Re: GNOME Goal Proposal: Port to GMenu

2012-05-07 Thread Andrew Cowie
On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 13:55 +0100, Allan Day wrote: It would be great if we could improve on the current situation and ensure that all our applications present an appropriate set of items in their GMenu. Is there a reference application doing this right? I ask this because Epiphany¹ has no

Re: GNOME Goal Proposal: Port to GMenu

2012-05-07 Thread Allan Day
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Andrew Cowie and...@operationaldynamics.com wrote: On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 13:55 +0100, Allan Day wrote: It would be great if we could improve on the current situation and ensure that all our applications present an appropriate set of items in their GMenu. Is

Re: GNOME Goal Proposal: Port to GMenu

2012-05-07 Thread Matteo Settenvini
Il giorno lun, 07/05/2012 alle 16.15 +1000, Andrew Cowie ha scritto: I ask this because Epiphany¹ has no menu, but does and a funky button over on the right that, upon investigation, turns out to be a menu has useful things like add bookmark ... but not preferences! Which, eventually and quite

Re: GNOME Goal Proposal: Port to GMenu

2012-05-07 Thread Florian Müllner
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Andrew Cowie Is there a reference application doing this right? There are two paths available to applications - (1) replace the menu bar entirely, or (2) move some items to the app menu. For

Re: GNOME Goal Proposal: Port to GMenu

2012-05-07 Thread Florian Müllner
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Matteo Settenvini matteo...@member.fsf.orgwrote: By the way, and slightly unrelated: F10 allows me to pop up the first menu, and ALT+letter to open a specific one by accelerator. What is the corresponding shortcut for the upper menu? SuperF10 to open, arrow

Re: GNOME Goal Proposal: Port to GMenu

2012-05-07 Thread Allan Day
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Matteo Settenvini matteo...@member.fsf.org wrote: Il giorno lun, 07/05/2012 alle 16.15 +1000, Andrew Cowie ha scritto: I ask this because Epiphany¹ has no menu, but does and a funky button over on the right that, upon investigation, turns out to be a menu has

Re: GNOME Goal Proposal: Port to GMenu

2012-05-07 Thread Xan Lopez
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Andrew Cowie and...@operationaldynamics.com wrote: Is there a reference application doing this right? I ask this because Epiphany¹ has no menu, but does and a funky button over on the right that, upon investigation, turns out to be a menu has useful things like

Re: GNOME Goal Proposal: Port to GMenu

2012-05-07 Thread Evandro Giovanini
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Xan Lopez x...@gnome.org wrote: On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Andrew Cowie and...@operationaldynamics.com wrote: Is there a reference application doing this right? I ask this because Epiphany¹ has no menu, but does and a funky button over on the right that,

Re: GNOME Goal Proposal: Port to GMenu

2012-05-07 Thread Allan Day
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Evandro Giovanini efgiovan...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Xan Lopez x...@gnome.org wrote: On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Andrew Cowie and...@operationaldynamics.com wrote: Is there a reference application doing this right? I ask this

GNOME Goal Proposal: Port to GMenu

2012-04-26 Thread Allan Day
Hi all, Last release we introduced the ability for applications to define a GMenu (or 'application menu'). This means that applications now have a place to locate global application (as opposed to per window) menu items. Some applications have already started to use a GMenu, and while this is

Re: GNOME Goal Proposal: Port to GMenu

2012-04-26 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 13:55 +0100, Allan Day wrote: Hi all, Last release we introduced the ability for applications to define a GMenu (or 'application menu'). This means that applications now have a place to locate global application (as opposed to per window) menu items. Some applications

Re: GNOME Goal Proposal: Port to GMenu

2012-04-26 Thread Allan Day
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote: On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 13:55 +0100, Allan Day wrote: Hi all, Last release we introduced the ability for applications to define a GMenu (or 'application menu'). This means that applications now have a place to locate

Re: GNOME Goal Proposal: Port to GMenu

2012-04-26 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On 26 April 2012 09:35, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote: On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 13:55 +0100, Allan Day wrote: Hi all, Last release we introduced the ability for applications to define a GMenu (or 'application menu').

Re: GNOME Goal Proposal: Port to GMenu

2012-04-26 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Jeremy Bicha jbi...@ubuntu.com wrote: On 26 April 2012 09:35, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote: On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 13:55 +0100, Allan Day wrote: Hi all, Last release we introduced

Re: GNOME Goal Proposal: Port to GMenu

2012-04-26 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 10:04 -0400, Jeremy Bicha wrote: On 26 April 2012 09:35, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote: On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 13:55 +0100, Allan Day wrote: Hi all, Last release we introduced the ability

Re: GNOME Goal Proposal: Port to GMenu

2012-04-26 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On 26 April 2012 10:10, Jasper St. Pierre jstpie...@mecheye.net wrote: On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Jeremy Bicha jbi...@ubuntu.com wrote: On 26 April 2012 09:35, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote: On Thu,

Re: GNOME Goal Proposal: Port to GMenu

2012-04-26 Thread Florian Müllner
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Jeremy Bicha jbi...@ubuntu.com wrote: I don't know if Unity supports having both regular menus and a Gmenu at the same time. I don't know either, but I don't think it is relevant here - there is GMenu support for *both* app menu and window menu in

Re: GNOME Goal Proposal: Port to GMenu

2012-04-26 Thread Allan Day
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Jeremy Bicha jbi...@ubuntu.com wrote: ... I believe we were talking about keeping File/Edit/View while adding a GMenu. If so, the UI would be quite confusing if some things were taken out of the normal File/Edit/View menus. If all we're talking about is how

OT: Unity handling of Application menus (was: Re: GNOME Goal Proposal: Port to GMenu)

2012-04-26 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 10:23 -0400, Jeremy Bicha wrote: On 26 April 2012 10:10, Jasper St. Pierre jstpie...@mecheye.net wrote: And I thought that desrt and Colin worked very hard to have this work with Ubuntu. I remember Colin talking about how hard this was because of integration between

Re: GNOME Goal Proposal: Port to GMenu

2012-04-26 Thread Florian Müllner
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote: In some cases there will be a GMenu and a menu bar (with File/Edit/View...) for the same app, at least in the short term. There is some confusion about terminology here, so Ryan asked me to clarify :-) GMenu is a newly

Re: OT: Unity handling of Application menus (was: Re: GNOME Goal Proposal: Port to GMenu)

2012-04-26 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Ted Gould t...@gould.cx wrote: On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 10:23 -0400, Jeremy Bicha wrote: On 26 April 2012 10:10, Jasper St. Pierre jstpie...@mecheye.net wrote: And I thought that desrt and Colin worked very hard to have this work with Ubuntu. I remember Colin

Re: GNOME Goal Proposal: Port to GMenu

2012-04-26 Thread Bhaavan Merchant
GMenu is a very good idea. The menu system has remained stagnant since the early software design days, and has become archaic. There is ambiguity as to location of various options (read Preferences in Edit or Tools, Select in Edit or elsewhere), For a new user, this is an evil which can be done

Re: OT: Unity handling of Application menus (was: Re: GNOME Goal Proposal: Port to GMenu)

2012-04-26 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 11:54 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Ted Gould t...@gould.cx wrote: While there are few today, our goal here was to ensure that as new applications are developed it is expected that they'd use GMenuModel instead of traditional GTK