Re: Wrapping up Bugzilla migration

2021-05-17 Thread Luis Villa
RIP old buddy! On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 7:45 AM Bartłomiej Piotrowski wrote: > Hi all, > > I have been looking at Bugzilla migration requests today and have some > related announcements. > > First of all, if for some reason you are still using Bugzilla, you > should stop and move to GitLab. I

'social desktop'/open collaboration project?

2009-05-10 Thread Luis Villa
I've not seen anyone here talking about this: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/open-collaboration-services (discussed here: http://dot.kde.org/2009/05/01/social-desktop-starts-arrive ) Has anyone from GNOME talked with them/looked at this/etc.? Luis

Re: Proposing libgdata as a new desktop module

2009-05-09 Thread Luis Villa
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 4:32 AM, Patryk Zawadzki pat...@pld-linux.org wrote: It's not like suddenly gnome.org will start providing all of these [web] services. Why not? http://tieguy.org/blog/2006/07/05/guadec-thoughts-3-where-is-gnome/ Mind you, it would not be easy, but there is no reason

Re: Proposing libgdata as a new desktop module

2009-05-08 Thread Luis Villa
, I use google stuff, like everyone, but I've never once thought 'man, I wish I could access this via gdata instead of pop/imap/web browser'.) On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 2:32 AM, Philip Withnall phi...@tecnocode.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 19:22 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: Lets not fall

Re: Proposing libgdata as a new desktop module

2009-05-08 Thread Luis Villa
2009/5/8 Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org: I think libgdata should be welcome as an optional dependency; having a youtube plugin in totem is great, and it doesn’t make totem almost useless without youtube. Having iPod support in rhythmbox is essential, and it doesn’t make it useless with other

Re: Proposing libgdata as a new desktop module

2009-05-07 Thread Luis Villa
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Philip Withnall phi...@tecnocode.co.uk wrote: 2009/5/7 Johannes Schmid j...@jsschmid.de Hi! While I certainly agree that accessing Google services is important for our desktop I kind of think that it would be a bad signal to include a module whose purpose to

Re: Planning for GNOME 3.0

2009-04-02 Thread Luis Villa
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 02.04.2009, 14:06 +0200 schrieb Johannes Schmid: What about gconf/dconf? Or in other words - does GNOME 3.0 depend on dconf and is gconf deprecated (soon!) or not? No decisions yet, but definitely should be

Re: Planning for GNOME 3.0

2009-04-02 Thread Luis Villa
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 02.04.2009, 14:06 +0200 schrieb Johannes Schmid: What about gconf/dconf? Or in other words - does GNOME 3.0 depend on dconf and is gconf deprecated (soon!) or not? No decisions yet, but definitely should be

Re: bug-buddy integration

2009-03-11 Thread Luis Villa
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 11.03.2009, 23:28 +0100 schrieb Juan Jesús Ojeda Croissier: Apport[1] is a system which is able to send a very complete crash log to a bug tracker system (not necessary the Ubuntu's one). This is working with

Re: bug-buddy integration

2009-03-11 Thread Luis Villa
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Brian Nitz brian.n...@sun.com wrote: Luis Villa wrote: On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 11.03.2009, 23:28 +0100 schrieb Juan Jesús Ojeda Croissier: Apport[1] is a system which is able to send a very

Re: bug-buddy integration

2009-03-11 Thread Luis Villa
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 8:53 PM, Brian Nitz brian.n...@sun.com wrote:  - plug-ins for distro specific capture tools (strace, ktrace, truss, dtrace, mdb, pstack, gdb, dbx,...) I'd note that this data is actually overrated. Useful, yes, but even the primitive information we used to get was

Re: New Desktop Testing team

2009-02-10 Thread Luis Villa
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 4:14 AM, Ara Pulido a...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hello, We are proud to announce that a new GNOME team has been created, focused on desktop testing automation. If you have ever wondered how could you test your application writing scripts that mimic what a normal user would

Fwd: New Desktop Testing team

2009-02-10 Thread Luis Villa
FWIW, this was originally on gnome-announce; for those who aren't on that list (1) you should be (2) here is the version with all the links included ;) -- Forwarded message -- From: Ara Pulido a...@ubuntu.com Date: Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 4:14 AM Subject: New Desktop Testing team

Re: New Desktop Testing team

2009-02-10 Thread Luis Villa
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 9:09 AM, API apinhe...@igalia.com wrote: From: Luis Villa l...@tieguy.org On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 4:14 AM, Ara Pulido a...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hello, We are proud to announce that a new GNOME team has been created, focused on desktop testing automation. If you

Re: quo vadis, docs

2009-02-09 Thread Luis Villa
[Let me preface this by saying that I respect the work the doc team has done, but given that their goals were to help users, I think we can best respect their work by asking the real and hard question of whether or not the docs, as they currently stand, are helping users, and not just glibly

Re: quo vadis, docs

2009-02-09 Thread Luis Villa
2009/2/9 Natan Yellin aan...@gmail.com: On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Dan Winship d...@gnome.org wrote: Dave Neary wrote: - Should we just ditch the docs and declare the UI self-explanatory ? Definitely not. Why not? Seems like no one has ever bothered to file bug reports about the

Re: quo vadis, docs

2009-02-09 Thread Luis Villa
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Matthias Clasen matthias.cla...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Luis Villa l...@tieguy.org wrote: [1] I'm taking for granted that there are in fact no bug reports; I really don't know and haven't looked in a long time, though certainly

Re: quo vadis, docs

2009-02-09 Thread Luis Villa
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Luis Villa l...@tieguy.org wrote: [1] ahem: http://tieguy.org/screenshots/terrible_dialog.png Actually, you know, up now. You can stop throwing tomatoes at me... Luis ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel

Re: Reduced Bugzilla functionality for 6+ months -- acceptable?

2008-12-04 Thread Luis Villa
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 11:00 AM, Olav Vitters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The GNOME Bugzilla is still using 2.20. Current stable upstream is at 3.2. The stable version has several benefits, but overall: * no crappy table locking, while still allowing full text indexing (table locking causes

Re: Reduced Bugzilla functionality for 6+ months -- acceptable?

2008-12-04 Thread Luis Villa
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Olav Vitters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 11:31:28AM -0500, Luis Villa wrote: One question I'd have: are there any steps that can be/will be taken to minimize the pain during the inevitable next upgrade? Commitment to getting changes

Re: Reduced Bugzilla functionality for 6+ months -- acceptable?

2008-12-04 Thread Luis Villa
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Cosimo Cecchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - simple-dup-finder Suggest we move crashes out of Bugzilla and into a separate database (like Socorro). Bugzilla should only be for hand-written input from technical people. Technically, bug-buddy is already capable

Re: Teaching GNOME to students...

2008-11-02 Thread Luis Villa
Very cool! Good luck with the project, Emmanuel. Luis On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Emmanuel Fleury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'm associate professor at Bordeaux University and since few years I'm running a course with few other teachers about 'reading, understanding and managing

Re: GSD should not housekeep the thumbnails

2008-09-16 Thread Luis Villa
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right now .thumbnails grows without limit, which isn't good. The average user is surprised to find a 100 MB thumbnail cache in a hidden directory. Mine is 800M, which is 10% of my entire /home partition. And this

Re: Debian-specific patches for the GNOME packages

2008-09-11 Thread Luis Villa
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 7:48 AM, Vincent Untz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le jeudi 11 septembre 2008, à 10:54 +0200, Josselin Mouette a écrit : Hi guys, it was already requested by a few people in the GNOME community to have a quick access to all patches distros apply. Since we now have a much

Re: Debian-specific patches for the GNOME packages

2008-09-11 Thread Luis Villa
2008/9/11 Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Le jeudi 11 septembre 2008 à 09:01 -0400, Luis Villa a écrit : Is anybody regularly reviewing/triaging those? I assume no, right? 'twould be a great project for somebody. We are trying to forward all those that are relevant for upstream

Re: Proposal: enable accessibility by default for GNOME

2008-07-31 Thread Luis Villa
And login times? Impacted, not impacted? Application performance? (Granted this last one is probably hard to get at, but it still seems important to measure- we are, after all, considering something here that could impact every single application.) Tangentially, I'm disappointed with the 'a user

Re: Proposal: enable accessibility by default for GNOME

2008-07-31 Thread Luis Villa
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 8:27 AM, Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And login times? Impacted, not impacted? Application performance? (Granted this last one is probably hard to get at, but it still seems important to measure- we are, after all, considering something here that could impact

Re: Proposal: enable accessibility by default for GNOME

2008-07-31 Thread Luis Villa
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 8:41 AM, Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 8:27 AM, Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And login times? Impacted, not impacted? Application performance? (Granted this last one is probably hard to get at, but it still seems important to measure

Re: Proposal: enable accessibility by default for GNOME

2008-07-31 Thread Luis Villa
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Mark Doffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, Luis, Luis Villa wrote: And login times? Impacted, not impacted? Application performance? (Granted this last one is probably hard to get at, but it still seems important to measure- we are, after all

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-28 Thread Luis Villa
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: motivating reason for rejection, also... most of the apps we ship are mostly useless to most of our users. Do you think so ? It may be I almost perfectly matched GNOME apps till today :) Looking in Utilities: I rarely use

Re: Need Leadership

2008-06-21 Thread Luis Villa
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Havoc Pennington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, 2008/6/21 Jason D. Clinton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In my opinion, whatever The Next-Gen Gnome is, it isn't going to happen until we really, really have a deep maintenance cycle going on here. That means fixing a

Re: Module proposal: Project Hamster for GNOME 2.24

2008-04-16 Thread Luis Villa
Looks cool. Not really related to 2.24 at all, but have you looked at the 'timeline' stuff nat wrote some years back[1]? Might be interesting to integrate that idea somehow. (Timeline has been on my mind, since I find the shell history meme that is all the rage on planet.gnome to be supremely

Re: Module proposal: Conduit for GNOME 2.24

2008-03-31 Thread Luis Villa
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 7:02 AM, Bastien Nocera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to see the UI reviewed before giving it a +1, as I've had very hard times understanding how to actually make it work. Something a bit more like iSync (at least for the core PIM data) would be nice. +1. I tried

Re: communication/information between forward-looking projects [was Re: Some info (Ref: GSOC 2008 advice)]

2008-03-03 Thread Luis Villa
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 9:35 AM, natan yellin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First of all, I'd just like to point out that I've only been using Linux for about eight months. If anything I say is incorrect, corrections are more than welcome. On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 12:34 AM, Luis Villa [EMAIL

Re: GSOC 2008 advice

2008-02-28 Thread Luis Villa
One followup, one other suggestion, one followup. On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * widgets: Vista, OSX, and KDE4 all have widgets/gadgets/Kthingies that are pretty, very easy to use, very easy to develop (since they are web-based), and which display more

communication/information between forward-looking projects [was Re: Some info (Ref: GSOC 2008 advice)]

2008-02-28 Thread Luis Villa
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Ketil Wendelbo Aanensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm new on this list. Luis Vila encouraged me to send some info to this list, so here goes: Disclaimer: I'm not a developer, just an avid user of Gnome and various eye candy. I especially follow

Re: Tomboy replacement

2008-02-22 Thread Luis Villa
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 5:36 AM, Étienne Bersac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Just rewrite sticky note using Vala, you will make some users happy rather than poisoning d-d-l with flames. :) Don't port sticky notes. It's so 1980s. Tomboy is teh awesome. Seriously, I am very suprised that no

Re: Tomboy replacement

2008-02-22 Thread Luis Villa
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:23 AM, Patryk Zawadzki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 5:36 AM, Étienne Bersac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Just rewrite sticky note using Vala, you will make some

Re: Tomboy replacement

2008-02-22 Thread Luis Villa
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 10:43 AM, Sandy Armstrong Don't port sticky notes. It's so 1980s. Tomboy is teh awesome. Seriously, I am very suprised that no one from the less central languages has tried to port Tomboy to their suggested language of choice (hello,

Re: GNOME's testing strategy for GUIs

2008-02-17 Thread Luis Villa
On Feb 16, 2008 5:00 PM, Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 16, 2008 4:50 PM, Willie Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to see documentation on 'GNOME recommended automated testing' for all the kinds of projects we see in GNOME (including for the various languages). I think

Re: GNOME's testing strategy for GUIs

2008-02-16 Thread Luis Villa
On Feb 16, 2008 4:50 PM, Willie Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to see documentation on 'GNOME recommended automated testing' for all the kinds of projects we see in GNOME (including for the various languages). I think this thread is a great way to try and get community consensus

Re: State of gvfs in Gnome 2.21

2008-02-12 Thread Luis Villa
On Feb 12, 2008 12:58 PM, Kalle Vahlman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's people determined to make this work and working hard to do that, let's rather support them than make them feel rejected. That was absolutely not my intent; if the problem is as bad as was originally implied (that the .0

Re: State of gvfs in Gnome 2.21

2008-02-12 Thread Luis Villa
On Feb 12, 2008 11:15 AM, Matthias Clasen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 12, 2008 10:01 AM, Alexander Larsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 16:13 +0200, Lucas Rocha wrote: I can't say I'm happy about something like that though, since I spent the last 1.5 years or so

Re: State of gvfs in Gnome 2.21

2008-02-12 Thread Luis Villa
On Feb 12, 2008 8:53 AM, Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 08:42 -0500, Luis Villa wrote: On Feb 12, 2008 8:36 AM, Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Despite all the hard work, it doesn't look like the new Nautilus will be ready for GNOME 2.22 without

Re: State of gvfs in Gnome 2.21

2008-02-12 Thread Luis Villa
On Feb 12, 2008 8:36 AM, Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Despite all the hard work, it doesn't look like the new Nautilus will be ready for GNOME 2.22 without regressions. Why aren't we talking about punting it until GNOME 2.23/24? We've never allowed this kind of thing before -

Re: State of gvfs in Gnome 2.21

2008-02-12 Thread Luis Villa
On Feb 12, 2008 9:24 AM, Olav Vitters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 04:13:45PM +0200, Lucas Rocha wrote: I agree. We shouldn'd discard the possibility of either postponing the gvfs-based Nautilus or delaying the .0 release if needed. Obviously, releasing Nautilus with too

Re: About SSL Trick or Treat Dialogs

2007-12-04 Thread Luis Villa
On Dec 4, 2007 11:35 AM, Owen Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 14:29 +, Stef Walter wrote: Dan Winship got me thinking about the unable to verify identify of this certificate dialogs we see in browsers when using self-signed or otherwise unverifiable certificates.

Re: gnome-keyring has SSH, X.509 certificate and key support

2007-12-03 Thread Luis Villa
On Dec 3, 2007 2:26 PM, Stef Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luis Villa wrote: Comment 1: this is awesome. I'm very psyched to finally see proper ssh support, and in general to see better identity/key management in GNOME. This is hugely important- I think much more so than people seem

Re: gnome-keyring has SSH, X.509 certificate and key support

2007-12-02 Thread Luis Villa
On Dec 1, 2007 2:59 PM, Stef Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gnome-keyring 2.22 will include: * A proper SSH agent integrated with the user's login keyring * An X.509 key and certificate store than applications can use and share, and integrated with the user's login. I wanted to

Re: Royal National Institute for the Blind low-vision fonts now under GPL v3 - include in GNOME?

2007-11-25 Thread Luis Villa
This is quite nice, Peter. With the proliferation of free fonts of late, we should definitely look into shipping/bundling some 'recommended' GNOME fonts, particularly this one, since (I assume) it has accessibility benefits. It is interesting to note that (as far as I can see from [1]) these

Re: [gimmie] Re: Proposing Gimmie applet for 2.22 -- check out 0.2.8

2007-11-21 Thread Luis Villa
On Oct 31, 2007 5:18 PM, Alex Graveley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * There is an experimental standalone panel version of Gimmie. This can be branched into a sub-project, or simply not installed by default. I am *not* proposing to expose this panel alternative as part of GNOME. There are

Re: Agnubus?

2007-11-01 Thread Luis Villa
On 11/1/07, J French [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, I'll certainly have a look at those. Offhand (and I really haven't looked at any code yet), I'm thinking it'll probably be easiest to use GIMP as a base and then throw a word processor on top of that (or maybe Inkscape or something else

Re: Module proposal: Empathy for GNOME 2.22

2007-09-27 Thread Luis Villa
On 9/27/07, Andrew Cowie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-09-27 at 10:03 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote: I wouldn't re-license it [there is tons of both context and history here, which the rest of this thread covers. On the topic of licencing, however:] I must admit that as an advocate

Re: Module proposal: Empathy for GNOME 2.22

2007-09-27 Thread Luis Villa
On 9/27/07, Mikael Hallendal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 27 sep 2007 kl. 15.32 skrev Luis Villa: Hi, On 9/27/07, Andrew Cowie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-09-27 at 10:03 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote: I wouldn't re-license it [there is tons of both context and history here, which

Re: Module proposal: Empathy for GNOME 2.22

2007-09-27 Thread Luis Villa
On 9/27/07, Mikael Hallendal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 27 sep 2007 kl. 16.00 skrev Luis Villa: Hi, It is of course their call. And likewise it is the GNOME community's call not to accept libraries licensed as such. We have a very longstanding and very deliberate policy to license our

Re: New clock applet for 2.22

2007-09-25 Thread Luis Villa
On 9/25/07, Ross Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 09:20 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: The screenshot of the calendar does not show the week number (it's useless clutter, relaly). I think the week number is there in the released versoin due to the way the

Re: Online Desktop integration ideas

2007-07-22 Thread Luis Villa
On 7/22/07, Alexander Boström [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sön 2007-07-22 klockan 10:26 -0400 skrev Havoc Pennington: I think when possible, it can be nicer to store stuff online via the online app that edits it - e.g. store photos on Flickr, rather than store photos in a remote filesystem or

Re: Online Desktop integration ideas

2007-07-22 Thread Luis Villa
On 7/22/07, Havoc Pennington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luis Villa wrote: On 7/22/07, Alexander Boström [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sön 2007-07-22 klockan 10:26 -0400 skrev Havoc Pennington: I think when possible, it can be nicer to store stuff online via the online app that edits

Re: GNOME's license and Apache? (Adding Simpy to epilicious)

2007-04-11 Thread Luis Villa
[I think you probably meant desktop-devel-list instead of gnome-devel list; am cc'ing d-d-l.] On 4/11/07, Magnus Therning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (I'm not entirely sure where to send this so pardon the cross-posting.) I'm looking into adding support for Simpy[1] to epilicious (an extension

Re: Discussion for a more robust panel layout

2007-03-20 Thread Luis Villa
On 3/20/07, Manu Cornet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Recently the problem of changes of resolutions has been raised [1] on the usability list. I would like to start a discussion about how to manage the effect of resolution changes on the panel layout better than what we do today. This

Re: Updating our list of GNOME contributors

2007-03-06 Thread Luis Villa
On 3/6/07, Vincent Untz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Do you all remember that we list our contributors in About GNOME? The list of GNOME contributors is probably outdated: many people contributed a lot of stuff in recent years and are not there. It's a shame to not thank them, so we have to

Re: Call for a Gnome Media Center

2007-02-14 Thread Luis Villa
[I'll note that the direction the rest of this thread has gone is indicative of why I'm very, very pessimistic about the long-term health of GNOME right now. Take this as a mild attempt to get back on track by talking about users and user experience instead of capitalization of directories which

prioritization [was Re: Call for a Gnome Media Center]

2007-02-14 Thread Luis Villa
On 2/14/07, Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 11:27 -0500, Luis Villa wrote: [I'll note that the direction the rest of this thread has gone is indicative of why I'm very, very pessimistic about the long-term health of GNOME right now. Take this as a mild attempt

Re: prioritization [was Re: Call for a Gnome Media Center]

2007-02-14 Thread Luis Villa
On 2/14/07, Christian F.K. Schaller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the Elisa hackers are not sitting on their hands Of course. I didn't mean to belittle them, or the mugshot team, or any of the various other teams who are working on furthering GNOME while avoiding desktop-devel. I had written a much

Re: Call for a Gnome Media Center

2007-02-11 Thread Luis Villa
On 2/11/07, Étienne Bersac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, It's more usable that your proposal (get someone to start something from scratch) as it exists, so I don't see your point. Elisa has exactly the same goals as the Apple and Microsoft media centres. Hi, my proposal was just a

Re: slab menu

2007-02-06 Thread Luis Villa
On 2/6/07, Alex Graveley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please constrain useless comments like this to private email. Yeah. That was not constructive. Things that might have been constructive: * here is how slab clones windows, and here is some usability reasoning on why that particular cloned

Re: slab menu

2007-02-06 Thread Luis Villa
On 2/6/07, Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the lack of very basic things like obeying fitts' law when in the panel. FWIW, this is now bug: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=404978 I assumed it was known, but apparently not (because it is a semi-edge case). Lesson: never assume

Re: Boston Summit 2006 is on Echelon's radar

2006-10-15 Thread Luis Villa
I know a couple folks were talking about something like this a few months ago, and I believe some code was even written- Shaun? There were even some less creepy names- heartbeat, maybe? :) [Speaking as someone who wants to observe GNOME from afar, I'm intensely interested in seeing this go

Re: ToPaZ, anyone?

2006-09-22 Thread Luis Villa
On 9/22/06, Alex Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, Brian! Please don't take this the wrong way, but from what I can see, you might as well not even call this GNOME! Not having seen the mockups at all, but... so? I believe we call that 'thinking outside the box'. Luis On Fri, 2006-09-22

Re: Contribution

2006-08-25 Thread Luis Villa
On 8/25/06, Maxim Udushlivy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Johan Dahlin wrote: I'm not sure I see the point of one more ui designer and one more ui loader... Johan I dare to say that I am offering a Porsche 911 while you are talking about broken bicycles ;) You might want to explain

Fwd: [iCommonslab] APC CHRIS NICOL FOSS PRIZE IN 2007

2006-08-24 Thread Luis Villa
Sounds like this is *right* up GNOME's alley- $4K for projects/people doing usability/accessibility work. Luis -- Forwarded message -- From: Fouad Riaz Bajwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Aug 24, 2006 5:20 PM Subject: [iCommonslab] APC CHRIS NICOL FOSS PRIZE IN 2007 To: [EMAIL

Re: downstream bugs [was Re: GnomeClient replacement?]

2006-07-26 Thread Luis Villa
On 7/26/06, Brian Nitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luis Villa wrote: On 7/19/06, Dan Winship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luis Villa wrote: * distros are all crap at getting their bugs upstream, pretty much. (Some are slightly better than others, at various times.) So now that we've got

Re: Putting the 'Mono debate' back on the rails

2006-07-24 Thread Luis Villa
On 7/24/06, Andy Wingo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 16:11 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: parallel-instabllable is the worst idea of software development. See http://ometer.com/parallel.html for the reasons why GNOME does it this way. And forgive me if I

what happened to the build discussion?[was Re: dbus building pains]

2006-07-24 Thread Luis Villa
Tangential to this, there was an awesome BOF at GUADEC about continuous build integration, which hopefully would avoid problems like this. Has there been any news on that front that I missed? :) Thanks- Luis On 7/24/06, Jason D. Clinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After bludgeoning jhbuild to get

Re: what happened to the build discussion?[was Re: dbus building pains]

2006-07-24 Thread Luis Villa
On 7/24/06, Frederic Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luis Villa wrote: Tangential to this, there was an awesome BOF at GUADEC about continuous build integration, which hopefully would avoid problems like this. Has there been any news on that front that I missed? :) Things I know: Thomas

Re: downstream bugs [was Re: GnomeClient replacement?]

2006-07-24 Thread Luis Villa
On 7/19/06, Dan Winship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luis Villa wrote: * distros are all crap at getting their bugs upstream, pretty much. (Some are slightly better than others, at various times.) So now that we've got XML-RPC support in bugzilla, it would be insanely cool if someone could

Re: (Legal) advice needed

2006-07-21 Thread Luis Villa
On 7/21/06, Rouquier Philippe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Here is the problem I've run into. I'm the author of bonfire, an app for burning CD/DVD (http://gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1158). Recently I've been given a CVS account to import it into GNOME CVS. Before I did it, a user

Re: Mac shipments up 12% [Was: focus!]

2006-07-20 Thread Luis Villa
Gartner has the overall PC market up 11% last quarter, so this isn't as impressive as it sounds. http://www.macsimumnews.com/index.php/archive/gartner_apple_sees_154_percent_in_year_over_year_mac_sales/ Still, the 4.6% overall market share in that article is the highest I've seen cited for Apple

Re: Mac shipments up 12% [Was: focus!]

2006-07-20 Thread Luis Villa
On 7/20/06, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: quote who=Luis Villa Gartner has the overall PC market up 11% last quarter, so this isn't as impressive as it sounds. Still, the 4.6% overall market share in that article is the highest I've seen cited for Apple in years. It's the growth

Re: GnomeClient replacement?

2006-07-19 Thread Luis Villa
On 7/19/06, Ben Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, the other thing that the gnome_program_init provides (as I understand it) is the bug-buddy hooks. However, IMHO, this is more of a distro thing. Ubuntu's solution (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomatedProblemReports) seems to be better here,

Re: Mummy, I made a platform in my pants! [Was: focus!]

2006-07-19 Thread Luis Villa
On 7/19/06, Alex Graveley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Respectfully, I don't agree. There is a big set of missing frameworks that stops rich interop in Gnome applications, and generally make applications much harder to write well. All other desktop platforms include at least a subset of

Re: vino

2006-04-22 Thread Luis Villa
Hi, Ted: Judging from the changelog: http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/vino/ChangeLog?rev=1.133view=markup and this bug: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159874 development might best be described right now as 'very slow' :) You can find the primary maintainer's email in there by skimming a

Re: Mono bindings a blessed dependency? [Was: Tomboy in 2.16]

2006-04-22 Thread Luis Villa
[Andrew responded off list, and got it just right, so I'm forwarding.] On 4/21/06, Andrew Sobala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Graveley wrote: HELLO?! Check 1-2-3? The discussion *was* about Tomboy. An small app I wrote that people like, and which could benefit from adoption in

Re: Re:Mono bindings a blessed dependency? [Was: Tomboy in 2.16]

2006-04-20 Thread Luis Villa
On 4/20/06, Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2006-04-20 at 22:38 +0200, David Neary wrote: Hi, Elijah Newren said: But, a more important question: We currently only allow apps using the python bindings into the desktop. Is this true, or is it just because no-one's

Re: Mono bindings a blessed dependency? [Was: Tomboy in 2.16]

2006-04-20 Thread Luis Villa
On 4/20/06, Glynn Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2006-04-20 at 22:28 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: Le jeudi 20 avril 2006 à 14:19 -0600, Elijah Newren a écrit : So, new question we have to address before addressing Alex's proposal: Should Mono be a valid dependency and C# a blessed

(temporary) RETURN OF TINDERBOX MAN

2006-04-16 Thread Luis Villa
Ahem. (picture a burning box on my chest) (also imagine that I am flying, sticking my fist out) (also, imagine that I'm not me, but rather I'm some mild-mannered Belgians. Still flying, though.) http://jhbuild.bxlug.be/builds/2006-04-16-0002/logs/gnome-icon-theme/#install A bit of googling

Overall State of Documentation [was Re: Gnome is a problem for OEMs]

2006-04-14 Thread Luis Villa
On 4/12/06, Brent Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott J. Harmon wrote: Too bad that documentation is horribly out of date. Seems like nobody wants to contribute to documentation these days... Updated PDFs for 2.14 at http://www.gnome.org/~bmsmith/gnome-2-14-pdfs/ Check out

Re: gnome-applets branched

2006-04-13 Thread Luis Villa
Plans! Plans! On 4/13/06, Davyd Madeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gnome-applets has been branched for active development towards GNOME 2.16. --d -- Davyd Madeley http://www.davyd.id.au/ 08B0 341A 0B9B 08BB 2118 C060 2EDD BB4F 5191 6CDA ___

Re: Proposal to add Orca to GNOME 2.16

2006-04-10 Thread Luis Villa
Willie- This sounds awesome. How does it fit with gnopernicus? Should we retire gnopernicus from the release, or do they play nicely together, or...? (Forgive me if this has been discussed before and I missed it.) Luis On 4/10/06, Willie Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi: I'm writing this to

Re: Proposal to add Orca to GNOME 2.16

2006-04-10 Thread Luis Villa
, though, there are some very good reasons for it and we'd do well not to toss it lightly just because we're faced with a difficult choice that the experts appear reluctant to do for us. Luis On Mon, 2006-04-10 at 16:10 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: Willie- This sounds awesome. How does it fit

Re: [gpm] Re: Gnome 2.16 Module Proposal: GNOME Power Manager

2006-04-09 Thread Luis Villa
On 4/9/06, Andrew Sobala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jaap Haitsma wrote: Richard, As far as I understand the code of GPM splitting up GPM in a daemon and a notication area icon/applet would not be so hard. They are pretty independent from each other. The daemon just has to watch

Re: [gpm] Re: Gnome 2.16 Module Proposal: GNOME Power Manager

2006-04-09 Thread Luis Villa
On 4/9/06, Corey Burger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/9/06, Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/9/06, Andrew Sobala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jaap Haitsma wrote: Richard, As far as I understand the code of GPM splitting up GPM in a daemon and a notication area icon

Re: release notes: first draft

2006-03-07 Thread Luis Villa
On 3/7/06, James Henstridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Edward Hervey wrote: revised version 0.3.a-beta-pre25-coma-7: Gstreamer 0.10 will also give users the possibility to use, where patents apply, multimedia plugins distributed by 3rd party vendors to offer support for licensed codecs

Re: new module decisions [was Re: gnome-screensaver]

2006-02-16 Thread Luis Villa
On 2/16/06, Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 13:33 -0700, Elijah Newren wrote: On 2/16/06, Danilo Šegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Vincent, Today at 8:24, Vincent Untz wrote: We'll be trying something new for new modules in 2.16. I think most of

Re: UI Review

2006-02-08 Thread Luis Villa
On 2/8/06, Calum Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 10:25 -0700, Elijah Newren wrote: On 2/7/06, Calum Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uh, we're just over a week *past* UI freeze. ;-) I know, but didn't we always do UI reviews after the freeze, with s/the

Re: NLD10 and GNOME

2006-02-07 Thread Luis Villa
On 2/7/06, JP Rosevear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 10:43 +, Jono Bacon wrote: Hi all, Just a quick question to anyone who may be in the know. After seeing the NLD10 videos, it seems the GNOME in there is rather similar to the mockups shown at

Re: NLD10 and GNOME

2006-02-07 Thread Luis Villa
On 2/7/06, Dan Winship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luis Villa wrote: On 2/7/06, JP Rosevear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The changes that were implemented were not as radical as the mockups. Basically what Nat F. showed in Paris is what was implemented. The code will be released

Re: control-center 2.13.90 released

2006-02-02 Thread Luis Villa
On 2/2/06, Rodney Dawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the hope is to change it back when things get faster then this current change is inflicting unnecessary software churn on users. The hope is to fix all of the problems. Not following the HIG is something that I would consider a problem. I

Re: Splash screen + desktop background + gdm theme for 2.14

2006-01-21 Thread Luis Villa
On 1/21/06, Jaap Haitsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, There is always a competition for the splash screen of a new GNOME release. Wouldn't it be nicer to make this a bit wider such that it includes a desktop background and a GDM theme? That way users get a more visually consistent startup

Re: GStreamer version for 2.14

2006-01-16 Thread Luis Villa
On 1/16/06, Elijah Newren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/16/06, Vincent Untz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They could use basic triaging in the sense that someone should go through them and see what applies to the 0.10 version. I think that you'd find most GStreamer bug triagers to mark them

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