Re: New module proposal: gnome-user-share

2008-10-28 Thread Frej Soya
Bastien Nocera hadess at hadess.net writes: Heya, I'd be interested in getting gnome-user-share into GNOME 2.26. snip.. We're also looking into integrating Frank Scholz' UPNP sharing work (see http://coherence.beebits.net/wiki/Nautilus). This would be really cool, especially if it

Re: Prototyping the next generation panel?

2008-10-28 Thread John Stowers
2008/10/28 Johannes Schmid [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi! So after I finally got to read http://live.gnome.org/Boston2008/GUIHackfest/WindowManagementAndMore and vuntz blogpost I was wondering if there is already a place where the prototyping of the new panel is happening. I guess quite some people

Re: Prototyping the next generation panel?

2008-10-28 Thread Thomas Thurman
Ysgrifennodd John Stowers: Personally I would not be sad if AWN were to replace gnome-panel all together (in the default install), but thats a story for another day. I really like AWN. I'd love if we could use it or some of it. Bikeshed: are we calling this gnome-shell after all? Maybe we

Re: New module proposal: gnome-user-share

2008-10-28 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 13:22 +, Frej Soya wrote: Bastien Nocera hadess at hadess.net writes: Heya, I'd be interested in getting gnome-user-share into GNOME 2.26. snip.. We're also looking into integrating Frank Scholz' UPNP sharing work (see

Re: Prototyping the next generation panel?

2008-10-28 Thread Karl Lattimer
Maybe we could call it nemo after the captain of the Nautilus. AWESOME NAME K, ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

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Re: New module proposal: gnome-user-share

2008-10-28 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Sat, 2008-10-25 at 03:06 +0200, BJörn Lindqvist wrote: 2008/10/24 Bastien Nocera [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 21:11 +0200, BJörn Lindqvist wrote: Isn't that what nfs does? Or for that matter, ftp? I don't understand why a web server is needed for sharing files. WebDAV is

Re: DVCS

2008-10-28 Thread Zeeshan Ali Khattak
Hi everyone! I remember that at GUADEC, we were seriously thinking about migrating to git but the decision was postponed on Mark Shuttleworth's request. It's been some months since that and we are still stuck with SVN. AFAIK both git and bazaar have very strong supporters in our community so the

Re: DVCS

2008-10-28 Thread Johan Dahlin
Zeeshan Ali Khattak wrote: Hi everyone! I remember that at GUADEC, we were seriously thinking about migrating to git but the decision was postponed on Mark Shuttleworth's request. It's been some months since that and we are still stuck with SVN. AFAIK both git and bazaar have very strong

Re: Prototyping the next generation panel?

2008-10-28 Thread Sandy Armstrong
Thomas Thurman wrote: Ysgrifennodd John Stowers: Personally I would not be sad if AWN were to replace gnome-panel all together (in the default install), but thats a story for another day. I really like AWN. I'd love if we could use it or some of it. Bikeshed: are we calling this

Re: Prototyping the next generation panel?

2008-10-28 Thread Patryk Zawadzki
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Bastien Nocera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 10:45 -0400, Thomas Thurman wrote: Ysgrifennodd Sandy Armstrong: Thomas Thurman wrote: Bikeshed: are we calling this gnome-shell after all? Maybe we could call it nemo after the captain of

Re: DVCS

2008-10-28 Thread John Carr
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Zeeshan Ali Khattak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone! I remember that at GUADEC, we were seriously thinking about migrating to git but the decision was postponed on Mark Shuttleworth's request. It's been some months since that and we are still stuck with

Re: DVCS

2008-10-28 Thread Shaun McCance
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 16:24 +0200, Zeeshan Ali Khattak wrote: Hi everyone! I remember that at GUADEC, we were seriously thinking about migrating to git but the decision was postponed on Mark Shuttleworth's request. It's been some months since that and we are still stuck with SVN. AFAIK both

Re: DVCS

2008-10-28 Thread John Carr
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Thomas Thurman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think it's a secret that I like one over the other, but I'd rather either of them than sticking with svn. Same feelings

Re: DVCS

2008-10-28 Thread Claudio Saavedra
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 15:10 +, John Carr wrote: Lets not turn this into yet another bazaar vs. git war cause we already had plenty of that and nothing good comes out of that. I think the vote should be down to the foundation members. I actually think that, if any, the vote should be

Re: Prototyping the next generation panel?

2008-10-28 Thread Karl Lattimer
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 16:00 +0100, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Bastien Nocera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 10:45 -0400, Thomas Thurman wrote: Ysgrifennodd Sandy Armstrong: Thomas Thurman wrote: Bikeshed: are we calling this gnome-shell

Re: DVCS

2008-10-28 Thread A. Walton
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Shaun McCance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 16:24 +0200, Zeeshan Ali Khattak wrote: Hi everyone! I remember that at GUADEC, we were seriously thinking about migrating to git but the decision was postponed on Mark Shuttleworth's request.

Re: DVCS

2008-10-28 Thread Germán Póo-Caamaño
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 15:10 +, John Carr wrote: [...] bkor isnt the only sysadmin, but who are the others and how much do they do.. the whole sysadmin process is not very transparent. Shouldn't it be? I would *love* to help out the sysadmins, maybe even offer them some of my time. Where

Re: DVCS

2008-10-28 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, John Carr wrote: I think the vote should be down to the foundation members. I think module maintainers (some of whom aren't even foundation members) is a better electorate. I for one have not been a regular developer for quite some time wouldn't have anything useful to contribute to the

Re: Prototyping the next generation panel?

2008-10-28 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 28 octobre 2008, à 15:20 +, Karl Lattimer a écrit : Columbiad - the cannon from the book From earth to the moon ? Interesting -- I had the same proposal :-) Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing

Re: Prototyping the next generation panel?

2008-10-28 Thread Dan Winship
Patryk Zawadzki wrote: Red October seems appropriate as the project will eventually surrender itself for reimplementation ;) Red October GNOME? http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-announce-list/1999-October/msg00020.html -- Dan ___

Re: DVCS

2008-10-28 Thread Juan Jesús Ojeda Croissier
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Zeeshan Ali Khattak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone! I remember that at GUADEC, we were seriously thinking about migrating to git but the decision was postponed on Mark Shuttleworth's request. It's been some months since that and we are still stuck with

Re: Prototyping the next generation panel?

2008-10-28 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 27 octobre 2008, à 16:58 -0700, Johannes Schmid a écrit : Hi! So after I finally got to read http://live.gnome.org/Boston2008/GUIHackfest/WindowManagementAndMore and vuntz blogpost I was wondering if there is already a place where the prototyping of the new panel is happening. I

Re: DVCS

2008-10-28 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
Claudio Saavedra wrote: On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 15:10 +, John Carr wrote: Lets not turn this into yet another bazaar vs. git war cause we already had plenty of that and nothing good comes out of that. I think the vote should be down to the foundation members. I actually think that, if

Re: DVCS

2008-10-28 Thread Richard Hughes
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 16:24 +0200, Zeeshan Ali Khattak wrote: Hi everyone! I remember that at GUADEC, we were seriously thinking about migrating to git but the decision was postponed on Mark Shuttleworth's request. It's been some months since that and we are still stuck with SVN. AFAIK both

Re: Prototyping the next generation panel?

2008-10-28 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Vincent Untz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't know if you read Owen's post, which talks about how this could be implemented: http://blog.fishsoup.net/2008/10/22/implementing-the-next-gnome-shell/ I guess we'll have stuff in a svn module as soon as there's

Re: DVCS

2008-10-28 Thread Thomas Thurman
Ysgrifennodd Richard Hughes: I've tried bazaar, but it was too slow, and Please, can we not rehash all the Bazaar was too slow back when I tried it in 1905! and git is so complicated you need a PhD in torvaldsology! arguments in this thread? We've done them all a million times already and

Re: DVCS

2008-10-28 Thread Karl Lattimer
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 12:48 -0400, Thomas Thurman wrote: Ysgrifennodd Richard Hughes: I've tried bazaar, but it was too slow, and Please, can we not rehash all the Bazaar was too slow back when I tried it in 1905! and git is so complicated you need a PhD in torvaldsology! arguments in

Re: DVCS

2008-10-28 Thread Patryk Zawadzki
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Karl Lattimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They both suck, lets use wizbit for a communally continuously syncing DVCS-file-system where everyone can edit and never need to care about pushing or pulling... Lies! We should totally be using a shared DropBox account

Re: DVCS

2008-10-28 Thread Karl Lattimer
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 17:55 +0100, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Karl Lattimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They both suck, lets use wizbit for a communally continuously syncing DVCS-file-system where everyone can edit and never need to care about pushing or pulling...

Re: DVCS

2008-10-28 Thread Frederic Peters
John Carr wrote: 1. I don't see any way of using git mirrors (don't know of bazaar) in jhbuild setup. Help wanted: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=538507 I should really find some time to work on this; hopefully this week-end. Frederic

Re: DVCS

2008-10-28 Thread Mikael Hallendal
Hi, I can't really see us coming to a consensus on this topic. Even after a vote we would have people continuing to use Bazaar if Git win and vice verse. GNOME is by nature a distributed project with a lot of sub modules, maintainers and thus preferences. I personally think our time and

Re: DVCS

2008-10-28 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
Mikael Hallendal wrote: Hi, I can't really see us coming to a consensus on this topic. Even after a vote we would have people continuing to use Bazaar if Git win and vice verse. GNOME is by nature a distributed project with a lot of sub modules, maintainers and thus preferences. I

Re: DVCS

2008-10-28 Thread Owen Taylor
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 18:55 +0100, Mikael Hallendal wrote: Hi, I can't really see us coming to a consensus on this topic. Even after a vote we would have people continuing to use Bazaar if Git win and vice verse. GNOME is by nature a distributed project with a lot of sub modules,

Re: Prototyping the next generation panel?

2008-10-28 Thread Calum Benson
On 28 Oct 2008, at 16:00, Vincent Untz wrote: Don't know if you read Owen's post, which talks about how this could be implemented: http://blog.fishsoup.net/2008/10/22/implementing-the-next-gnome-shell/ I guess we'll have stuff in a svn module as soon as there's proper code to show :-)

Re: DVCS

2008-10-28 Thread Dan Winship
Mikael Hallendal wrote: Translations is often brought up as a tricky part for this, can we handle them in a way where they are agnostic to the VCS system the modules happen to be in. We already have a lot of the logic; if you've got jhbuild set up, jhbuild update MODULENAME will check out any

Re: DVCS

2008-10-28 Thread Mikael Hallendal
28 okt 2008 kl. 19.05 skrev Behdad Esfahbod: Mikael Hallendal wrote: Hi, I can't really see us coming to a consensus on this topic. Even after a vote we would have people continuing to use Bazaar if Git win and vice verse. GNOME is by nature a distributed project with a lot of sub

Re: DVCS

2008-10-28 Thread Hubert Figuiere
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 17:55 +0100, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: Lies! We should totally be using a shared DropBox account with all the GNOME inside! ;) Fall back to the BitKeeper effect[1]? No thanks. Hub [1] DropBox is not Free Software. ___

Re: DVCS

2008-10-28 Thread Karl Lattimer
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 14:56 -0400, Hubert Figuiere wrote: On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 17:55 +0100, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: Lies! We should totally be using a shared DropBox account with all the GNOME inside! ;) Fall back to the BitKeeper effect[1]? No thanks. Spotting a joke fail. :) K,

Re: DVCS

2008-10-28 Thread Kalle Vahlman
2008/10/28 Owen Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 18:55 +0100, Mikael Hallendal wrote: Hi, I can't really see us coming to a consensus on this topic. Even after a vote we would have people continuing to use Bazaar if Git win and vice verse. GNOME is by nature a distributed

Re: Prototyping the next generation panel?

2008-10-28 Thread Colin Walters
Hi Calum, On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Calum Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about we start as we hopefully mean to go on, by usability testing mockups of some alternative shell/panel designs first, to figure out if we're heading off in roughly the right direction before we even think

Re: Prototyping the next generation panel?

2008-10-28 Thread Karl Lattimer
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 15:25 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: Hi Calum, On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Calum Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about we start as we hopefully mean to go on, by usability testing mockups of some alternative shell/panel designs first, to figure out if we're

Re: DVCS

2008-10-28 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Dan Winship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Behdad Esfahbod wrote: Can we get away from central hosting on gnome.org servers? Don't know. The big problem here is that you lose the ability for translators to commit directly to your repo. Which pretty much is going

Re: DVCS

2008-10-28 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Dienstag, den 28.10.2008, 17:50 -0400 schrieb Matthias Clasen: On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Dan Winship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Behdad Esfahbod wrote: The big problem here is that you lose the ability for translators to commit directly to your repo. Which pretty much is going to

Re: DVCS

2008-10-28 Thread BJörn Lindqvist
Hello, 2008/10/28 Mikael Hallendal [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I can't really see us coming to a consensus on this topic. Even after a vote we would have people continuing to use Bazaar if Git win and vice verse. GNOME is by nature a distributed project with a lot of sub modules, maintainers and thus

Re: DVCS

2008-10-28 Thread Shaun McCance
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 23:23 +0100, BJörn Lindqvist wrote: Hello, 2008/10/28 Mikael Hallendal [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I can't really see us coming to a consensus on this topic. Even after a vote we would have people continuing to use Bazaar if Git win and vice verse. GNOME is by nature a

Re: DVCS

2008-10-28 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 04:24:25PM +0200, Zeeshan Ali Khattak wrote: I remember that at GUADEC, we were seriously thinking about migrating to git but the decision was postponed on Mark Shuttleworth's request. It's been some months since that and we are still stuck with It wasn't delayed at

Re: DVCS

2008-10-28 Thread John Carr
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Behdad Esfahbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Claudio Saavedra wrote: On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 15:10 +, John Carr wrote: Lets not turn this into yet another bazaar vs. git war cause we already had plenty of that and nothing good comes out of that. I think the

Re: DVCS

2008-10-28 Thread John Carr
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 12:30 AM, Ali Sabil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 1:18 AM, John Carr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Behdad Esfahbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Claudio Saavedra wrote: On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 15:10 +, John Carr wrote:

Re: DVCS

2008-10-28 Thread Andreia Gaita
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 12:30 AM, Ali Sabil [EMAIL PROTECTED] I personally think that keeping svn, and maintaining bzr-mirror, git-mirror, and hopefully an hg-mirror would make everyone happy. All of bzr, hg and git provide a mean to interop with svn, while there is not always a way to