Re: Be respectful and considerate. A complaint.

2012-07-02 Thread Luca Ferretti
2012/7/3 Jasper St. Pierre > > You linked the same bug twice. > > Doh, my bad. They was "Don't show a titlebar when maximized" and "Migrate menu bar to a view menu button", but it seems both (and more) was reported on the same bug. ___ desktop-devel-lis

Re: Be respectful and considerate. A complaint.

2012-07-02 Thread Luca Ferretti
2012/7/3 Luca Ferretti > 2012/7/2 Andreas Nilsson > >> >> And here is the same feature, but at the window manager level (and for >> all the other apps too): >> http://andreasn.myownb3.com/**temp/nau-side-by-side.png >> >> > > This is the l

Re: Be respectful and considerate. A complaint.

2012-07-02 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Luca Ferretti wrote: > 2012/7/2 Andreas Nilsson >> >> >> And here is the same feature, but at the window manager level (and for all >> the other apps too): >> http://andreasn.myownb3.com/temp/nau-side-by-side.png >> > > Unfortunately this is already old :) > > http

Re: Be respectful and considerate. A complaint.

2012-07-02 Thread Luca Ferretti
2012/7/2 Andreas Nilsson > > And here is the same feature, but at the window manager level (and for all > the other apps too): > http://andreasn.myownb3.com/**temp/nau-side-by-side.png > > Unfortunately this is already old :) https://bugzill

Re: Be respectful and considerate. A complaint.

2012-07-02 Thread John Stowers
> > And here is the same feature, but at the window manager level (and for all > the other apps too): > http://andreasn.myownb3.com/temp/nau-side-by-side.png > > Same thing, just on a different level and now desktop-wide. Not quite. With split planes select complex combination of files with ctrl

Re: Be respectful and considerate. A complaint.

2012-07-02 Thread Dylan McCall
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Andreas Nilsson wrote: > For reference, here is the extra pane functionality in Nautilus: > http://andreasn.myownb3.com/temp/nau-extra-pane.png > > And here is the same feature, but at the window manager level (and for all > the other apps too): > http://andreasn.my

Re: Be respectful and considerate. A complaint.

2012-07-02 Thread Jason Simanek
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: > This has been a part of GNOME since 3.2. Just drag the window to > either side of the screen. In GNOME 3.4, you can hit Left, or > Right. Oh. So is this just fullscreen only? Yeah, that's not what I thought you were showing me. I thought

Re: Be respectful and considerate. A complaint.

2012-07-02 Thread Florian Müllner
On Jul 2, 2012 11:52 PM, "Jasper St. Pierre" wrote: > This has been a part of GNOME since 3.2. 3.0 actually. Florian ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: taking features away (compact view removed from Nautilus)

2012-07-02 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Mon, 2012-07-02 at 16:03 +0100, Allan Day wrote: > Federico Mena Quintero wrote: > ... > > The anti-pattern for both removals is like, "there's some peeling paint > > in this house - let's bulldoze the neighborhood". > ... > > How do you know that was the reason for the decision, if the > back

Re: Be respectful and considerate. A complaint.

2012-07-02 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Jason Simanek wrote: > On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Andreas Nilsson wrote: >> And here is the same feature, but at the window manager level (and for all >> the other apps too): >> http://andreasn.myownb3.com/temp/nau-side-by-side.png >> >> Same thing, just on a

Re: Be respectful and considerate. A complaint.

2012-07-02 Thread Jason Simanek
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Andreas Nilsson wrote: > And here is the same feature, but at the window manager level (and for all > the other apps too): > http://andreasn.myownb3.com/temp/nau-side-by-side.png > > Same thing, just on a different level and now desktop-wide. OK. All windows will b

Re: Be respectful and considerate. A complaint.

2012-07-02 Thread Andreas Nilsson
On 07/02/2012 10:34 PM, Holger Berndt wrote: I was baffled to see the extra pane feature from Nautilus silently removed. The story of this feature has a lot to do with communication and respect, and sadly enough, this mail is an addendum to other recent and not-so-recent topics on this list - so

Re: Be respectful and considerate. A complaint.

2012-07-02 Thread Jason Simanek
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Holger Berndt wrote: > But now that the design team managed to remove this feature after all, > silently, without a remotely comparable public discussion like it > underwent before going in, I wonder if that's the way the GNOME community > really wants to work and t

Re: taking features away (compact view removed from Nautilus)

2012-07-02 Thread Juanjo Marín
- Mensaje original - > De: Allan Day > Para: Federico Mena Quintero > CC: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org > Enviado: Lunes 2 de julio de 2012 17:03 > Asunto: Re: taking features away (compact view removed from Nautilus) > > Federico Mena Quintero wrote: > ... >> The anti-pattern for b

Be respectful and considerate. A complaint.

2012-07-02 Thread Holger Berndt
I was baffled to see the extra pane feature from Nautilus silently removed. The story of this feature has a lot to do with communication and respect, and sadly enough, this mail is an addendum to other recent and not-so-recent topics on this list - so it fits better here than on Nautilus' ML. I a

Re: bumping the pulseaudio requirement

2012-07-02 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > But we do have pulseaudio in the modulesets, and build it in jhbuild. > So maybe this is not that big of an issue ? Subsequent irc discussion on #release-team ended with the conclusion that it is probably fine to bump the requirement.

Re: taking features away (compact view removed from Nautilus)

2012-07-02 Thread Adam Dingle
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Allan Day wrote: Federico Mena Quintero wrote: .. > The anti-pattern for both removals is like, "there's some peeling paint > in this house - let's bulldoze the neighborhood". .. How do you know that was the reason for the decision, if the background hasn't

Re: taking features away (compact view removed from Nautilus)

2012-07-02 Thread Luca Ferretti
2012/7/2 Allan Day > > > Jon has been doing some fantastic work on Nautilus recently. It was > getting very little - if any - developer attention and he has stepped > up to make dramatic improvements, including addressing long-standing > complaints. I'm really excited about the next release of Nau

Re: taking features away (compact view removed from Nautilus)

2012-07-02 Thread Allan Day
Federico Mena Quintero wrote: ... > The anti-pattern for both removals is like, "there's some peeling paint > in this house - let's bulldoze the neighborhood". ... How do you know that was the reason for the decision, if the background hasn't been explained? The anti-pattern for that statement is

Re: taking features away (compact view removed from Nautilus)

2012-07-02 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Jul 02, 2012 at 09:38:36AM +0100, Allan Day wrote: > Adam, if you wanted to discuss this change, you could have done so on > the bug or on the Nautilus mailing list, or by asking on > #gnome-design. I would have been happy to have given you some > background on why the decision was made. F

Re: taking features away (compact view removed from Nautilus)

2012-07-02 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Sat, 2012-06-30 at 16:20 -0007, Adam Dingle wrote: > The features in core GNOME apps are the result of years of hard work > and consensus building by our community. All I ask is to be informed > before these features vanish and to be given the chance to say why I > like them so much. The dire

Re: taking features away (compact view removed from Nautilus)

2012-07-02 Thread Emily Gonyer
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 4:38 AM, Allan Day wrote: > Adam Dingle wrote: >> I realized recently to my surprise and dismay that the compact view has been >> removed from Nautilus: > > Adam, if you wanted to discuss this change, you could have done so on > the bug or on the Nautilus mailing list, or b

Re: taking features away (compact view removed from Nautilus)

2012-07-02 Thread Adam Dingle
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 1:38 AM, Allan Day wrote: > Adam Dingle wrote: > > I realized recently to my surprise and dismay that the compact view has > been > > removed from Nautilus: > > Adam, if you wanted to discuss this change, you could have done so on > the bug or on the Nautilus mailing list,

Re: taking features away (compact view removed from Nautilus)

2012-07-02 Thread Emmanuel Pacaud
Le lundi 02 juillet 2012 à 09:38 +0100, Allan Day a écrit : > Adam Dingle wrote: > > I realized recently to my surprise and dismay that the compact view has been > > removed from Nautilus: > > Adam, if you wanted to discuss this change, you could have done so on > the bug or on the Nautilus maili

Re: taking features away (compact view removed from Nautilus)

2012-07-02 Thread Allan Day
Adam Dingle wrote: > I realized recently to my surprise and dismay that the compact view has been > removed from Nautilus: Adam, if you wanted to discuss this change, you could have done so on the bug or on the Nautilus mailing list, or by asking on #gnome-design. I would have been happy to have