Re: Module proposal: dconf

2009-10-15 Thread Ghee Teo

Rodrigo Moya wrote:

On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 23:06 +0200, Luca Ferretti wrote:
  

2009/10/13 Rodrigo Moya rodr...@gnome-db.org:


Ryan is a bit sad to not get feedback on his proposal, so a bit more
seriously: I think what we probably need is a migration plan. Should we
move all the code from gconf to dconf in one cycle (if possible)? Should
apps implement migration for the data in gconf? etc.



I think it makes sense to do the migration for all the apps at once.
  

Are we speking about:
  a) all GNOME Desktop applications
  b) all applications hosted on git.gnome.org
  c) all GNOME/GTK+ apps using GConf :)

??

Serius: what's the plan for thirdy part applications?



if dconf listens to changes in gconf, 3rd party apps would just need to
link to glib/GSettings instead of libgconf, and their migration would be
done automatically, right?
  
If dconf listens to changes in gconf, does not 3rd party apps would just 
work?
This is a question of run-time interoperability, is dconf inter operate 
with gconf clients?
Please clarify this. I can see lots of reasons why 3rd party doesn't 
want to re-link to glib/GSettings :)


-Ghee


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Re: Module proposal: dconf

2009-10-15 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 11:24 +0100, Ghee Teo wrote:
 Rodrigo Moya wrote:
  On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 23:06 +0200, Luca Ferretti wrote:

  2009/10/13 Rodrigo Moya rodr...@gnome-db.org:
  
  Ryan is a bit sad to not get feedback on his proposal, so a bit more
  seriously: I think what we probably need is a migration plan. Should we
  move all the code from gconf to dconf in one cycle (if possible)? Should
  apps implement migration for the data in gconf? etc.
 
  
  I think it makes sense to do the migration for all the apps at once.

  Are we speking about:
a) all GNOME Desktop applications
b) all applications hosted on git.gnome.org
c) all GNOME/GTK+ apps using GConf :)
 
  ??
 
  Serius: what's the plan for thirdy part applications?
  
 
  if dconf listens to changes in gconf, 3rd party apps would just need to
  link to glib/GSettings instead of libgconf, and their migration would be
  done automatically, right?

 If dconf listens to changes in gconf, does not 3rd party apps would just 
 work?
 This is a question of run-time interoperability, is dconf inter operate 
 with gconf clients?
 Please clarify this. I can see lots of reasons why 3rd party doesn't 
 want to re-link to glib/GSettings :)
 
this is for doing the migration, once apps are ported to GSettings API
(and hence not linking against libgconf), their settings should be in
the dconf database automatically, because dconf migrated them

That's how I would see it

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Re: Module proposal: dconf

2009-10-15 Thread Michael Meeks

On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 10:54 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote:
 No doubt.  But ask that same question of sysadmins, and
 you'll probably get a different answer.

So - at this point, I'd like to advertise FUSE gratuitously[1]; what
with the ease of writing a FUSE filing-system, and the fact that we have
a GVFS fuse mount already; it should be near-trivial to write a 'vi
compatible' FUSE plugin there, that would show the configuration data as
.ini style or fugly verbose gconf XML style or whatever ;-)

At least, that's ok for the user XML, perhaps for the system, it's
necessary to type some unbelievably verbose mount command-line to get
the same effect - but hey; sysadmins are good at that right ? :-)

That way we can have a sane data format, and the appearance of a text
storage (and backup / restore / whatever) as well. Of course this should
also take a clueful hacker all of - oh an hour or two to write ;-)

HTH,

Michael.

[1] - though, I'm not at the lets use it for all database queries type
wide-eyed end of the spectrum ;-)
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Re: External dependency proposal: Vala

2009-10-15 Thread Andre Klapper
According to our rules only maintainers can propose their modules, but I
assume that Jürg is more than okay with desrt's proposal as he did not
answer with a No way! to this thread. ;-)

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Re: External dependency proposal: Vala

2009-10-15 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
Andre Klapper wrote:
 According to our rules only maintainers can propose their modules

Even for external dependencies?

Emilio




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Re: External dependency proposal: Vala

2009-10-15 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Freitag, den 16.10.2009, 02:25 +0200 schrieb Emilio Pozuelo Monfort:
 Andre Klapper wrote:
  According to our rules only maintainers can propose their modules
 
 Even for external dependencies?

Ah. Very good point.
I should not try to catch up with 500 emails late at night.

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