Re: GTK_Icon becom symbolic: a really good idea?

2011-02-04 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Gendre Sebastien ko...@romandie.com wrote: Hello every body. I read the guideline of symbolic icons [1] and I'm not ok with all points. Using symbolic icons for system status (on top right in Gnome Shell) or volume indication and play options in full screen

Re: no way to change theme or fonts in System Settings?

2011-03-17 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
The story I've heard is that we haven't supported themes because we make no guarantees about CSS class stability: CSS support was a nifty thing that was added so that we could put up a couple actors and mold them like clay into our mockups very quickly and easily. With the gnome 3 release, I doubt

Re: empathy integration with the desktop

2011-03-30 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
This is just a technical limitation right now... Right now, the shell is an Observer... That means we can watch other channels and messages that other clients set up, like Empathy. This is a lot easier to implement. cassidy is working on making the shell an Approver and Handler, which means that

Re: gnome 3

2011-04-14 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Antoine Pézier anto...@pezier.com wrote: Hello, I've been a linux user for personal use since 99, and then for my professional work. I used gnome since it's begginning and always prefered gnome's user experience over KDE: simplest, it just did what I needed

Re: gnome 3

2011-04-14 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 4:53 AM, Alberto Mardegan ma...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: I think this discussion is more pertinent in the usability ML; I'm adding that in CC and to the Reply-to. On 04/14/2011 11:24 AM, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: Today, I'm writing to you for the first time

Re: 3.2: gjs/seed

2011-04-21 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
Right now in gjs, you do this: imports.gi.versions.Gtk = '3.0'; I assume there's nothing stopping Python from using the same technique, and I know they've talked about it before. On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org wrote: Le mercredi 20 avril 2011 à 19:12 -0400,

Re: Help Wanted Installing jhbuild on LFS 6.8

2011-05-06 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
You need write access to whatever you assign to 'prefix'. On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 7:02 PM, bsquared bwcod...@gmail.com wrote: I have installed jhbuild in a basic LFS environment using standard build tools: configure --prefix=/usr ; make make install. files[1] are installed to /usr. But

Re: Help Wanted Installing jhbuild on LFS 6.8

2011-05-07 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
jhbuild is not a general purpose build system for building gnome. It's designed to sandbox a gnome setup and keep anything from interacting with it... like a chroot, but more usable. The prefix variable defines where things like bin, lib and etc go. Because of the sandbox aspect, setting your

Re: Help Wanted Installing jhbuild on LFS 6.8

2011-05-07 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
, bsquared bwcod...@gmail.com wrote: Jasper St. Pierre wrote: jhbuild is not a general purpose build system for building gnome. It's designed to sandbox a gnome setup and keep anything from interacting with it... like a chroot, but more usable. The prefix variable defines where things like

Re: Gnome Feature Request

2011-05-08 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
So... you're suggesting D-Bus? 2011/5/8 Erick Pérez erick@gmail.com Hi: I hope the term for proposing stuff to Gnome 3.2 isn't over yet, It took me a while to made my mind about this. So here it goes: What I think Gnome needs now: A centralized, gnome controlled place for

Re: Gnome Feature Request

2011-05-08 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
2011/5/8 Erick Pérez erick@gmail.com First, the word 'service' here give the wrong impressions that the Dictionary have to be running, and that's not what I meant, not even a dictionary module. What registers the association if not running code? On 08/05/2011, Jasper St. Pierre

SweetTooth's Slow Progress

2011-07-23 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
Hey guys, it's Jasper. The last time I talked about SweetTooth[0] it was about the live enabling/disabling extensions proposal. I've been meaning to follow-up on this ML thread, but I was sidetracked: a bit annoyed with resizing on my new laptop, I started working on invisible borders in mutter,

SweetTooth and Live Extension Enabling/Disabling

2011-08-24 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
Hey guys, it's Jasper. Again, the last time I talked about SweetTooth, it was a month ago. I'm here to say that enabling/disabling of extensions has landed! Extension authors, you have to update to the new APIs if you want your extensions to be compatible with 3.2. For more information, the

Re: SweetTooth and Live Extension Enabling/Disabling

2011-08-25 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 4:53 AM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 02:00:32PM -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: For 3.2, besides item #5, I'm going to be working on all the boring stuff that needs to be done in a webapp (user registration, etc.), a simple page that lets

Re: SweetTooth and Live Extension Enabling/Disabling

2011-08-25 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
http://github.com/magcius/sweettooth is intended to be deployed in one place: extensions.gnome.org. It's not intended to be packaged. On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Malcolm malcolm_le...@bellsouth.net wrote: On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 05:03:18 -0400 Jasper St. Pierre jstpie...@mecheye.net wrote

Re: SweetTooth and Live Extension Enabling/Disabling

2011-08-25 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Malcolm malcolm_le...@bellsouth.net wrote: On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 11:31:32 -0400 Jasper St. Pierre jstpie...@mecheye.net wrote: http://github.com/magcius/sweettooth is intended to be deployed in one place: extensions.gnome.org. It's not intended to be packaged

Re: Notes on extensions.gnome.org security

2011-08-31 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
(Just a few comments on what's currently implemented) Obviously, this website and its goals have some parallels with the Mozila Addons site. I have been talking to their engineers and we both decided that doing our own thing would be best for both of us. I have been talking to them about how AMO

Re: Confused about the release

2011-08-31 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Federico Mena Quintero feder...@gnome.org wrote: On Tue, 2011-08-30 at 15:24 -0400, Shaun McCance wrote: I noticed that we have Contacts, Documents, and Sushi in the apps moduleset. gnome-documents worries me because of its dependency on Tracker. From my

Re: Launching an application requires too many mouse clicks in Gnome 3

2011-09-04 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
You can pin apps to the dash by dragging them there, or right-click on its icon in the dash. On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 1:43 AM, Xavier Cho fender_ru...@yahoo.co.kr wrote: I've been using Gnome 3 for some months, and overall I think it's definitely a step in the right direction. However, as a long

Re: Launching an application requires too many mouse clicks in Gnome 3

2011-09-04 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
), 02:10 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre: You can pin apps to the dash by dragging them there, or right-click on its icon in the dash. On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 1:43 AM, Xavier Cho fender_ru...@yahoo.co.kr wrote: I've been using Gnome 3 for some months, and overall I think it's definitely a step

Re: Launching an application requires too many mouse clicks in Gnome 3

2011-09-04 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
Have you seen Killing Mode Switch[0]? It wasn't implemented in 3.2 because of time constraints, but it's planned. http://jimmac.musichall.cz/log/?p=1181 On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Xavier Cho fender_ru...@yahoo.co.kr wrote: Ok, I can admit the overview mode is somewhat more user friendly

Re: GNOME 3 panel applets

2011-09-12 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
GNOME3 does not use gnome-panel. You change change GNOME3's top panel with GNOME Shell Extension. On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Narek Babadjanyan baba...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, hackers! I have recently installed a package gnome-panel-devel and I would like to know if it supports GNOME 3's

Re: GtkTable is deprecated

2011-09-29 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
If GtkTable and GtkGrid were replaceable by a sed expression, I don't think we would have bothered breaking API. On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Johannes Schmid j...@jsschmid.de wrote: Hi! deprecated != gone. There is no super-urgent need to rid the world of GtkTables - unless you want

Re: Splitting gnome-utils for 3.4

2011-09-29 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org wrote: Le mercredi 28 septembre 2011, à 14:35 -0400, Cosimo Cecchi a écrit : Also, gnome-utils has the same unrelated tags issue of gdk-pixbuf, so they would need to be manually selected anyway (unless we also want to keep things

Re: Features !

2011-10-05 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Matthias Clasen matthias.cla...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, so according to the draft schedule that Andre posted a while ago, we are in the middle of the 'feature proposal' period right now. I haven't seen much feature discussion here at all yet, and so far, the

Re: Features !

2011-10-06 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:34 AM, Joaquim Rocha jro...@igalia.com wrote: On Thu, 2011-10-06 at 08:37 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote: [...] I love the shell generally though, this is really just where I think we could improve things. Hi, I second Martyn's proposals and I'd like to name a few

Re: Features !

2011-10-06 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Rodrigo Moya rodr...@gnome-db.org wrote: On jue, 2011-10-06 at 10:31 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote: - Integration with thunderbird in the calendar (there is a red hat bug about this somewhere I saw recently) - Why show the wacom graphics tablet configuration

Re: Features !

2011-10-06 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Rodrigo Moya rodr...@gnome-db.org wrote: yes, that makes sense indeed. But apart from that, it should really support all kind of tablets, not only Wacom ones :) Of course. That's sort of orthogonal though. As far as I know, the realistic problem is that we

Re: GNOME user survey 2011 (v6)

2011-10-18 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
It's useless to me because there's nothing actionable there. The survey results don't give us anything to do except die in a fire. --   Jasper ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org

Re: 3.4 Features, final round

2011-11-06 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Seif Lotfy s...@lotfy.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 12:10 AM, Florian Müllner fmuell...@gnome.org wrote: On dom, 2011-11-06 at 22:52 +0100, Seif Lotfy wrote: What you see for me doesnt necessarily mean that the program populates the jumplist alone. It

Re: maintaining both gtk2 and 3 compatibility

2011-11-09 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Curtis C. Hovey sinzui...@verizon.net wrote: Hi Richard. On 11/09/2011 11:54 AM, Richard Henwood wrote: Is it feasible to keep backward compatibility with gtk2 (gnome2) or should I rip out all the wnck2 packages (below) and maintain two separate code trees?

extensions.gnome.org - Public Alpha Now Available

2011-12-01 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
product. Problems with individual extensions should be reported using the Help! It didn't work! link on the extension's page. Thanks to everybody that made this happen! --   Jasper St. Pierre ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list

Re: extensions.gnome.org - Public Alpha Now Available

2011-12-01 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote: Em Thu, 2011-12-01 às 16:16 -0500, Jasper St. Pierre escreveu: We're happy to announce that extensions.gnome.org is now in public alpha testing at:  https://extensions.gnome.org snip Known Bugs and Problems

Re: extensions.gnome.org - Public Alpha Now Available

2011-12-01 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
with the GNOME wiki accounts, or do we need to maintain a different user/password combination? Thanks. Fred On 12/02/2011 05:16 AM, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: We're happy to announce that extensions.gnome.org is now in public alpha testing at:  https://extensions.gnome.org If you have GNOME

Re: extensions.gnome.org - Public Alpha Now Available

2011-12-02 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
You need to create a zip file. On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Gabriel Rossetti gabriel.rosse...@trafigura.com wrote: -Original Message- From: gnome-shell-list-boun...@gnome.org [mailto:gnome-shell-list-boun...@gnome.org] On Behalf Of Jasper St. Pierre Sent: 01 December 2011 22:17

Re: File Transfers in Shell Panel

2012-01-22 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
There was a project called TaskView that never got finished. There's now a new app in the works called Transfers [0]. How it integrates into the Shell I don't know. [0] https://live.gnome.org/Design/Apps/Transfers On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Jason Simanek jsima...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I

Re: API documentation from introspection data

2012-02-19 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote: Django has its own comments app, that problem is already solved. And it's terrible. Speaking as someone who wrote the rating/comment system using the Django comments app, it's terrible. Don't think of adding any feature

Re: API documentation from introspection data

2012-02-19 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote: I think that a tool to convert the doc string into something C/Python/Vala/GJS friendly (with links to each node) would be nice. If it had some sort of integration with the AST it would be nice so that we could somehow

Re: Last GNOME 3.4 Blocker Report

2012-03-19 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 4:51 AM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote: === GNOME-SESSION === fail whale extension list looks bad https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=671693 Needs more information and testing. Nope. [PATCH] Need signal matching Setenv

Re: Cairo / Highlighting

2012-04-02 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
You can't apply a blur using only cairo. If you want to change the background, paint it first, and then paint the icon. If you want to highlight it, use CAIRO_OPERATOR_OVERLAY and paint a white rectangle with a low alpha. On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Lanoxx lan...@gmx.net wrote: Hi, given

Re: How do you hack on the bleeding edge of Gnome?

2012-04-18 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Federico Mena Quintero feder...@gnome.org wrote: I don't want to blame jhbuild; this is a larger problem with how we have structured the development of Gnome.  I'm happy that (e.g.) Colin Walters is working on ostree (

Re: Module Proposal: Zeitgeist

2012-04-21 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
I've talked to several of my coworkers, and they just think Zeitgeist is the right technology for anything they're trying to do. A number of people thought the time-based approach wasn't neat enough. They brought up the recent flames over the Recently Used selection by default in the

Re: Module Proposal: Zeitgeist

2012-04-21 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Shaun McCance sha...@gnome.org wrote: On Sat, 2012-04-21 at 12:59 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: We have a design and a plan for finding and reminding, and Zeitgeist doesn't seem like the right technology to implement that plan. Who's we? We, the GNOME

3.6 Feature Proposal: Extension Hook Support and Updates

2012-04-24 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
Hey, I'm sort of new to this, so maybe this isn't the best feature proposal ever. Sorry. I'm quite sure you all know what GNOME Shell Extensions are, and how they're a great boon for this platform. If you haven't seen the GNOME Shell Extensions repository and the wide variety of extensions

Re: 3.6 Feature Proposal: Extension Hook Support and Updates

2012-04-24 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Federico Mena Quintero feder...@gnome.org wrote: On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 03:54 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: (In a way, I like thinking of some extensions as the correct answer to, but we don't want two code paths and a preference.  It helps keep everyone

Re: GNOME Goal Proposal: Port to GMenu

2012-04-26 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Jeremy Bicha jbi...@ubuntu.com wrote: On 26 April 2012 09:35, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote: On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 13:55 +0100, Allan Day wrote: Hi all, Last release we introduced

Re: OT: Unity handling of Application menus (was: Re: GNOME Goal Proposal: Port to GMenu)

2012-04-26 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Ted Gould t...@gould.cx wrote: On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 10:23 -0400, Jeremy Bicha wrote: On 26 April 2012 10:10, Jasper St. Pierre jstpie...@mecheye.net wrote: And I thought that desrt and Colin worked very hard to have this work with Ubuntu. I remember Colin

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-04-26 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Tomas Frydrych tf+lists.gn...@r-finger.com wrote: Hi, On 25/04/12 23:38, Marina Zhurakhinskaya wrote: Technically, the code for fading out the screen and displaying the lock screen when the user becomes active again will be added to GNOME Shell, and the

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-04-26 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:45 AM, Stef Walter st...@gnome.org wrote: On 04/27/2012 01:00 AM, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Tomas Frydrych tf+lists.gn...@r-finger.com wrote: Hi, On 25/04/12 23:38, Marina Zhurakhinskaya wrote: Technically, the code for fading out

Re: 3.6 Feature: Lock Screen

2012-04-27 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 4:35 AM, Philip Withnall phi...@tecnocode.co.uk wrote: On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 10:10 +0200, Giovanni Campagna wrote: Il 27 aprile 2012 09:36, Tomas Frydrych tf+lists.gn...@r-finger.com ha scritto: On 27/04/12 05:45, Stef Walter wrote: On 04/27/2012 01:00 AM, Jasper St

Re: Testing ostree

2012-04-29 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Giovanni Campagna scampa.giova...@gmail.com wrote: Hello fellow developers, I've recently tried ostree, the new project to build parallel operating systems in subfolders. I must say I like the idea, but I found a few problems with the current implementation,

Re: Rotting patches [was: Re: Reviewed-By: and pastebins]

2012-05-03 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote: On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 12:00 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: One of my goals for 2012 is to increase the number of patches I'm reviewing myself, and more generally, even further increase the percentage of patches that go into GNOME

Re: 3.6 Feature: IBus/XKB integration

2012-05-12 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
We only have the development resources to ship one input method. It's going to need special code to integrate with Clutter and the St toolkit. If IBus is bad right now, we need to fix it. On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Marguerite Su i...@marguerite.su wrote: On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 10:51 PM,

Re: 3.6 Feature: IBus/XKB integration

2012-05-12 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
Input Methods need to display custom widgets in the overview. That means they need access to St, which is (for now) a private toolkit to the Shell. DBus would not work, unless we want to do something really dumb[0]. The only thing that I could think of would either be a special kind of GNOME Shell

Re: 3.6 Feature: IBus/XKB integration

2012-05-12 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Weng Xuetian wen...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 12:10 AM, Jasper St. Pierre jstpie...@mecheye.net wrote: Input Methods need to display custom widgets in the overview. That means they need access to St, which is (for now) a private toolkit

Re: 3.6 Feature: IBus/XKB integration

2012-05-13 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 3:43 AM, Tomas Frydrych tf+lists.gn...@r-finger.com wrote: Hi everyone, Rather a long discussion over IBus, but it seems to more or less boil down to two voices and this: Gnome developers: we want tighter IM integration and simpler UI in the name of better UX, and

Re: Some points about IM integration

2012-05-14 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Owen Taylor otay...@redhat.com wrote: But if we have so many options that the defaults don't get well tested, or if options conflict and produce bugs, then we're not shipping a good ';';''' ' I'm hoping this is a clever joke involving buggy input methods

Re: Some points about IM integration

2012-05-15 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
Is there any reason that picking one input method framework is bad, if we do it right? If the experience sucks and users have to switch to another input method framework, yes, we've done it wrong, as Owen says in the original email. But if it works pretty much out of the box for all cases, what's

Re: Some points about IM integration

2012-05-15 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Ma Xiaojun damage3...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, all. I've started the documentation process of CJK Input. https://live.gnome.org/InputCJK Thanks, this looks like a good start! It just contains trivial information currently. But I will add content from time to

Re: Python version and jhbuild

2012-06-24 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 1:54 AM, Martin Pitt martin.p...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hello Joanmarie, Joanmarie Diggs [2012-06-22 12:30 -0400]: This change, unfortunately, makes jhbuild unhappy when building Orca (and later Accerciser) in an environment which lacks Python 3 versions of the build

Re: Python version and jhbuild

2012-06-25 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Emmanuele Bassi eba...@gmail.com wrote: hi Joanie; On 25 June 2012 14:38, Joanmarie Diggs jdi...@igalia.com wrote: 4. I will propose a GNOME Goal for 3.8 regarding everyone migrating to   Python 3. this means dropping the current pygtk bindings from the

Re: taking features away (compact view removed from Nautilus)

2012-06-30 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
It seems like the broken labels beside icons behavior should be treated as a bug in GtkIconView that should just be fixed. On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Adam Dingle a...@yorba.org wrote: I realized recently to my surprise and dismay that the compact view has been removed from Nautilus:

Re: Be respectful and considerate. A complaint.

2012-07-02 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Jason Simanek jsima...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Andreas Nilsson li...@andreasn.se wrote: And here is the same feature, but at the window manager level (and for all the other apps too): http://andreasn.myownb3.com/temp/nau-side-by-side.png

Re: Be respectful and considerate. A complaint.

2012-07-02 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Luca Ferretti lferr...@gnome.org wrote: 2012/7/2 Andreas Nilsson li...@andreasn.se And here is the same feature, but at the window manager level (and for all the other apps too): http://andreasn.myownb3.com/temp/nau-side-by-side.png Unfortunately this is

Re: [PROPOSAL] GNOME Goal for 3.8: No more Python 2

2012-07-03 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 11:17 AM, David Malcolm dmalc...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 10:13 -0400, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: On 07/03/2012 05:04 AM, Bastien Nocera wrote: On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 09:23 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 09:44:52AM -0400, Joanmarie Diggs

Re: Again: please clarify the decision on IBus integration

2012-07-08 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
As far as I know, all the issues involving IBus were resolved during / after the last mailing list thread. Do you have any more issues with IBus? On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Aron Xu aro...@gnome.org wrote: (Especially to those who have involved in the implementation of this so-called

Re: Again: please clarify the decision on IBus integration

2012-07-09 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 2:12 AM, Aron Xu aro...@gnome.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Jasper St. Pierre jstpie...@mecheye.net wrote: As far as I know, all the issues involving IBus were resolved during / after the last mailing list thread. Do you have any more issues with IBus

Re: popup menu

2012-07-28 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Jarrett Chisholm jchish...@icebreakersent.com wrote: hi everyone, I'm looking to add a popup-menu to the frippery Bottom Panel extension. I want to have right-click open up a popup-menu (similar to how it would with menu panel items that are along the top of

Re: Mirroring GNOME on github

2012-08-07 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 12:09 PM, John Stowers john.stowers.li...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I spoke about this with a few people at GUADEC, but I would like to continue the discussion here. Can we please mirror the GNOME repositories on github.org (https://github.com/GNOME)? Advantages * Many

Re: Mirroring GNOME on github

2012-08-07 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 1:30 PM, John Stowers john.stowers.li...@gmail.com wrote: Disadvantages * Maintainers might see this is mandating them change their workflow. I emphasize that github should be only a mirror, interaction and merging should occur first on git.gnome.org This is a killer.

Re: Mirroring GNOME on github

2012-08-07 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 1:51 PM, John Stowers john.stow...@gmail.com wrote: Would such a hypothetical contributor have bothered giving me the laborious opportunity to reject his contribution if I had asked him to go through bz first anyway? If a contributor already has a github account, and a

Re: Mirroring GNOME on github

2012-08-07 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 2:29 PM, John Stowers john.stowers.li...@gmail.com wrote: Maintainers are free to reject contributions if they are improperly made for the project. Having a github mirror does not take away their ability to do that (c.f. the Kernel model and forks on github). Similarly,

Re: Mirroring GNOME on github

2012-08-07 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Dodji Seketeli do...@seketeli.org wrote: Patryk Zawadzki pat...@pld-linux.org a écrit: The question is whether the freedom is more important than productivity of course. I'd rather keep the Freedom, and encourage people to work on improving the productivity

Re: Print Dialog / Improving Print to file option

2012-08-15 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
It's a GTK+ thing. http://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/tree/modules/printbackends/file/gtkprintbackendfile.c On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Lanoxx lan...@gmx.net wrote: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/94/printtofile.png/ On 15/08/12 16:58, Olav Vitters wrote: On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at

Re: Using jhbuild

2012-08-17 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 4:24 AM, Lanoxx lan...@gmx.net wrote: So today I thought I would give jhbuild another try, so I can build gtk+ 3.5. My question is, after I cloned jhbuild, should I run autogen.sh with the --prefix=/usr option or is that not neccessary? You want to build jhbuild into

Re: Mirroring GNOME on github

2012-08-20 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Nicolas Silva nical.si...@gmail.com wrote: I think the biggest benefit of using github is not the interface itself, but rather the potential number of new contributors. Since the D programming language moved to github, it has received vastly more

Re: Mirroring GNOME on github

2012-08-20 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Nicolas Silva nical.si...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Jasper St. Pierre Correct. But I'm unsure how a mirror is going to attract contributors. Well, github is part of a lot of people's workflow. It is nice to use, it makes it easy to fork

Re: GSettings are not saved

2012-08-26 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Lanoxx lan...@gmx.net wrote: I have a very weired issue with GSettings in my application: I am using the following code: g_settings_set_boolean (mainapp-settings, key, is_active); if(g_settings_get_has_unapplied (mainapp-settings)) {

Re: Recommended office suite?

2012-09-03 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 2:08 AM, Mattias Eriksson snag...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I noticed that the Gnome Ubuntu flavor will not ship libreoffice, but instead only ship Abiword and Gnumeric. I was surprised by this, since I think libreoffice is the best office suite for linux and it has quite

Re: jhbuild update required

2012-09-05 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Jeremy Bicha jbi...@ubuntu.com wrote: On 5 September 2012 14:56, Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org wrote: Hi, TL;DR: Run git pull -r make install in your jhbuild checkouts. The latest systemmodules work has landed in jhbuild; in the default configuration

Re: Blocker bug status

2012-09-15 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Matthias Clasen matthias.cla...@gmail.com wrote: Here is another blocker bug review, on the eve of the hard code freeze. There are currently 27 bugs that are marked as 3.6 blockers. There is a bunch of libsecret migration [1] bugs. These are not _really_

Re: XML for GJS

2012-10-06 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Nikita Churaev lamefun@gmail.com wrote: Without proper XML support, a programming platform becomes outright useless for PEOPLE, since XML is now the integral part of Web 3.0 and everything else. It's a grave problem for GJS, since now it has no XML support

Re: Question About File Roller

2012-10-16 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Ma Xiaojun damage3...@gmail.com wrote: It has no mailing list. It has a 2009 homepage: http://fileroller.sourceforge.net/ It has some random 2008 live.gnome.org page: https://live.gnome.org/RoadMap/FileRoller

Re: Question About File Roller

2012-10-16 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Ma Xiaojun damage3...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Jasper St. Pierre jstpie...@mecheye.net As the git module shows, it's under active development: http://git.gnome.org/browse/file-roller/ I'm not sure what sort of thing you're looking

Re: Question About File Roller

2012-10-16 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Ma Xiaojun damage3...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote: You could also just use this mailing-list in the meanwhile, instead of keeping us guessing about what possible problem file-roller could have.

Re: Question About File Roller

2012-10-16 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Ma Xiaojun damage3...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Debarshi Ray rishi...@lostca.se wrote: #gnome-hackers on GIMPNet Do you accept questions like I cannot open RAR on Fedora. I do know the answer. But that's the kind of user support

Re: Requiring systemd for the gnome-settings-daemon power plugin

2012-10-19 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Matthias Clasen matthias.cla...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org wrote: The other thing we can do (and really should do) is share more code relating to systemd/CK and in general system abstractions. It's

Re: Requiring systemd for the gnome-settings-daemon power plugin

2012-10-20 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
(Somehow you manage to reply with Florian Max@gmail, Florian Mullner@gmail, and Florian Muller@gnome. I won't question it) On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Florian Müllner fmuell...@gnome.org wrote: On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Jasper St. Pierre jstpie...@mecheye.net wrote: This is what I

Re: 3.8 feature: Drop or Fix Fallback Mode

2012-10-22 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, The discussion about features is supposed to heat up next week, but I'll actually be offline. So I'd like to start discussion on the fallback mode today. First of all, go read the wiki page:

Re: IM notifications API

2012-10-30 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 7:47 AM, Dulek michal.du...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! I wanted to write an extension for Kadu IM (widely used in Poland), which will implement Gnome 3 IM notifications. I'm just stuck without any documentation. Where can I find it? Already tried libnotify reference

Re: GCalctool renamed to GNOME Calculator

2012-11-14 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
We should keep the desktop files so that they have the same name, hopefully. It's always been an internal UUID of sorts (we still have epiphany, file-roller, baobab, etc.) On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Jeremy Bicha jbi...@ubuntu.com wrote: On 13 November 2012 21:49, Robert Ancell

Re: Dropping fallback mode in 3.8

2012-11-22 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
The hardware accelerated graphics API that the rest of the world has depended upon is OpenGL, minus Direct3D for obvious reasons. It's unfortunate, but if OpenGL isn't supported on these devices, a hardware accelerated desktop isn't going to be possible. I don't think it's worth it to write

Re: Dropping fallback mode in 3.8

2012-11-22 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 5:59 AM, Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote: On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 05:47:30 -0500 Jasper St. Pierre jstpie...@mecheye.net wrote: The hardware accelerated graphics API that the rest of the world has depended upon is OpenGL, minus Direct3D for obvious reasons. It's

Re: Fallback mode is going away - what now ?

2012-11-23 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
The idea of using the web page as management was an idea that Owen had, and in some ways it was a logical progression of the addons.mozilla.org experience: you get extensions from the web site, so why not enable/disable/configure/uninstall them from there too? It's a good idea, but a myriad of

Re: En-dash versus em-dash

2012-12-10 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
Nope. Try it yourself. Put a UTF-8 literal in an imported source file, and then try to use Unicode literals for the character. It interprets the UTF-8 wrong. I'm quite sure this is a bug in our importer script, treating everything as UTF-16. On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Colin Walters

Re: GNOME Bugmail: Gmail threading finally working!

2012-12-12 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
Various people have documented why the header is broken, and thus why gmail doesn't care about or use it. On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Dodji Seketeli do...@seketeli.org wrote: Whoah! The proper way to handle this would be to have Gmail actually support the 'References' header. --

Re: GNOME Bugmail: Gmail threading finally working!

2012-12-12 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
, or how they fail: https://github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/wiki/What-is-threading On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote: Examples / references welcome. On Wed, 2012-12-12 at 15:27 -0500, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: Various people have documented why

Re: GNOME Bugmail: Gmail threading finally working!

2012-12-12 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
No, it shouldn't. I like the Conversation View. Anyway, kittens won't die if I get two bugs per email. Let's just drop this for now. On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Dodji Seketeli do...@seketeli.org wrote: Jasper St. Pierre jstpie...@mecheye.net a écrit: So, one, GMail's Conversation View

Re: build.gnome.org

2012-12-30 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
Can we just redirect build.gnome.org to ostree.gnome.org ? Having it build apps or something like that on top of its root tree as a separate build process would be nice. On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Cosimo Cecchi cosi...@gnome.org wrote: Maintaining the Debian jhbuild server running was

Re: Is gnome fully compliant with freedesktop sepc? Any know issues?

2013-01-17 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
If a GNOME module implements published FreeDesktop specifications, such as the desktop entry specification, or the menu specification, it should always be specificiation-compliant. Of course, bugs in implementations are always possible, and if you have issues with any of our implementations,

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