On 19/03/11 12:25, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
On 19/03/11 11:19, Olav Vitters wrote:
As a pre-warning, could you please ask the ftp-masters again to support
.xz?
They have included this item in their agenda for the meeting. I've told them
that GNOME plans to switch to .xz soon and that
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 05:12:22PM +0100, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
So I'd say .xz support will be in place in ~ 1 or 2 months. Definitely for
GNOME
3.2, but hopefully way sooner.
Great! Then I'll first everything from .tar.gz + .tar.bz2 to .tar.bz2 +
.tar.xz as transition. Then before
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 01:42:01PM +, Ghee Teo wrote:
On 21/03/2011 12:29, Olav Vitters wrote:
I'd like to
understand what the impact would be. So, whom would it affect (what kind
of groups: users/developers/OS team/something else)?
There are 2 aspect of these I can see at least:
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 11:10:14PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
OTOH I’d really appreciate to see digital signatures along with the
tarballs.
Please file a bug against sysadmin, Blue Sky component detailing exactly
the idea.
We don't have signatures, so I'd like (need) loads of detail:
1.
On 22/03/2011 13:05, Olav Vitters wrote:
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 01:42:01PM +, Ghee Teo wrote:
On 21/03/2011 12:29, Olav Vitters wrote:
I'd like to
understand what the impact would be. So, whom would it affect (what kind
of groups: users/developers/OS team/something else)?
There are 2
I hope this does not imply or infer that all the source tarball for
GNOME will be uploaded in .xz format only. Solaris is *not* supporting
.xz by default yet. This means, anyone who want to compile source code
modules will have difficulties.
Just want to clarify.
-Ghee
On 19/03/2011 11:19,
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 09:55:05AM +, Ghee Teo wrote:
I hope this does not imply or infer that all the source tarball for
GNOME will be uploaded in .xz format only. Solaris is *not*
supporting .xz by default yet. This means, anyone who want to
compile source code modules will have
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 01:29:56PM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 09:55:05AM +, Ghee Teo wrote:
I hope this does not imply or infer that all the source tarball for
GNOME will be uploaded in .xz format only. Solaris is *not*
supporting .xz by default yet. This means,
Hello Olav,
What is the reasoning behind this move? Just storage savings? It seems
to me that it will actually be easier to request our sponsors
(RedHat/Novell/Oracle...) for more storage than pushing everyone into
the pain of having to deal with such unfamiliar format. We are
releasing .gz and
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 09:21, Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote:
Hello Olav,
What is the reasoning behind this move? Just storage savings? It seems
to me that it will actually be easier to request our sponsors
(RedHat/Novell/Oracle...) for more storage than pushing everyone into
the pain
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 01:21:38PM +, Alberto Ruiz wrote:
What is the reasoning behind this move? Just storage savings? It seems
For xz:
1) Much faster download
2) Much smaller
3) Doesn't use a lot of memory when decompressing (9MB)
4) Uncompress speed seems similar to bz2 (as in: don't
Germán Póo-Caamaño wrote:
I am not trying to criticise the effort rather than trying to
understand why is this such a big win.
The explanation is in the following previous thread:
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2011-March/msg2.html
The problem is not storage, it
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 02:52:17PM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
But mostly:
Forgot my blue sky idea that I've almost completed:
I'm working on automatically giving maintainers access to upload things
to ftp.gnome.org. Then we'd be able to give way more people the ability
to upload tarballs
Sorry Olav,
I thought this is actually going to happen soon and the decision was
set in stone.
2011/3/21 Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl:
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 01:21:38PM +, Alberto Ruiz wrote:
to me that it will actually be easier to request our sponsors
(RedHat/Novell/Oracle...) for more
2011/3/21 Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org:
I also read with interest the xdelta stuff. The assumption seems to be
that many people downloading tarballs have the previous version already.
I would say that's a minority usecase... for my part, I tend to delete
tarballs after downloading
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 03:02:12PM +0100, Dave Neary wrote:
I also read with interest the xdelta stuff. The assumption seems to be
that many people downloading tarballs have the previous version already.
As the previous install-module generated those diff files I assumed
there was a usecase. So
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 02:10:58PM +, Alberto Ruiz wrote:
2011/3/21 Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl:
Could you expand on the pain?
Basically most distros won't ship it by default, at least not for now.
Solaris/RHEL/SLED/CentOS are probably the worst cases here. But also
custom
On 21/03/2011 12:29, Olav Vitters wrote:
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 09:55:05AM +, Ghee Teo wrote:
I hope this does not imply or infer that all the source tarball for
GNOME will be uploaded in .xz format only. Solaris is *not*
supporting .xz by default yet. This means, anyone who want to
On 21/03/11 15:29, Olav Vitters wrote:
ATM I really like to switch to the new script (ftpadmin) before 3.0 as
it correctly handles NEWS files and .0 releases..
\o/
That always annoyed me. Thanks!
Emilio
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On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 6:42 AM, Ghee Teo ghee@oracle.com wrote:
On 21/03/2011 12:29, Olav Vitters wrote:
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 09:55:05AM +, Ghee Teo wrote:
I hope this does not imply or infer that all the source tarball for
GNOME will be uploaded in .xz format only. Solaris is
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Ghee Teo ghee@oracle.com wrote:
On 21/03/2011 17:02, Sandy Armstrong wrote:
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 6:42 AM, Ghee Teoghee@oracle.com wrote:
On 21/03/2011 12:29, Olav Vitters wrote:
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 09:55:05AM +, Ghee Teo wrote:
I hope
On 21/03/2011 17:02, Sandy Armstrong wrote:
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 6:42 AM, Ghee Teoghee@oracle.com wrote:
On 21/03/2011 12:29, Olav Vitters wrote:
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 09:55:05AM +, Ghee Teo wrote:
I hope this does not imply or infer that all the source tarball for
GNOME will be
On 21/03/2011 17:27, Sandy Armstrong wrote:
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Ghee Teoghee@oracle.com wrote:
On 21/03/2011 17:02, Sandy Armstrong wrote:
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 6:42 AM, Ghee Teoghee@oracle.comwrote:
On 21/03/2011 12:29, Olav Vitters wrote:
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011
Le lundi 21 mars 2011 à 15:50 +0100, Olav Vitters a écrit :
I would be interested to see download stats for the xd3 files once they
go live! xdelta3 is very cool, even if few people use it.
Due to the feedback from the last discussion, I didn't develop it. I can
do so, should be
On 21 March 2011 15:10, Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org wrote:
Le lundi 21 mars 2011 à 15:50 +0100, Olav Vitters a écrit :
I would be interested to see download stats for the xd3 files once they
go live! xdelta3 is very cool, even if few people use it.
Due to the feedback from the last
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 08:45:31AM -0700, Baybal Ni wrote:
What is xz?
It is a different way to compress files.
See http://tukaani.org/xz/
You have various method to compress a file. Commonly used ones are .gz
and .bz2. Then there was .lzma shortly, but it has been superseded by
.xz.
The
Note: breaking thread on purpose.
On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 04:31:23PM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 03:15:34PM +, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
From a Debian POV, we can't upload .xz upstream tarballs yet (dpkg supports
it,
but the ftp-masters don't allow it),
On 19/03/11 11:19, Olav Vitters wrote:
Note: breaking thread on purpose.
On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 04:31:23PM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 03:15:34PM +, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
From a Debian POV, we can't upload .xz upstream tarballs yet (dpkg supports
it,
2011/3/19 Emilio Pozuelo Monfort po...@debian.org:
On 19/03/11 11:19, Olav Vitters wrote:
Note: breaking thread on purpose.
On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 04:31:23PM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 03:15:34PM +, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
From a Debian POV, we can't upload
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 03:55:18PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote:
2011/3/19 Emilio Pozuelo Monfort po...@debian.org:
On 19/03/11 11:19, Olav Vitters wrote:
As a pre-warning, could you please ask the ftp-masters again to support
.xz?
They have included this item in their agenda for the
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