Re: GtkRecentChooser API glitch

2006-07-12 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Emmanuele Bassi Unfortunately, when importing the GtkRecent API in GTK+ I made a mistake and these two functions have been erroneously left inside the GtkRecentChooser interface API: Hi Emmanuele, This might be appropriate for devel-announce-list, maybe even in preference to

Re: Time to heat up the new module discussion

2006-07-12 Thread Johan Svedberg
* Jul 12 02:21 Elijah Newren [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [...] So, to start of the discussion, the proposed modules AFAIR are: * orca (as a replacement to gnopernicus) * alacarte * gnome-power-manager * Tomboy * Gtk# What about libnotify? It was proposed for 2.14 but rejected because of lack

Re: libgswitchit + libkbdraw = ... ?

2006-07-12 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Sun, 2006-07-09 at 23:17 +0100, Sergey Udaltsov wrote: Hi all There was interesting discussion tonight on #g-h, so here I'll give some summary and ask an advice: As some of you might be aware, libgswitchit and libkbdaw are virtual modules included into gnome-control-center and

Re: Time to heat up the new module discussion

2006-07-12 Thread Darren Kenny
I'm concerned about the inclusion of GTK# - and hence all the rest of Mono into the core GNOME. It's been mentioned many times before that we already have too many component models in the GNOME platform - and once they are in there, it's VERY hard to get them back out again - just look at Bonobo.

Re: libgswitchit + libkbdraw = ... ?

2006-07-12 Thread Sebastien Bacher
On dim, 2006-07-09 at 23:17 +0100, Sergey Udaltsov wrote: I see the Ben's point but I have strong concern that solutions like this could easily make GNOME any distrobuilder's nightmare. So here is the question: would gnome build process stand 2(!!!) new TINY(!) libraries - or is there

Re: FreeType upgrade = apps linked against libttf.so need to be rebuilt

2006-07-12 Thread Matthias Clasen
On 7/10/06, Joseph E. Sacco, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FreeType-2.1.x contains libttf.so as well as libfreetype.so. See Fedora 4 5. In version 2.2.x, the true type font stuff has been incorporated into libfreetype and libttf.so has been eliminated. Thats entirely a fedora packaging

Re: FreeType upgrade = apps linked against libttf.so need to be rebuilt

2006-07-12 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 12:48 -0400, Joseph E. Sacco, Ph.D. wrote: OK... Which leads us back to my original comment that apps that are linked against libttf.so need to be rebuilt. Still no. Even rpms built using it don't need to be rebuilt, as rpms depend on /usr/lib/libtts.so.*, not the

Re: Time to heat up the new module discussion

2006-07-12 Thread Elijah Newren
On 7/12/06, Robert Love [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2006-07-11 at 14:16 -0600, Elijah Newren wrote: So, to start of the discussion, the proposed modules AFAIR are: * orca (as a replacement to gnopernicus) * alacarte * gnome-power-manager * Tomboy * Gtk# * nm-applet The

Re: Time to heat up the new module discussion

2006-07-12 Thread Elijah Newren
On 7/12/06, Calum Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12 Jul 2006, at 08:56, Johan Svedberg wrote: * Jul 12 02:21 Elijah Newren [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [...] So, to start of the discussion, the proposed modules AFAIR are: * orca (as a replacement to gnopernicus) * alacarte *

Re: Gnome 2.15.4 is broken

2006-07-12 Thread Elijah Newren
On 7/11/06, Elijah Newren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As per suggestion at http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2006-June/msg00071.html, here's some loud complaining about 2.15.4 brokenness (taken from an email from Vincent, except I've added some new notes and probably made things

Re: Flags or not? (Was: Re: Noticed in passing)

2006-07-12 Thread Sergey Udaltsov
Hello Simos Personally I am against flags being used to indicate the language your keyboard is set to write. I thouht it was already discussed. GNOME does not officially support flags and has no stardard functionality of that kind - so you do not have to convince me. But the amount of people

Re: Gnome 2.15.4 is broken

2006-07-12 Thread Matthias Clasen
On 7/12/06, Elijah Newren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, since it isn't going away, if you allow this to happen to you, you will be publicly shamed on d-d-l, and maybe even beaten with half a pair of virtual pants. You don't want that to happen. I don't know if it is easy to make make

Re: FreeType upgrade = apps linked against libttf.so need to be rebuilt

2006-07-12 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 12:07 -0400, Joseph E. Sacco, Ph.D. wrote: FreeType-2.1.x contains libttf.so as well as libfreetype.so. See Fedora 4 5. In version 2.2.x, the true type font stuff has been incorporated into libfreetype and libttf.so has been eliminated. No, you are wrong. The

Re: Time to heat up the new module discussion (RESEND)

2006-07-12 Thread Ghee . Teo
Darren Kenny wrote: Is there a definition of that is acceptable as a core GNOME application - other than it's based on consensus? I think we are badly in need of a definition that defines the needs of the core GNOME Desktop? There is no doubt we need to establish a definition of what

Re: Noticed in passing

2006-07-12 Thread Matthias Clasen
On 7/10/06, Sergey Udaltsov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Flags !!! I knew it. There will always be a way to allow users to indicate layouts using flags (as long as I maintain GNOME xkb indicator at least). It can be hidden, non-documented, whatever (so GNOME would not take political

Re: Gnome 2.15.4 is broken

2006-07-12 Thread Carlos Eduardo Rodrigues Diógenes
On Tue, 2006-07-11 at 13:34 -0600, Elijah Newren wrote: + looks like we'll need a new gnome-mag release since LT_VERSION is wrong (Frederic knows more about this) The new release can be downloaded in http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/GNOME/sources/gnome-mag/0.13/ Best regards, -- Carlos Eduardo

Re: Some notes about 2.15.4

2006-07-12 Thread Vincent Untz
Let's cc d-d-l. Please, everyone, let's make our lifes easier for the next release... I don't have any real figures, but a bunch of modules was released late, which is not helping for smoketesting. Le mardi 11 juillet 2006, à 17:55, Vincent Untz a écrit : Hey there, In case somebody else

Re: Gnome 2.15.4 is broken

2006-07-12 Thread Matthias Clasen
Another issue: gnome-icon-theme-2.15.3 requires icon-naming-utils 0.7.3, which is nowhere to be found... ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Gnome 2.15.4 is broken

2006-07-12 Thread Bill Haneman
Another issue: + at-spi 1.7.8 shipped without translations. This has been happening to lots of modules in past releases (and may have happened to other modules in this release; haven't checked close enough), and still doesn't seem to be going away. Note that the most likely cause of

Re: FreeType upgrade = apps linked against libttf.so need to be rebuilt

2006-07-12 Thread Rodney Dawes
Which still points at Fedora. On other distros that don't do this, those apps don't need to be rebuilt. On Debian, for example, libttf.so is in a separate package anyway. Please take this to Fedora's bugzilla. -- dobey On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 12:48 -0400, Joseph E. Sacco, Ph.D. wrote: OK...

Module renames

2006-07-12 Thread Andrew Cowie
[I'm certain this isn't the correct list for administrivia, but I'm on the road and it's hard to interpolate what a better choice would have been. Apologies] We have a module whose name was renamed before it was released for the first time but after it started life in CVS. As we're about to

Re: Gnome 2.15.4 is broken

2006-07-12 Thread Rodney Dawes
It looks like your LINGUAS file is in the toplevel directory, and not in po/. This is most likely the cause. :) -- dobey On Wed, 2006-07-12 at 19:40 +0100, Bill Haneman wrote: Another issue: + at-spi 1.7.8 shipped without translations. This has been happening to lots of modules in

Re: Gnome 2.15.4 is broken

2006-07-12 Thread Bill Haneman
On Wed, 2006-07-12 at 20:31, Rodney Dawes wrote: It looks like your LINGUAS file is in the toplevel directory, and not in po/. This is most likely the cause. :) Indeed. thanks Rodney, fixed in cvs. I'll re-roll now. Bill -- dobey On Wed, 2006-07-12 at 19:40 +0100, Bill Haneman

Re: Gnome 2.15.4 is broken

2006-07-12 Thread Carlos Eduardo Rodrigues Diógenes
Hi Bill, On Wed, 2006-07-12 at 19:40 +0100, Bill Haneman wrote: Another issue: + at-spi 1.7.8 shipped without translations. This has been happening to lots of modules in past releases (and may have happened to other modules in this release; haven't checked close enough), and still

Re: Time to heat up the new module discussion

2006-07-12 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Tue, 2006-07-11 at 14:16 -0600, Elijah Newren wrote: And the big question: We currently allow desktop modules to depend on the pygtk bindings, but no others. Should we extend that to include the gtk# ones (assuming, of course, that gtk# is added to the bindings set)? IMO we should

Re: Gnome 2.15.4 is broken

2006-07-12 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Tue, 2006-07-11 at 13:34 -0600, Elijah Newren wrote: + gnome-session requires a new gnome-control-center. New gnome-control-center means that we should use libxklavier 2.91. Which means that we need a new gnome-applets release. Yay for API changes :-) (AFAIK, maintainers are

Re: Time to heat up the new module discussion

2006-07-12 Thread Christian Hammond
On 7/12/06, Elijah Newren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/12/06, Calum Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12 Jul 2006, at 08:56, Johan Svedberg wrote: * Jul 12 02:21 Elijah Newren [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [...] So, to start of the discussion, the proposed modules AFAIR are: *

Re: Gnome 2.15.4 is broken

2006-07-12 Thread Joseph E. Sacco, Ph.D.
gnome-vfsmm-2.14.0 does not build under 2.15.4. -Joseph -- joseph_sacco [at] comcast [dot] net ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Time to heat up the new module discussion

2006-07-12 Thread Dan Winship
Elijah Newren wrote: * orca (as a replacement to gnopernicus) * alacarte * gnome-power-manager * Tomboy * Gtk# Yay, I have no clue, Yay, Yay, and Yay, respectively. There's one additional issue to address as well: * Okay to have desktop modules depend on gtk# bindings? The argument

Re: Gnome 2.15.4 is broken

2006-07-12 Thread Joseph E. Sacco, Ph.D.
Turns out to be caused by the bonobo changes in gnome-vfs-2.15.3 http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2006-July/msg00032.html -Joseph = On Wed, 2006-07-12 at 20:57 -0400, Joseph E. Sacco, Ph.D.

Re: Flags or not? (Was: Re: Noticed in passing)

2006-07-12 Thread James Henstridge
On 10/07/06, Sergey Udaltsov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Annoying. What we do? We set a fixed width. Of course. Even if we adopt two-letter code, we won't adopt fixed font. So the actual width of the string cannot be guaranteed eather way. I think the point here is that you know what names are