Re: Semantics (was: Re: desktop-devel-list Digest, Vol 50, Issue 26)

2008-06-25 Thread Wouter Bolsterlee
2008-06-24 klockan 00:53 skrev Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen: However insulted some people will feel by Wouter's comments I beg; can we please stop this thread here? Sorry, seems my comments were a bit harsh. I should watch my words more carefully when sending messages late at night... :) For

Re: Need Leadership

2008-06-25 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 12:27 +0300, natan yellin wrote: 1. Host an annual developer awards contest. Apple does it, and there's really no reason why we shouldn't as well. The system would have to be adapted a bit, but it _is_ doable. Like it or not, shiny prizes and recognition help attract

gnome-session proposal

2008-06-25 Thread William Jon McCann
Hi, Dan Winship and Lucas Rocha have done a nice job revamping the gnome-session codebase. It was a meritorious task. You can read about the design here: http://live.gnome.org/SessionManagement/NewGnomeSession The new code is much cleaner. Parts of the new design are very good. In particular,

Re: gnome-session proposal

2008-06-25 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 25.06.08 19:07, William Jon McCann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: We can still support applications that only know if they should inhibit just in time by emitting a signal when a logout is requested. The applications can then take an inhibit in response to that signal. This part sounds

Re: gnome-session proposal

2008-06-25 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Thu, 2008-06-26 at 01:45 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Wed, 25.06.08 19:07, William Jon McCann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: We can still support applications that only know if they should inhibit just in time by emitting a signal when a logout is requested. The applications can

Re: gnome-session proposal

2008-06-25 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 25.06.08 19:49, David Zeuthen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 19:07 -0400, William Jon McCann wrote: What do you think? Definitely +1 from me. The proposal is well thought out and you've done your research/homework. Plus it builds upon and uses well-understood and

Re: gnome-session proposal

2008-06-25 Thread William Jon McCann
Hey Lennart, On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 7:45 PM, Lennart Poettering [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25.06.08 19:07, William Jon McCann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: We can still support applications that only know if they should inhibit just in time by emitting a signal when a logout is

Re: gnome-session proposal

2008-06-25 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 25.06.08 20:00, William Jon McCann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hey! We can still support applications that only know if they should inhibit just in time by emitting a signal when a logout is requested. The applications can then take an inhibit in response to that signal. This

Re: gnome-session proposal

2008-06-25 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 26.06.08 00:48, Bastien Nocera ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thu, 2008-06-26 at 01:45 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Wed, 25.06.08 19:07, William Jon McCann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: We can still support applications that only know if they should inhibit just in time

Re: gnome-session proposal

2008-06-25 Thread Andrew Cowie
On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 19:49 -0400, David Zeuthen wrote: Most importantly, I think, this is a good example of progress in GNOME via the JFDI school of thought. That is *exactly* what I was thinking when I read Jon's email. Well thought out indeed. AfC Sydney signature.asc Description: This

Re: gnome-session proposal

2008-06-25 Thread Callum McKenzie
On Thu, June 26, 2008 11:07 am, William Jon McCann wrote: I don't think these are sufficient reasons to continue to solely rely on XSMP. We can do these very well using D-Bus. Can I assume from your use of the word solely that your backwards-compatibility strategy is to leave XSMP support in

Re: gnome-session proposal

2008-06-25 Thread Martin Meyer
Is there any way of allowing applications to prompt the user for something before exiting as part of this process? Firefox at the least likes to ask about saving session before quitting, and some other apps (gnome-terminal for one) might like to ask if you're sure since you have multiple tabs