Re: Qt as acceptable GNOME dependency

2009-07-13 Thread Elijah Newren
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 9:52 PM, adelnetdur+maill...@gmail.com wrote: hey now Qt can be plugged into the Glib main loop and uses GTK+ for drawing, if I respected HIG and used GNOME API, can my Qt application be consider a GNOME application or even be part of default GNOME stack? For a

Re: fast-forward only policy

2009-05-06 Thread Elijah Newren
Hi, On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Elijah Newren new...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote: On the other hand 'gnome-2-0' is not pointing to any

Re: fast-forward only policy

2009-05-05 Thread Elijah Newren
Hi, On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote: On the other hand 'gnome-2-0' is not pointing to any release, there where commits after the last release. So my question here is: who would care about those commits? They were done 6 years ago and nobody

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

2009-01-05 Thread Elijah Newren
Hi, On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 7:51 AM, Olav Vitters o...@bkor.dhs.org wrote: Anyway, I'd rather add John Carr to the sysadmin team. I plan to make a proposal to switch GNOME to a DVCS where Git works using Johns suggestion. Then other sysadmins[1] can suggest whatever proposal they want. These

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

2009-01-05 Thread Elijah Newren
Hi, [Disclaimer: I wasn't involved in the construction or running of the survey, other than the analysis you saw plus some late feedback on the survey questions (I think my feedback was merely to suggest the other answer for contributor types.)] 2009/1/5 Andrew Cowie

Re: Reduced Bugzilla functionality for 6+ months -- acceptable?

2008-12-04 Thread Elijah Newren
Hi Max, On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Max Kanat-Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey folks. I'm Max, from the Bugzilla Project. I also have a company called Everything Solved, and we'd be the ones doing the upgrade work if it happens. This is great news. :-) All the

Re: Why do GNOMEdevelopers almost exclusively use git mirrors and for example not bzr mirrors

2008-04-08 Thread Elijah Newren
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 12:35 AM, Jaap A. Haitsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I was just wondering why many GNOME developers are using git mirror and for example not a bzr mirror? If I for example read http://live.gnome.org/DistributedSCM I have the feeling that bzr would also be a very

Re: Why do GNOMEdevelopers almost exclusively use git mirrors and for example not bzr mirrors

2008-04-08 Thread Elijah Newren
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 4:55 AM, Olav Vitters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 11:45:34AM +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote: (At least, that's what I understand) Indeed. This might be hard to do within Bzr (IIRC what Elijah said), due to repository format / design. No, I

Re: Removing libgnomeprint* from the desktop set

2008-03-28 Thread Elijah Newren
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Vincent Untz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like us to finally stop shipping libgnomeprint/libgnomeprintui as part of the desktop set. As far as I can tell from the jhbuild moduleset, it's only used by: + anjuta, with the scintilla editor plugin (but

Re: install-module on master.gnome.org

2008-03-21 Thread Elijah Newren
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 4:06 AM, Vincent Untz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le jeudi 20 mars 2008, à 22:27 -0400, Andrew Cowie a écrit : On Thu, 2008-03-20 at 22:39 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: There is no reliable way to determine the latest versions. You said you'd be working in

Re: GNOME 2.21.90 Development Release

2008-01-31 Thread Elijah Newren
On Jan 31, 2008 3:21 PM, Mike Kestner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 21:49 -0700, Elijah Newren wrote: = GNOME 2.21.90 Development Release = Hey Elijah, I noticed that you folks picked up gnome-sharp-2.19.91

Re: Swfdec: required external packages

2008-01-29 Thread Elijah Newren
On Jan 29, 2008 12:32 PM, Benjamin Otte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I looked into jhbuild and external deps are always tarballs. So I was wondering if there was a policy against depending on development versions for external deps. It's a bit more work for jhbuilders after all. Otherwise I'd

Re: Bump Avahi external dependency

2008-01-16 Thread Elijah Newren
2008/1/16 Wouter Bolsterlee [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008-01-16 klockan 11:31 skrev Luca Ferretti: Changes in avahi: [snip] * i18n support - from 0.6.22 (well, by now there are no translations available...) For this sole reason I'd say we'd want to bump the dep up. Thanks for

Re: GNOME 2.20.3 released!

2008-01-10 Thread Elijah Newren
Hi Carlos, On Jan 10, 2008 5:10 AM, Carlos Diógenes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I would like to know why gnome-mag-0.15 wasn't included in this release? Sorry, apparently someone (probably me) assumed that the stable release version numbers of gnome-mag would be 0.14.x and that 0.15 or

Re: New module decisions for 2.22

2008-01-09 Thread Elijah Newren
On Jan 9, 2008 5:51 PM, David Zeuthen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 18:45 -0600, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: On Thu, 2008-01-10 at 00:34 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: Retracted: PolicyKit PolicyKit-gnome (external dependency) I kinda dislike the wording here. I

Re: New module decisions for 2.22

2008-01-09 Thread Elijah Newren
On Jan 9, 2008 6:16 PM, David Zeuthen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 18:10 -0700, Elijah Newren wrote: Blessed as far as gnome releases goes means allowed as a hard dependency for modules. PK and PK-gnome are not blessed external dependencies because you said that no hard

Re: Time for the annual bugzilla statistics!

2008-01-08 Thread Elijah Newren
On Jan 8, 2008 4:24 PM, Olav Vitters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following people closed more than 4000 bugs in 2007: 9800 Tom Parker 7047 Susana Pereira 6882 Bruno Boaventura 6649 Pedro Villavicencio For some reason the people making these overviews: 1. Often are at the top

Re: Proposed external dependency: PolicyKit/PolicyKit-gnome

2007-12-21 Thread Elijah Newren
On Dec 20, 2007 8:59 AM, David Zeuthen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I actually asked the release team and got two replies saying external deps are fine and there was no need to bless/ditch such deps. So maybe we want to wait until the 2.24 proposal period for this discussion? I believe you

Re: WAF (Was: build tools)

2007-12-02 Thread Elijah Newren
On Dec 2, 2007 3:46 PM, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In case anyone is interested, feel free to try out a 100% WAF-ied version of gnome-python: http://www.gnome.org/~gjc/gnome-python-2.21.0.tar.bz2 The WAF based tarball (including a self contained waf script, which is

Re: WAF (Was: build tools)

2007-12-02 Thread Elijah Newren
On Dec 2, 2007 5:07 PM, Colin Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2007-12-02 at 16:55 -0700, Elijah Newren wrote: Ooh, I'd love to see timing numbers. The size differences are pretty impressive; it would likely make a noticable impact on times for building releases for garnome users

Re: Extreme memory usage for gnome-panel related apps

2007-11-30 Thread Elijah Newren
On Nov 30, 2007 2:46 PM, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007/11/30, David Zeuthen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeLove to learn more about how you can help fix these things in the GNOME Desktop. Thanks. oh men.. do they really have that.. they must have been in a funny

Re: Request for Rarian external dependancy bump

2007-11-30 Thread Elijah Newren
On Nov 27, 2007 3:30 PM, Don Scorgie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, As some of the eagle-eyed among you may have noticed, I released Rarian 0.7.0 several days ago. Since then I've been working on making yelp work with the (incompatible) new series. I've now done this to the point I'm fairly

Re: TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.20.2 Stable Release [date correction]

2007-11-23 Thread Elijah Newren
On Nov 23, 2007 11:08 AM, Vincent Untz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tarballs are due by Monday November 19th before 23:59 UTC for the GNOME 2.20.2 Stable Release, which will be delivered on Wednesday. Quick correction: This should read Monday November 26th (see also

Re: Bumping avahi requirement for GNOME to 0.6.21

2007-11-14 Thread Elijah Newren
On Nov 14, 2007 9:44 AM, Shaun McCance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, and didn't we agree at the last r-t meeting to have build break requests moved from d-d-l to release-team@, in order to lower the mail s/build break requests/external dependency changes/ What in the world does build break

Re: Bumping avahi requirement for GNOME to 0.6.21

2007-11-13 Thread Elijah Newren
On Nov 13, 2007 12:21 PM, Olav Vitters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In that case I ask to bump it to 0.6.17 +1 for me (needs another +1) Nah, external deps aren't like freeze break requests. Any member of the release team should feel free to update the external deps page or direct anyone else to

Re: Lowering the barrier

2007-11-11 Thread Elijah Newren
On Nov 11, 2007 3:16 AM, Sebastian Pölsterl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Who schrieb: *** In the case of 'Gnome Love' bugs - perhaps people people could offer to 'mentor' on them, so anyone needing to ask questions in attempts to fix them can

Re: Lowering the barrier (was: Re: build systems)

2007-11-10 Thread Elijah Newren
On Nov 10, 2007 7:41 AM, Emmanuele Bassi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 15:06 +0100, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: * GObjects are conceptually difficult when you have standard knowledge of C# or Java you know you don't have to use GObjects with C, right? you can write

Re: Panel Applet Development For Gnomd 2.22

2007-10-09 Thread Elijah Newren
On 10/8/07, Edwin Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been doing a lot of research lately, and have decided that I want to start developing gnome panel applets. Unfortunately, all of the tutorials are outdated (with the latest one I found being dated 15 April 2007). Furthermore, it would

Proposed passing of the baton

2007-09-29 Thread Elijah Newren
Hi all, Recently I proposed to the release team that it's time for someone else to take the role of GNOME's Release Manager. With their agreement, I bring the proposal to the development community at large to have Vincent Untz take the reins. Rock on, Vincent. :-) Elijah

Re: NetworkManager and nm-applet inconsistences in 2.20 jhbuild moduleset

2007-09-21 Thread Elijah Newren
On 9/21/07, Claudio Saavedra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 12:40 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote: you need to change it in jhbuild/modulesets/gnome-2.20.modules Oh, yes. I know. But the question is whether to use the nm-applet branch officially in the module set or not. I'm

Re: NetworkManager and nm-applet inconsistences in 2.20 jhbuild moduleset

2007-09-21 Thread Elijah Newren
On 9/21/07, Claudio Saavedra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd say, that given 2.20 is stable now, using the stable brach of NM(-applet) is the right thing to do. I tried trunk branches for these apps, and they are not dogfoodable to my taste, and probably more appropriate for the 2.22 release set.

Re: Distributed SCM in Gnome (Was: Git vs SVN (was: Can we improve things?))

2007-09-17 Thread Elijah Newren
On 9/17/07, Sebastien Bacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le dimanche 16 septembre 2007 à 09:42 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit : Le samedi 15 septembre 2007, à 21:44 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod a écrit : Ok, lets be fair: most people who care about hacking on GNOME already know git, why should other

Re: Distributed SCM in Gnome (Was: Git vs SVN (was: Can we improve things?))

2007-09-16 Thread Elijah Newren
On 9/16/07, Vincent Untz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le samedi 15 septembre 2007, à 21:44 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod a écrit : Ok, lets be fair: most people who care about hacking on GNOME already know git, why should other options be selected? I don't think it is fair to state this. A lot of

Re: AT-SPI hard code freeze break request

2007-09-15 Thread Elijah Newren
On 9/15/07, Willie Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All: GNOME 2.20.0 is pyatspi's first official release to the world, so we want to get the API as close to AT-SPI as possible. In addition, we want it to support the impending FF3 event type annotation feature. The patches in question

Re: Update version of libgsf for 2.20

2007-09-09 Thread Elijah Newren
On 9/9/07, Lucas Rocha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'd like to suggest updating the minimum and recommended versions of libgsf (external dep) from 1.14.4 to 1.14.5. Reason: it makes librsvg correctly handle compressed SVG images. See bugs #394803 and #473731 for reference. Sounds good, go

Re: MAINTAINERS in svn -- have it or no commit for you

2007-09-03 Thread Elijah Newren
On 9/3/07, Olav Vitters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: New list of missing modules (again, by comparing with jhbuild list): gamin, libxml2, zenity, libsigc++2, libart_lgpl, libxslt Wow, I figured the list would be far larger and not drop so quickly either. That's a small enough list that I'm not

Re: External deps: update poppler

2007-09-03 Thread Elijah Newren
On 9/3/07, Carlos Garcia Campos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, poppler 0.6 has just been finally released. We would like to release evince today depending on it. Poppler glib API has changed again, so we need to update not only the minimum, but the required version. Is it feasible? Updated

Re: MAINTAINERS in svn -- have it or no commit for you

2007-09-02 Thread Elijah Newren
On 9/1/07, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: quote who=Olav Vitters I do understand this is heavy handed way of getting that information. I'd suggest the heavy-handedness is just mistimed -- it would be totally OK to announce that this would happen immediately *after* the release of 2.20,

Re: Requesting UI Freeze break for gnome-panel and gnome-utils

2007-08-27 Thread Elijah Newren
On 8/27/07, Shaun McCance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 23:39 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: Le lundi 27 août 2007, à 23:09 +0200, Jaap Haitsma a écrit : Hi, The gnome-searchtool icon got removed from gnome-icon-theme because it got replaced by the system-search icon.

Re: GNOME 2.20.0 beta 1

2007-08-16 Thread Elijah Newren
On 8/16/07, Kjartan Maraas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tor, 16.08.2007 kl. 12.18 +0200, skrev Frederic Peters: Hello, Kjartan Maraas wrote: I'm still in the process of building the release and have uploaded the modulesets and versions file to the ftp server so far. Hit a few snags

Re: GNOME 2.20.0 beta 1

2007-08-15 Thread Elijah Newren
On 8/15/07, Brian Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just noticed on the 2.19 schedule that we were supposed to release 2.19.90 this past Monday and today was supposed to be the 2.20 beta1 release? There wasn't any announcement on this list, so I haven't yet spun a version of GDM. Is this

Re: Proposed external dependency: libnotify

2007-08-01 Thread Elijah Newren
On 8/1/07, Christian Hammond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the meantime, I'll ask the same question as I did before. Can we just consider libsexy or notification-daemon a blessed dependency given how widespread they both are these days? +1 from me. It's so widespread already that the

Re: LibUnique as blessed dependency

2007-07-14 Thread Elijah Newren
Hi, On 7/12/07, Havoc Pennington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For applications that want to be single instance and can just rely on D-Bus, there's no need to wait for a fancy unique application library - just try to own your app's D-Bus name on startup, and exit anytime you lose

Re: .so versions

2007-07-14 Thread Elijah Newren
On 7/13/07, Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've stopped changing the --version-info in gtkmm at all since a couple of years ago to avoid problems, but I'd really like a simple set of instructions about what to do in our most common cases, with examples of actual --version-info numbers

Re: GNOME 2.19.4 Released!

2007-07-05 Thread Elijah Newren
On 7/5/07, Xavier Bestel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Elijah, Le mercredi 04 juillet 2007 à 15:53 -0600, Elijah Newren a écrit : platform - http://download.gnome.org/platform/2.19/2.19.4/NEWS desktop - http://download.gnome.org/desktop/2.19/2.19.4/NEWS admin- http://download.gnome.org

Re: Module maintenance: problems and oportunities

2007-06-25 Thread Elijah Newren
On 6/25/07, Benoît Dejean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think gnome-love works, there are many bugs marked HELPWANTED or assigned to gnome-love, i've never seen any being solved by someone coming out of the blue. I have. Don't know why the difference exists between our experiences, but I

Re: Module maintenance: problems and oportunities

2007-06-25 Thread Elijah Newren
On 6/25/07, Lucas Rocha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007/6/25, Benoît Dejean [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've always been around multiload_applet2. gnome-applets is a collection of applets and there are already sub-maintainer. I'd like to commit/work/etc on multiload but my patches are stalled on

Re: Gnome panel hacking

2007-06-21 Thread Elijah Newren
On 6/21/07, Havoc Pennington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gianni Moschini wrote: The fixed size respect both. When you open a window, it creates a button of 100 pixels width (in an horizontal panel) Each time you open a new window, it creates a 100 pixels width buttons again, till there is

gtk+ API change; who should fix it? (A.k.a. Why isn't GNOME 2.19.4 released yet?)

2007-06-21 Thread Elijah Newren
Hi, As noted in bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=449318, there was a recent gtk+ API change. jdahlin just barely told me that the changed API has existed since 1998, long before gtk+-2.11.x (and pointed me to http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=447214). This API change breaks

Re: External Dependency Update: libmusicbrainz

2007-06-20 Thread Elijah Newren
On 6/20/07, Ross Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, The latest release of Sound Juicer requires libmusicbrainz 2.1.3 for a new query symbol (used to get the name of the album artist, instead of the name of a track artist). The current minimum is 2.1.2, can that be increased to 2.1.3?

Re: Proposal: Replace scrollkeeper

2007-06-19 Thread Elijah Newren
On 6/19/07, Don Scorgie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, With the recent release of Rarian (new name for spoon) [1], I'd like to propose replacing scrollkeeper with it and moving it to the external dependencies moduleset. Rarian is now on the odd - unstable, even - stable style release cycle.

Re: Gnome panel hacking

2007-06-18 Thread Elijah Newren
On 6/18/07, Diego Escalante Urrelo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wrote about this some months ago: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2007-March/msg00141.html Nobody replied however. Attention all aspiring heroes of GNOME: Fix bug 310809 and fame will be yours. Not only will

Re: Gnome panel hacking

2007-06-18 Thread Elijah Newren
On 6/18/07, Diego Escalante Urrelo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hahaha. Main issue with that bug when I checked it was that there's a lot of discussion that makes aspiring gnome heroes think that they better let it on current heroes and rock stars hands. So if you or anyone can put some nice

Re: shared-mime-info minimum version update

2007-06-18 Thread Elijah Newren
On 6/13/07, Lucas Rocha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hei, I'm ok with just bumping the recommended version. Release team, what do you think? Done; sorry for the slow response. Elijah ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org

Re: Versions of External Dependencies in jhbuild

2007-06-17 Thread Elijah Newren
On 6/16/07, Jaap Haitsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Overhere [1] are the versions of external dependencies listed. I'm guessing that the minimum version should be the one present in jhbuild. This way it can be checked if all the software builds with the minimum version. But for instance

Re: libpcre: external dependency for gnome-system-monitor?

2007-06-08 Thread Elijah Newren
On 6/7/07, Benoît Dejean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le jeudi 07 juin 2007 à 13:17 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit : On 6/7/07, Benoît Dejean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: or use the new GRegex? I think GRegex already requires pcre ? I can see that glib requires pcre 7.0 to build. So

Re: libpcre: external dependency for gnome-system-monitor?

2007-06-08 Thread Elijah Newren
On 6/8/07, Benoît Dejean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's now optionnal but enabled by default. Is that OK ? What does enabled by default mean? Does it mean that it will link to pcre if found and still build if not found, or does it mean that it if pcre is not available then an error will

Re: libpcre: external dependency for gnome-system-monitor?

2007-06-06 Thread Elijah Newren
Benoit, On 5/9/07, Claudio Saavedra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 00:54 +0200, Marco Barisione wrote: Il giorno mar, 08/05/2007 alle 18.26 -0400, Claudio Saavedra ha scritto: gnome-system-monitor is not buildable without libpcre. Is this a required external dependence

Re: External Deps: update pwlib and opal version

2007-06-06 Thread Elijah Newren
On 6/4/07, Damien Sandras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le dimanche 03 juin 2007 à 23:19 -0600, Elijah Newren a écrit : On 6/2/07, Luca Ferretti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Il giorno mar, 29/05/2007 alle 10.37 +0200, Luca Ferretti ha scritto: Current PWLIB: 1.10.7 OPAL

Re: su/sudo wrapper

2007-06-03 Thread Elijah Newren
On 6/3/07, Benoît Dejean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le jeudi 31 mai 2007 à 23:57 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit : Le jeudi 31 mai 2007, 13:07 +0200, Benot Dejean a crit : That's the point: they're good enough to work in most cases, but the last time this topic was discussed, the consensus was

Re: External Deps: increase recommended version for dbus-glib to 0.73

2007-06-03 Thread Elijah Newren
On 5/31/07, Luca Ferretti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Currently, minumum and recommended versions for dbus-glib are 0.71. Reasons to increase recommended version: * as per [1] there was 2 bug fixing updates * telepathy-glib needs 0.72 I suggest to keep 0.71 as minimum version, but

Re: External deps: update poppler

2007-06-03 Thread Elijah Newren
On 6/2/07, Carlos Garcia Campos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, poppler has just released 0.5.9 version. This version has changed the API in the glib bindings and a lot of important bugs have been fixed. Evince now depends on this new version, so I suggest to update both the minimum and

Re: External Deps: update pwlib and opal version

2007-06-03 Thread Elijah Newren
On 6/2/07, Luca Ferretti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Il giorno mar, 29/05/2007 alle 10.37 +0200, Luca Ferretti ha scritto: Current PWLIB: 1.10.7 OPAL: 2.2.8 Suggested PWLIB: 1.11.3 OPAL: 2.3.2 It seems[1] that latest released packages are 1.11.1 and

Re: GNOME Roadmap Draft

2007-05-23 Thread Elijah Newren
On 5/23/07, Lucas Rocha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The GNOME Roadmap draft for 2.20 (and partially for 2.22 and future releases) is available at: http://live.gnome.org/RoadMap/Draft snip Big thanks for all the maintainers/developers who provided the necessary information to build this

Re: Why is gstreamer not an external dependency?

2007-05-21 Thread Elijah Newren
On 5/20/07, Jaap Haitsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Since external dependencies like hal, dbus, cairo etc. are built from tarballs it's much easier to build gnome with jhbuild. I was wondering why gstreamer does not get build from tarballs, because also gstreamer does not follow the gnome

Re: Will gnomescan be integrated into GNOME 2.20?

2007-04-25 Thread Elijah Newren
On 4/25/07, Étienne Bersac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, The problem before integration is that gnome-scan 0.5 is a rewrite. I do not yet have a full featured version of Gnome Scan for Gnome :S. Luckily, gnome scan has been accepted for Google SoC 2007, so i expect great improvement on Gnome

Re: evince branched for 2.18

2007-04-18 Thread Elijah Newren
On 4/17/07, Nickolay V. Shmyrev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all Now Evince development will continue in trunk. For list of planned features see. Mostly we target annotations support and forms http://live.gnome.org/Evince/Roadmap Adding gnome-doc-list as per instructions at

Re: add libcolorblind as an external dependencie

2007-04-18 Thread Elijah Newren
On 4/15/07, Carlos Eduardo Rodrigues Diógenes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Em Dom, 2007-04-15 às 15:39 -0700, Peter Korn escreveu: Hi guys, I'd like to second Behad's question/suggestion - moving this functionality into beryl/compiz makes a lot of sense, especially given the magnification

Information needed: Modules in official GNOME releases but not on the official release cycle

2007-04-18 Thread Elijah Newren
Hi all, So I was trying to improve our release documentation by coming up with a list of modules in official GNOME release sets that do not follow the GNOME release cycle, such as gtk+. We have discouraged adding such modules as time has gone on, but there are still lots of existing modules like

Re: Information needed: Modules in official GNOME releases but not on the official release cycle

2007-04-18 Thread Elijah Newren
On 4/18/07, Behdad Esfahbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pango totally follows GNOME's release cycle. Dasher does too as far as I remember. I updated the page. Thanks for the correction. /me waits for the flood of other clarifications and corrections Elijah

Re: Module proposal: LSR (now being hijacked into a keybinding discussion)

2007-04-14 Thread Elijah Newren
Hi Peter, Wow, these proposals are getting pretty thorough. :) I only have a couple comments... On 4/11/07, Peter Parente [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: == Target LSR relies on modules already included in GNOME releases. One possible new dependency is desktop-file-utils from freedesktop.org

Re: libnotify dependency

2007-04-14 Thread Elijah Newren
On 2/11/07, Jonh Wendell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will libnotify get in Gnome Dependencies? As listed on http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointSeventeen/ExternalDependencies ? We're so fast at responding. ;-) I'm pretty sure someone else asked the same question last fall too. Anyway, I've added it

Re: add libcolorblind as an external dependencie

2007-04-14 Thread Elijah Newren
Hi, On 3/22/07, Carlos Eduardo R. Diógenes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gnome-mag can be builted with libcolorblind support to support image filters for the colorblind. This can be added as an external dependencie. Debian and Ubuntu will ship it in the next release or are shipping (I can't

Re: dropping bug-buddy reports for old version of gnome automatically

2007-04-11 Thread Elijah Newren
On 4/11/07, Federico Mena Quintero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is totally awesome :) I didn't know our Bugzilla infrastructure was so nice. Olav rocks. :-) But to avoid false-positives, we require human intervention (and only a few people have the appropriate privileges) involving

Re: dropping bug-buddy reports for old version of gnome automatically

2007-04-10 Thread Elijah Newren
On 4/9/07, Federico Mena Quintero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El sáb, 07-04-2007 a las 16:39 +0100, Richard Hughes escribió: I'm sure other maintainers must be getting as demoralised as myself when dealing with so many duplicates of a fixed bug. Still, this can be an indication that your

Re: dropping bug-buddy reports for old version of gnome automatically

2007-04-10 Thread Elijah Newren
On 4/8/07, Olav Vitters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Apr 08, 2007 at 04:01:14PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Given the length of Redhat, SuSE and Debian release cycles, this will just make bug-buddy useless for many stable users. Ideally you could Honestly, I think that =2.14

How hard would making lists of major user-oriented changes by feature freeze be?

2007-04-09 Thread Elijah Newren
Hi everyone, Quick question: How hard would it be for you (as project maintainers) to make a list of major user-oriented changes in your module (since the last stable release) and send it to gnome-doc-list by feature freeze? This would include things like changes to the interface, new features

Re: dropping bug-buddy reports for old version of gnome automatically

2007-04-07 Thread Elijah Newren
[Just noticed that Andrew made most of my email obsolete before I finished. Maybe you'll see something useful, though, so I'll still send it.] On 4/7/07, Richard Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2007-04-07 at 17:13 +0200, Paolo Borelli wrote: Personally I am not able anymore to handle

Re: doesn't the session splash disappear too soon?

2007-04-04 Thread Elijah Newren
On 4/4/07, David Prieto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've noticed that when I power on my laptop the session splash after the GDM lasts only some 3 or 4 seconds, but even after that the desktop background takes another 3 or 4 to appear, them 5 to get the panel and another 5 or so to get the

Re: Proposed module: Accerciser

2007-04-03 Thread Elijah Newren
On 4/3/07, Peter Parente [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for creating it. One question. Did you intend to give the Bugzilla module a capital A in Accerciser? It appears to break from the Bugzilla naming convention. Plus our svn module name is accerciser. Will that cause a problem with the

Re: can I cancel the sort on grouped items in the taskbar?

2007-04-02 Thread Elijah Newren
Hi, On 4/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can I cancel the sort on grouped items in the taskbar? This type of question would be better suited for gnome-list@gnome.org, or in bugzilla (don't file a new bug though, this one is already filed). Thanks, Elijah

Re: Proposed module: Accerciser

2007-03-30 Thread Elijah Newren
Hi Peter, Thanks for the thorough proposal. There are three more small steps, though, as per http://live.gnome.org/ReleasePlanning/ModuleProposing: - Add Accerciser to the proposed module list at http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointNineteen/DevelTools - Add Accerciser to the meta-gnome-proposed

Re: Lots of GNOME server*s* downtime: April 1 2007 (not affected: svn.gnome.org)

2007-03-27 Thread Elijah Newren
On 3/27/07, Olav Vitters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ NOTE: Please redirect replies to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] At April 1st the GNOME sysadmins will be upgrading lots of servers from RHEL3/4 to RHEL5. This will obviously cause downtime. The Subversion (svn.gnome.org) will NOT be affected. However,

Re: bugzilla.gnome.org downtime?

2007-03-26 Thread Elijah Newren
On 3/26/07, Richard Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry to spam this list, but it seemed important. I get this on *any* page for bugzilla: Internal Server Error The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. Please contact the

Re: Bugfix release

2007-03-23 Thread Elijah Newren
On 3/23/07, Tristan Van Berkom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the other hand, (I'm not sure if such a system might already be in place...) it might be reasonable to say that a given module might want to rally an extra bugfix release on the said current release - if for example an important bugfix

Re: Bugfix release

2007-03-22 Thread Elijah Newren
On 3/22/07, Alex Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember a while ago some people were talking about how it might be a good idea to dedicate a release cycle to fixing bugs, with a feature freeze in effect. Is there anyone still in support of this idea, or has it been generally discarded? I

Re: Totem branched for 2.18

2007-03-19 Thread Elijah Newren
On 3/19/07, Bastien Nocera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SSIA Adding gnome-doc-list to the cc list; please don't forget them in future branching notices (complete list of who should be cc is in bold at http://live.gnome.org/MaintainersCorner, which is linked to from the bugzilla product overview

Re: Using C++ bindings for desktop/admin/devtools modules

2007-03-17 Thread Elijah Newren
On 3/17/07, Jonathon Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/16/07, Vincent Untz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it make sense to allow the use of gtkmm and other C++ bindings in our desktop/admin/devtools suites? As a frequent user of the gnome/gtk C++ bindings, I have to say that the C++

Re: Problems using gnome-2-18 branch for evolution-data-server in jhbuild

2007-03-17 Thread Elijah Newren
On 3/17/07, Luca Ferretti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems that evo stuff silently branched for GNOME 2.18. Interesting...it appears there may be a bug in evolution, or Harish's mail server. Harish did send an email, and it looks like it was supposed to go to all the appropriate lists (d-d-l,

Re: GNOME 2.20 Python version

2007-03-13 Thread Elijah Newren
On 3/13/07, Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Mar 12, 2007, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote: I'd like to suggest updating jhbuild to install Python 2.5 instead of 2.4 for GNOME 2.20, because: * I don't think Python 2.4 will continue to be maintained; * Distributions that

Re: GNOME 2.20 Python version

2007-03-13 Thread Elijah Newren
On 3/13/07, Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Mar 13, 2007, Michael R. Head wrote: Debian/unstable also still has GNOME 2.14. But can jhbuild GNOME 2.16 and 2.18. ...and would still be able to even if it only had Python 2.3 installed by default: jhbuild builds python as part of

Re: gcalctool (gnome-calculator) branched for GNOME 2.18

2007-03-12 Thread Elijah Newren
Hi Rich, On 3/12/07, Rich Burridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just branched gcalctool (v5.9.14) for GNOME 2.18 Is there any chance we could we get you to make the minor version number for gcalctool match that of GNOME's (e.g. 5.19.x for the next unstable cycle)? Thanks, Elijah

Re: gcalctool (gnome-calculator) branched for GNOME 2.18

2007-03-12 Thread Elijah Newren
On 3/12/07, Rich Burridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Elijah, I've just branched gcalctool (v5.9.14) for GNOME 2.18 Is there any chance we could we get you to make the minor version number for gcalctool match that of GNOME's (e.g. 5.19.x for the next unstable cycle)? Yes. It's funny

Module Requirements [Once upon a time, was: Re: User Documentation Requirements]

2007-03-08 Thread Elijah Newren
After a very long wait... On 10/23/06, Elijah Newren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since I think there is constant confusion about requirements, I'd like to work on the pages here: http://live.gnome.org/ReleasePlanning/ModuleRequirements What I would like to do is put the requirements

Re: About xfrun4 (Xfce4's run app dialog) behaviour

2007-03-07 Thread Elijah Newren
On 3/7/07, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/9/07, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm a GNOME fan, but used Xfce4 for a few weeks due to some of Thunar's magnificence, and decided to try out the entire suite (on Etch). Among others, I fell for it's

Re: cairo 1.4.0 now available

2007-03-06 Thread Elijah Newren
On 3/6/07, Carl Worth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GNOME should be able to update its dependency for cairo from cairo 1.3.16 to cairo 1.4.0, (1.3.16 was a release candidate for 1.4.0---there have not been any API changes between the two versions). Awesome, great work. A few points will be

Re: Updating our list of GNOME contributors

2007-03-06 Thread Elijah Newren
On 3/6/07, Behdad Esfahbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bonus points for making it take less than, ya know, about a million hours to go through the whole list :) Yeah, one-by-one alphabetical order doesn't sound very friendly. /me remembers the old Win95 contributors easter egg... An older

Re: Bumping cairo requirement for 2.18 from 1.3.12 to 1.3.14

2007-02-28 Thread Elijah Newren
On 2/28/07, Frederic Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Behdad Esfahbod wrote: Thought this is automatic. Anyway, please bump. 1.3.14 has been out for a couple of weeks now... No, it isn't. And we haven't yet created a process for fast-tracking these either, though we seemed to have general

Re: Bumping cairo requirement for 2.18 from 1.3.12 to 1.3.14

2007-02-28 Thread Elijah Newren
On 2/28/07, Behdad Esfahbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 14:38 -0700, Elijah Newren wrote: This page can be updated at any time by the release-team. Others not in the release team can update the micro version number of modules if (a) they introduce no other new (or newer

Re: minimal required version of GTK for GNOME 2.18

2007-02-19 Thread Elijah Newren
On 2/19/07, Jani Monoses [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, is there a minimum required GTK+2.0 version that modules in svn trunk should depend on? I could only find the external dependency list in the Why would we want to force people to require a higher version of gtk+ than they need? gtk+

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