'm finding it's cropping up more and more in my
daily activities, and I want to get rid of it.

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[Bug 225361] Re: Superuser cannot access ~/.gvfs folder when mounted

2008-05-23 Thread Ralph Corderoy
I'd argue that, based on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance, this
bug's Importance should be Medium.  As described in the duplicate I
raised, things like automatically checking the success of a daily tar(1)
now fails because it always exits with a non-zero status instead of only
rarely:

For ~/.gvfs to not follow normal Unix semantics is a major pain.  As
root, one can normally tar up a user's home directory, perhaps as part
of a daily backup regime, without problems.  That's the point of running
it as root.  Since the introduction of ~/.gvfs:

$ sudo tar cf /dev/null .gvfs .bash_profile
tar: .gvfs: Cannot stat: Permission denied
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
$ echo $?
2
$

So checking the exit status of tar for any backups problems now fails.
Every day.

I'd argue tar is pretty core and it's having a medium or severe impact,
as outlined under Medium.

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[Bug 225361] Re: Superuser cannot access ~/.gvfs folder when mounted

2008-05-23 Thread Sebastien Bacher
discussing the setting is not really useful too, setting to medium to
avoid random comment but the issue is a manpower one mainly and the
change is not going to make a real difference there if nobody starts
working on the issue

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[Bug 225361] Re: Superuser cannot access ~/.gvfs folder when mounted

2008-05-23 Thread Sebastien Bacher
the permission issue is a fuse one, not really due to gvfs, the mounts
could be using a different directory though

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[Bug 225361] Re: Superuser cannot access ~/.gvfs folder when mounted

2008-05-22 Thread Sebastien Bacher
there is a bug about the issue on
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=534284

** Changed in: gvfs (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Low
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs)
   Status: Confirmed = Triaged

** Also affects: gvfs via
   http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=534284
   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

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[Bug 225361] Re: Superuser cannot access ~/.gvfs folder when mounted

2008-05-22 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: gvfs
   Status: Unknown = New

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[Bug 225361] Re: Superuser cannot access ~/.gvfs folder when mounted

2008-05-07 Thread Ralph Corderoy
This bug should clearly be confirmed.  As well as Thomas Nybergh
spotting the same problem, I also raised a duplicate, bug #227724.

** Changed in: gvfs (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 225361] Re: Superuser cannot access ~/.gvfs folder when mounted

2008-05-02 Thread Thomas R.
 drwx-- 2 wg wg 4096 2008-04-25 23:12 /home/user/.gvfs

I'm sorry, I forgot to replace wg (the real user name) by user for
readability:

drwx-- 2 user user 4096 2008-04-25 23:12 /home/user/.gvfs

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[Bug 225361] Re: Superuser cannot access ~/.gvfs folder when mounted

2008-05-02 Thread Thomas Nybergh
I'm experiencing a similar problem.

I did a clean install of 8.04 (32 bit, alternate installer) without
overwriting my /home. After the install, I created a user and changed
ownership of the old /home/thomas, but when I was about to remove parts
of my settings files i encountered permission denied for .gvfs

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/thomas# whoami
root
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/thomas# ls .gvfs 
ls: cannot access .gvfs: Permission denied

ls -la ~thomas shows the following on the row for the .gvfs directory
d?  ? ?  ? ?? .gvfs

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