Re: GNOME user survey 2011 (v6)

2011-10-19 Thread Mark
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 01:09:18AM +0200, Mark wrote: Some facts. 1. Gnome wants feedback but any feedback gathered online is non representative. It has to be gathered from a non biased site like cnn.com-_- guess

Re: GNOME user survey 2011 (v6)

2011-10-18 Thread Mark
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:17 AM, Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote: There's been a lot of work done to improve GNOME 3 over the last 6 months. A lot of the complaints of GNOME 3.0 have been already addressed. Why not just do it after (even more!) distros ship GNOME 3.2? The first

Re: GNOME user survey 2011 (v6)

2011-10-18 Thread Mark
, open and stating facts. Kind regards, Mark ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name System Settings by GNOME

2011-07-28 Thread Mark
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 8:04 AM, Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org wrote: On Monday, July 25, 2011 10:30:46 Lydia Pintscher wrote: This whole debate is way too heated and I'd like to take this out ofthe arena. Are there 2 or 3 people on the GNOME side that areavailable to talk this through and

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name System Settings by GNOME

2011-07-23 Thread Mark
this a good solution? Regards, Mark ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

General Observation in Gnome3/Fedora 15 beta

2011-04-24 Thread Mark W. Gardner
log-off from the pull-down menu, confirm, and then the above mentioned commands appear. A sincere thank you to the developers for all of your efforts; Gnome3 shows great promise, and is already very good in a first-out 3.0 version. Cheers, Mark W. Gardner

Help make this document complete (default GNOME keyboard shortcuts on wiki)

2010-10-17 Thread Mark
Hi, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_keyboard_shortcuts It would be nice to get that list complete and accurate for _default_ GNOME shortcuts. If GNOME has the shortcut but it's undefined at default then please say that in the list. Kind regards, Mark

Gnome, have you lost your FREAKING MIND!

2010-02-08 Thread Mark
Hi, Now you've really done it, you've got me mad! Lets start... 1. It took ~7 YEARS to get multiple line truncation in pango, glib then gnome! Even then it barely made it in 2. Some person had the not so bright idea of disabling icons for the system menu and not for the rest causing odd menus 3.

Re: [Freeze break request] Nautilus: do not put a frame around images that have an alpha plane

2009-09-16 Thread Mark
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Patryk Zawadzki pat...@pld-linux.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 9:06 PM, Frederic Peters fpet...@gnome.org wrote: Jaap A. Haitsma wrote: Attached a patch that makes sure that images don't get a frame. Currently larger images than 128 pixels will always get

D-Bus replacement for AT-SPI Accessibility

2009-02-17 Thread Mark Doffman
is accessibility-at...@lists.linux-foundation.org. Thanks Mark ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Proposal: enable accessibility by default for GNOME

2008-07-31 Thread Mark Doffman
. This is the important part really. Bonobo servants might be very large, and this, I think, is where ORBit/Bonobo gets its reputation for being heavy. However, if a11y goes unused there shouldn't be any created. I've cc'd Mark Doffman for his imput as he's probably got the most experience profiling current

Re: Proposal: enable accessibility by default for GNOME

2008-07-31 Thread Mark Doffman
of users to turning accessibility on by default. This is greatly outweighed by the benefits to new users who require the accessibility support. Luis On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:29 AM, Mark Doffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, Rob Taylor wrote: Hmm, my take here is that the current

Re: Tomboy replacement

2008-02-22 Thread Mark Fink
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 5:24 AM, Patryk Zawadzki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 3:07 AM, Mark Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Curtis Hovey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 20:41 -0500, Mark Fink wrote: I've just started

Re: Tomboy replacement

2008-02-22 Thread Mark Fink
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Sandy Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/2/21 Mark Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've never written a program before so I also need some help. Also I need a place to put it on the web. SourceForge and Google Code provide free open source project hosting

Tomboy replacement

2008-02-21 Thread Mark Fink
in a note taking program. Thanks, Mark Fink ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Extreme memory usage for gnome-panel related apps

2007-12-02 Thread Mark
for now it cross compiles into c but its a mistake to assume its just syntactic sugar! So that means that (for now) it is syntatic sugar and is basically c. so the compiled program has the memory and speed advantages of c. ___ desktop-devel-list

Re: Extreme memory usage for gnome-panel related apps

2007-12-02 Thread Mark
Vala of course - http://live.gnome.org/Vala if you like c#/java but want c speed and efficiency then there is no better language Interesting. i've read it and saw a few examples but am not getting it completely.. If i'm correct (?) than the you write vala coding which is converted to c

Extreme memory usage for gnome-panel related apps

2007-11-30 Thread Mark
// begin note i posted this in the fedora-list first but wasn't getting reply's that are discussing what i say below. And for the memory (in the text below).. Using it all up doesn't mean that it's used good. See it like your a rich guy. you can spend it all at once or just go easy on it. i would

Re: Extreme memory usage for gnome-panel related apps

2007-11-30 Thread Mark
2007/11/30, Benjamin Gramlich [EMAIL PROTECTED]: About three months ago, Vincent proposed changes to the gnome-panel that would remove the bonobo usage and switch to d-bus, as well as create a new library/compatibility layer to handle applets [1]. It seems that this high memory consumption is

Re: Extreme memory usage for gnome-panel related apps

2007-11-30 Thread Mark
2007/11/30, Ross Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mark, Please reply-to-all, you forgot to include the lists. Oke Similar usage, some higher some lower. Hmm.. sad Oke the first valgrind results of nm-applet. it has leaks. ==5832== ERROR SUMMARY: 10 errors from 2 contexts (suppressed: 123 from 2

Re: Extreme memory usage for gnome-panel related apps

2007-11-30 Thread Mark
2007/11/30, Ross Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 10:29 +0100, Mark wrote: Oke the first valgrind results of nm-applet. it has leaks. ==5832== ERROR SUMMARY: 10 errors from 2 contexts (suppressed: 123 from 2) ==5832== malloc/free: in use at exit: 517,672 bytes in 7,809

Re: Extreme memory usage for gnome-panel related apps

2007-11-30 Thread Mark
2007/11/30, David Zeuthen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Markg85, On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 21:52 +0100, Mark wrote: It's all a mather of time, money, patience and programming skills and i can't do it (yet) I must applaud you for your enthusiasm. However, it's a bit disruptive with these kind

Re: System event sounds / audio feedback

2007-11-28 Thread Mark Howard
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 23:57:10 +, Bastien Nocera wrote: Rodney was working on such a spec. But I'll give you £50 if you manage to create/gather up a sound theme of quality matching the current gnome-audio sounds, and that's actually shippable without copyright problems by distributions.

Deja-vu: gtk-engines Clearlooks changes

2007-09-08 Thread Mark Rosenstand
noticed because the distros ship their own themes, but I could be wrong. In case I'm not: what's going on? [1] http://borkware.net/~mark/screendumps/gsm-gnome-2.16.png [2] http://borkware.net/~mark/screendumps/gsm-gnome-2.20.png ___ desktop-devel-list

100% CPU usage while copying 8 Gigabytes

2007-04-29 Thread Mark
/show_bug.cgi?id=332517 any solution for it? Thanx, Mark ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: vinagre (vnc/rdp client)

2007-04-24 Thread Mark McLoughlin
do I get at this history with svn?) Cheers, Mark. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: add libcolorblind as an external dependencie

2007-03-23 Thread Mark McLoughlin
. would I only need to figure out my filter preference once, or would it always be useful to me to try all filters? Cheers, Mark. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: libtorch: an asynchronous dns resolver library

2007-03-20 Thread Mark Drago
to something you are more than likely going to have to resolve a name or two. Just my 2 cents. Thanks, Mark Drago. [1] http://gnetlibrary.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF

Re: gnome-panel menu lockdown proposal

2007-01-08 Thread Mark McLoughlin
files :-) Cheers, Mark. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Proposing GtkUnique 1.0 as a blessed external dependency

2006-11-14 Thread Mark Rosenstand
On Tue, 2006-11-14 at 12:33 +, Don Scorgie wrote: On Tue, 2006-11-14 at 12:29 +, Ross Burton wrote: On Tue, 2006-11-14 at 12:24 +, Richard Hughes wrote: as some maintainers of GNOME modules have expressed their interest in using GtkUnique[1] as a dependency for their

Re: Getting a list of 2.18 new features

2006-11-09 Thread Mark Drago
this a reality. I am curious to know who is working on this and how I might be able to help. I have been building Gnome 2.17 with jhbuild with the idea that I would try to resurrect my previous work, but if someone else is actively working on it I would like to help them. Mark. [1] http://mail.gnome.org

gnome-menus branched for 2.16

2006-11-01 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi, gnome-menus has branched - 2.16 stuff on the gnome-2-16 branch. Cheers, Mark. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Proposal: gnome-main-menu for inclusion in GNOME 2.18

2006-10-20 Thread Mark Rosenstand
On Thu, 2006-10-19 at 17:40 -0400, Jim Krehl wrote: I would like to propose that the gnome-main-menu project -- found in gnome-cvs under the module slab -- to be included in GNOME 2.18. Any chance you could do a release first, so non-{SUSE,CVS} users can try it out? :)

Re: Proposal to enable accessibility by default for GNOME development releases

2006-10-15 Thread Mark Rosenstand
On Sun, 2006-10-15 at 02:42 +0200, Sven Herzberg wrote: Hey Willie, Am Samstag, den 14.10.2006, 19:18 -0400 schrieb Willie Walker: As part of the GNOME Boston 2006 Accessibility Summit, and as part of the larger GNOME testing discussions, we would like to propose that accessibility is

vino branched for 2.16

2006-10-10 Thread Mark McLoughlin
to ban my IP address :-) Cheers, Mark. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Planning Gnome Scan Inclusion

2006-09-15 Thread Mark Rosenstand
On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 14:54 +0200, Étienne Bersac wrote: Hello all ! Since march, i'm designing and developping a Gnome Scan infrastructure. See http://home.gna.org/gnomescan/index and Google gnome scan search result in general. I've been sponsored by Google do work on this project this

Re: Putting the 'Mono debate' back on the rails

2006-07-24 Thread Mark McLoughlin
. We'd all agree that it's best to avoid breaking ABI where possible, but if an ABI has to be broken, then making it possible to parallel install the library is the only sane way to lessen the pain. Cheers, Mark. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list

Re: 'GNOME', 'Gnome' [Was: Gnome 2]

2006-04-23 Thread Mark Rosenstand
On Sun, 2006-04-23 at 18:59 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote: On Sun, 2006-04-23 at 16:05 +0100, Alan Horkan wrote: On Sun, 23 Apr 2006, Jeff Waugh wrote: I would more readily support an entirely new name. The only way I could see ever that happening was under the threat of legal action.

Re: GNOME Power Manager

2006-04-22 Thread Mark Rosenstand
On Sat, 2006-04-22 at 00:28 +0100, Andrew Sobala wrote: This situation is slightly different in that we're replacing functionality; my reaction would be that the small number of users still using 2.4 kernels can install battstat (hell, they've got it installed already; they just need to

Re: GNOME Power Manager

2006-04-22 Thread Mark Rosenstand
On Sat, 2006-04-22 at 10:01 -0600, Elijah Newren wrote: On 4/22/06, Davyd Madeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remember to consider !Linux. Linux is currently the only HAL-supporting platform (yes, others are close, but will they be finished for our release timeframe?). I didn't forget it; I

New schemas aren't picked up by running gconfd-2 [was Re: rawhide report: 20060125 changes]

2006-01-26 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi, Just a heads up to people here, it looks like switching to merged subtree mode in gconf has seriousy exasperated the old gconfd-2 doesn't pick up new schemas issue. I've upstreamed the bug to here: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=328697 Cheers, Mark

Re: New schemas aren't picked up by running gconfd-2 [was Re: rawhide report: 20060125 changes]

2006-01-26 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 12:04 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le jeudi 26 janvier 2006 à 09:01 +, Mark McLoughlin a écrit : Hi, Just a heads up to people here, it looks like switching to merged subtree mode in gconf has seriousy exasperated the old gconfd-2 doesn't pick up new

Re: New schemas aren't picked up by running gconfd-2 [was Re: rawhide report: 20060125 changes]

2006-01-26 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 12:21 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le jeudi 26 janvier 2006 à 11:12 +, Mark McLoughlin a écrit : Isn't it possible for you to send SIGHUP in the post-installation scripts? Yeah, but it would be easier if gconftool-2 did it rather than adding it to each

Re: New schemas aren't picked up by running gconfd-2 [was Re: rawhide report: 20060125 changes]

2006-01-26 Thread Mark Rosenstand
On 1/26/06, Mark McLoughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 12:21 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: Debian ships a gconf-schemas script that takes care of everything that is needed for a package post-installation. It takes the schemas in a specific directory (in /usr/share

Re: New modules in 2.14

2006-01-18 Thread Mark Rosenstand
On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 22:37 -0500, Ryan Lortie wrote: First, I don't think that g-p-m itself and the technologies that it depend on are mature enough that we should standardise on any particular solution yet. g-p-m is one way of cracking the power management egg and I think there are a lot of

gnome-menus branched for 2.12

2006-01-13 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi, gnome-menus has branched - 2.12 stuff on the gnome-2-12 branch. Cheers, Mark. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

vino branched for 2.12

2006-01-13 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi, vino has branched - 2.12 stuff on the gnome-2-12 branch. Cheers, Mark. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Special folders in gnome

2006-01-13 Thread Mark Rosenstand
On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 16:59 +0100, Mattias Eriksson wrote: fre 2006-01-13 klockan 14:10 + skrev Richard Hughes: If the person uses a shell script, or KDE program, and it comes up with /Photos rather than %translation%, then the user should understand it's because they are not using a

Re: Trying to reach consensus for the proposed modules

2006-01-12 Thread Mark Rosenstand
On Thu, 2006-01-12 at 01:35 +, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote: Let's see. If I'm not mistaken, the modules wrapping gnome desktop libraries are: - gnomeapplet - gnomeprint, gnomeprint.ui - gtksourceview - wnck - totem.plparser - gtop - nautilusburn - mediaprofiles

Re: Gnome-session 2.12.0 STILL in 2.13.4 release

2006-01-08 Thread Mark McLoughlin
does NOT have the crash-on-critical-warnings code. Who can make a gnome-session tarball for us? I'll do one right now. Mark: do you want me to handle the next gnome-session releases for this cycle? (Next cycle, we'll have a replacement for it, won't we ;-)) Thanks Vincent

Re: Proposing libnotify and notification-daemon for GNOME 2.14

2005-12-12 Thread Mark Rosenstand
While not a GNOME component, the upcoming gajim(.org) 0.9 release also uses it. -- .-.Mark Rosenstand(-.) oo| cc ) /`'\(+45) 255 31337 3-n-( (\_;/) [EMAIL PROTECTED] _(|/`- ___ desktop-devel

GConf merged tree with split translations

2005-12-11 Thread Mark McLoughlin
a shorter login time. Please file bugs if any issues do crop up. Thanks, Mark. [1] - http://www.gnome.org/~markmc/code/gconf-merged-tree-split-translations.patch [2] - http://www.gnome.org/~lcolitti/gnome-startup/analysis/ ___ desktop-devel-list

Re: gnome-user-share: and now?

2005-12-01 Thread Mark Rosenstand
instead), it beats the g-s-t alternative by far, at least in my book. -- .-.Mark Rosenstand(-.) oo| cc ) /`'\(+45) 255 31337 3-n-( (\_;/) [EMAIL PROTECTED] _(|/`- ___ desktop-devel-list mailing

Re: gnome-user-share: and now?

2005-11-30 Thread Mark Rosenstand
On Wed, 2005-11-30 at 13:01 +0100, Rodrigo Moya wrote: On Wed, 2005-11-30 at 02:26 +0100, Mark Rosenstand wrote: Owen Williams wrote: ~/Shared makes a lot of sense to me. ~/public_html has worked for a long time for web servers, and OSX uses a similar scheme (~/Public and also

Re: gnome-user-share: and now?

2005-11-29 Thread Mark Rosenstand
something cool. It already uses ~/Public and publishes it through Avahi or Howl. -- .-.Mark Rosenstand(-.) oo| cc ) /`'\(+45) 255 31337 3-n-( (\_;/) [EMAIL PROTECTED] _(|/`- ___ desktop-devel-list

Re: Gnome 2.14 Module Proposal: Nautilus-actions

2005-11-28 Thread Mark Rosenstand
Ross Burton wrote: On Mon, 2005-11-28 at 13:47 +0100, RUAUDEL Frédéric wrote: (not sure how it works exactly) or make it only appears in the Edit menu of the window if possible... what do you think ? It should be possible (if not currently, then maybe with a patch) to add items to the

Re: Making GNOME crash

2005-11-11 Thread Mark McLoughlin
useful too, but it should be used by people hacking on the code in question rather than making life more difficult for others. Cheers, Mark. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel

Re: Gnome 2.14 Module Proposal: Deskbar Applet

2005-10-25 Thread Mark McLoughlin
think it is unaffortable in desktop. We already have at least one python app in the desktop - gmenu-simple-editor. An applet is different, though, because its started at login and remains running for the entire session so any memory usage problems are more keenly felt. Cheers, Mark

Re: Fish in GNOME Panel

2005-10-11 Thread Mark McLoughlin
is not like the others, one of these things just doesn't belong. I'll even do the work to move it. Poor Wanda. I think she's too old to move, personally. Her frail heart just couldn't take it. Perhaps its just time to dump the poor old dear ? Cheers, Mark

Re: MOTD implementation in gnome-session

2005-10-04 Thread Mark McLoughlin
, or an ugly dialog if not. The 2 new files are to be placed in gnome-session/gnome-session I the first thing worth discussing is why?. Why is it a good idea to show /etc/motd at login? Thanks, Mark. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel

Re: MOTD implementation in gnome-session

2005-10-04 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Wed, 2005-10-05 at 01:53 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Mark McLoughlin I the first thing worth discussing is why?. Why is it a good idea to show /etc/motd at login? It's very handy for sysadmins to display information to the user at login. I've used zenity and very bad gnome

Re: Quality of Service in GNOME

2005-09-16 Thread Mark Drago
it handles packets with different TOS flags, look here: http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.qdisc.classless.html Mark Drago. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http

Re: tinderbox breakages in moz, soup, gnome-menus, libgnomeprint

2005-08-14 Thread Mark McLoughlin
. The code looks fine and compiles without any warnings or errors here ... Can I see the full log? Thanks, Mark. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: tinderbox breakages in moz, soup, gnome-menus, libgnomeprint

2005-08-14 Thread Mark McLoughlin
that makes it compile (attached); not sure if it's correct as I'm not sure whether it's all supposed to be wrapped by an #ifdef or if none of it is. Ah, good stuff. Patch looks good to commit, thanks. Thanks, Mark. ___ desktop-devel-list

Re: Demanding API documentation

2005-08-02 Thread Mark McLoughlin
for a module was in that state, it would be very easy for maintainers themselves (rather than the release team) to enforce the expectation that new APIs should be accompanied by documentation. Cheers, Mark. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel

Re: Gnome Session Services Framework

2005-07-28 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi Colin, On Wed, 2005-07-27 at 16:03 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: On Wed, 2005-07-27 at 17:16 +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote: For various reasons I'm not entirely sure it makes sense to use D-BUS notification: - We're not actually interested in using the D-BUS service acquired

Re: Dumping gnome-smproxy in 2.14

2005-07-28 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Thu, 2005-07-28 at 15:22 +0100, ghee teo wrote: Mark McLoughlin wrote: Hi Ghee, On Thu, 2005-07-28 at 11:51 +0100, ghee teo wrote: (a) Create a new CVS module that just contains smproxy I've no problem at all with you doing this. However, do note

Re: Dumping gnome-smproxy in 2.14

2005-07-28 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Thu, 2005-07-28 at 15:32 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: You misunderstood what Mark said. It will be up to the maintainer of that module (a priori, yourself) to handle bugs. However, he pointed you to a bunch of bugs with existing patches. If you want the bugs to stay, you're free

Re: Detecting GNOME

2005-07-27 Thread Mark McLoughlin
way to tackling such issues, consider Michael's effort to provide a desktop-lauch script which application developers could use to display a given URI in the correct browser: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xdg/2004-August/004489.html Cheers, Mark. [1] - These threads: http

Re: Gnome Session Services Framework

2005-07-27 Thread Mark McLoughlin
shut down gracefully. Thoughts? Cheers, Mark. [1] - I think we'll wind up needing to fix this for D-BUS somehow anyway ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Dumping gnome-smproxy in 2.14

2005-07-25 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi, I've removed gnome-smproxy from gnome-session HEAD now. Cheers, Mark. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: finally dumped (was: Re: Dumping gnome-smproxy in 2.14)

2005-07-25 Thread Mark McLoughlin
://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2005-July/msg00553.html Mark. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Old versions of GNOME [was: Re: gtk 2.8 for gnome 2.12]

2005-07-22 Thread Mark McLoughlin
by a customer and don't introduce significant risk of de-stabilising the product. That's good risk management. Shipping tarball releases of a free-for-all stable branch wouldn't be good risk management. Cheers, Mark. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list

Re: Icons problem with GNOME 2.10 (Fedora Core 4)

2005-07-22 Thread Mark McLoughlin
like it still exists to me ... Cheers, Mark. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Dumping gnome-smproxy in 2.14

2005-07-22 Thread Mark McLoughlin
here? And to what end? Cheers, Mark. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Dumping gnome-smproxy in 2.14

2005-07-22 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Fri, 2005-07-22 at 09:57 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: Honestly, any reason to wait to 2.14? I'd like to, but I just don't think its very good form to do it post feature freeze. Mark. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list

Re: Dumping gnome-smproxy in 2.14

2005-07-22 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Fri, 2005-07-22 at 15:13 +0100, ghee teo wrote: Hi Mark, Do you know any of the major apps such as Mozilla, xterm require gnome-smproxy to even work for session restoration? Incredibly, Mozilla/Firefox doesn't, but xterm does :-) That's probably even more reason

Re: Dumping gnome-smproxy in 2.12 [was Re: Dumping gnome-smproxy in 2.14]

2005-07-22 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Fri, 2005-07-22 at 15:26 +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Fri, 2005-07-22 at 15:13 +0100, ghee teo wrote: Hi Mark, Do you know any of the major apps such as Mozilla, xterm require gnome-smproxy to even work for session restoration? Incredibly, Mozilla/Firefox doesn't

Re: gtk 2.8 for gnome 2.12

2005-07-21 Thread Mark McLoughlin
to participate and strengthen this decision making process of ours is to take part in the discussion as it happens ... not come along after the fact and try to undermine the decision. Good Luck, Mark. [1] - And I do apologise if I'm recalling incorrectly

Re: gnome-keyring-daemon

2005-07-19 Thread Mark McLoughlin
about your problems with a GNOME version which is three stable releases behind the current development release) Thanks, Mark. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-19 Thread Mark McLoughlin
be built, then *they* can report *that* issue. That's going to involve a lot less problems reported and maintainers can be confident that by fixing the issues they're actually doing something useful. Cheers, Mark. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop

Re: Gnome Session Services Framework

2005-07-19 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi, So, I've been thinking about what we're trying to achieve here and whether the current proposal really meets our goals, so I thought we'd try and just write down exactly what the goals are. Here's a first attempt ... Cheers, Mark. Goals: == 1. Separate notion

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-19 Thread Mark Drago
probably need to be one more package which does the post-install things that James mentions, installs a .jhbuildrc file somewhere, installs a GDM session file, etc. I'll try to spend some time this week and see if I can get this thing to a point where it is useful. --Mark. [Note that if done well

Re: Gtk+ 2.8 for GNOME 2.12

2005-07-18 Thread Mark McLoughlin
don't think that continuing this uncertainty is useful to anyone at this point. Cheers, Mark. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: [PATCH] tooltip in clock applet

2005-07-18 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 14:38 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: On Mon, July 18, 2005 14:19, Mark McLoughlin said: Hi, On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 14:09 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: Would it be okay for you to move the clock applet and the notification area in gnome-applets at the beginning of 2.13

Re: Gtk+ 2.8 for GNOME 2.12

2005-07-18 Thread Mark McLoughlin
and the caveat isn't any more important here, really. So, if people choose to ignore the caveat for other modules, then they can ignore it for GTK+ 2.8 too. This is just our ass-protecting way of saying Yes, GNOME 2.12 will ship with GTK+ 2.8 :-) Cheers, Mark

Re: Gtk+ 2.8 for GNOME 2.12

2005-07-18 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 09:05 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: [I'm not opposed to 2.7 going in anymore- what bugs there are seem to be getting fixed very promptly- so this is just for information.] On 7/18/05, Mark McLoughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 14:01 +0200, Vincent Untz

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-18 Thread Mark Drago
weren't of high quality as far as packages go, but they would install all of the files. I'm still not terribly sure why this didn't work out. There has to be some fundamental thing that I'm missing. -- Mark Drago signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Recent Files Manager in libegg

2005-07-15 Thread Mark McLoughlin
to take up the work to re-design the recently-used API and get that API into the platform, but I don't see where rationale for changing the file format. Cheers, Mark. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org

Re: build break: gnome-keyring

2005-07-15 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 13:34 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote: Mark, gnome-panel needs this too, to avoid panel-run-dialog.c:377: warning: implicit declaration of function 'strcasecmp' Probably best to just use g_ascii_strcasecmp() - feel free to commit a patch to do that. Cheers, Mark

Re: Gnome Session Services Framework

2005-07-13 Thread Mark McLoughlin
screen at the moment, which basically means the splash screen will be empty. Any plans to fix that or are we saying that the icons in the splash screen are effectively useless? - How do you switch WMs with this? :-) Sorry about the lng mail :/ Cheers, Mark

Re: Gnome Session Services Framework

2005-07-13 Thread Mark McLoughlin
forgotten what the details is here. Could you fill us in? Are you talking about when ATs get started, and if so, when is the ideal time to start them and why? Thanks, Mark. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http

Re: Gnome Session Services Framework

2005-07-13 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi Bill, Thanks, this sounds fairly straightforward. On Wed, 2005-07-13 at 14:24 +0100, Bill Haneman wrote: Hi Mark: Thanks for the reply. Yes, I was thinking about when the ATs are started. On thinking further I realize that my memory of AT startup order issues has become fuzzy

Re: new gnome-common release?

2005-06-20 Thread Mark McLoughlin
are the preferred base for creating RPMs, so as long as gnome-common is required for a build, there should be releases for it IMO. gnome-common isn't required to build tarballs, only from CVS. Mark. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list

Re: GNOME 2.11/2.12 targeting GTK+ 2.8 (ie cairo based)

2005-06-16 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hey, This thread has just petered out, but Alex still needs an answer. On Fri, 2005-06-10 at 14:59 +0200, Alexander Larsson wrote: On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 15:53 +0200, Alexander Larsson wrote: On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 13:50 +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote: - The benefit of being able

Re: Bugzilla: Reducing bugspam and finding patches

2005-06-15 Thread Mark McLoughlin
and automatically mark them as duplicates ... that way its always in the database for someone to find later. Cheers, Mark. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Bugzilla: Reducing bugspam and finding patches

2005-06-15 Thread Mark McLoughlin
g_signal_emit_valist gnome-panel ... Cheers, Mark. I suspect this heuristic would fail for a number of at-spi/accessibility bugs as well, since the stack frames (especially in non-debug builds) can look the same for quite different root causes, if things go haywire in a CORBA call

vino branched

2005-05-19 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi, I've created a gnome-2-10 branch for vino. Thanks, Mark. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

libwnck branched

2005-05-17 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi, I've created a gnome-2-10 branch for libwnck. Thanks, Mark. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Application Icons?

2005-05-09 Thread Mark McLoughlin
and not pre-filter them in any way? Question isn't appropriate for a developer's list. Try nautilus-list. Thanks, Mark. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

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