Re: Three Point Zero - Idea Mockups

2005-05-26 Thread Rodrigo Moya
we stopped? because we released April GNOME a year later, and users were confused. -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

libnotify in gnome-applets

2005-07-04 Thread Rodrigo Moya
, would this be a good idea? * I'm going to add support for hints in the notifications, so that the notification itself shows up next to the applet sending it. For screenshots - http://blogs.gnome.org/view/rodrigo/2005/07/04/0 So, can this be committed? -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? cpufreq

Re: libnotify in gnome-applets

2005-07-04 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Mon, 2005-07-04 at 15:54 +0200, Luca Ferretti wrote: Il giorno lun, 04/07/2005 alle 13.48 +0200, Rodrigo Moya ha scritto: Hi Since there is a huge list of people in the gnome-applets' MAINTAINERS file, sending the patch here. This adds libnotify to some applets to display nice

Re: Gnome Session Services Framework

2005-07-08 Thread Rodrigo Moya
-session conditionally compiled code (once I finish it), make that the default so that we force people to test it, and if big errors are found, come back to the old gnome-session thing by default. -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list

Re: Gnome Session Services Framework

2005-07-11 Thread Rodrigo Moya
), then, for other non-visual services, see if the process is indeed running. -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Gnome Session Services Framework

2005-07-11 Thread Rodrigo Moya
, all GNOME services can be patched to be started that way. -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Gnome Session Services Framework

2005-07-11 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Mon, 2005-07-11 at 18:06 -0400, John (J5) Palmieri wrote: On Mon, 2005-07-11 at 23:50 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote: On Mon, 2005-07-11 at 14:33 -0400, John (J5) Palmieri wrote: On Mon, 2005-07-11 at 14:14 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: Hey, guys- if I wanted to test this: (1) what would I

Re: Gnome Session Services Framework

2005-07-13 Thread Rodrigo Moya
of the services -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Gnome Session Services Framework

2005-07-13 Thread Rodrigo Moya
that the icons in the splash screen are effectively useless? I guess that can be done as bug fixing after feature freeze. So yeah, we should add that. - How do you switch WMs with this? :-) we need, for 2.13, a GUI for starting/stopping the services I guess :) -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL

Re: Gnome Session Services Framework

2005-07-13 Thread Rodrigo Moya
should be automatically started when an app requests a component to be activated, right? So no need to autostart it. -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [PATCH] tooltip in clock applet

2005-07-18 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 14:05 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: On Fri, July 15, 2005 14:18, Rodrigo Moya said: Hi When displaying the date in the clock applet, the tooltip displays also the date, which seems redundant. This patch makes it display informative messages when it's already

Re: Gtk+ 2.8 for GNOME 2.12

2005-07-18 Thread Rodrigo Moya
without real problems, and the only one I had was quickly fixed, so my position is yeah, let's commit to 2.8 -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop

Re: [PATCH] support for YAST date config in clock applet

2005-07-19 Thread Rodrigo Moya
-config_tool should be set to config_tool, especially if you want to use the hard-coded config tools :-) It's okay to commit after that. Thanks for your work! ok, find attached what I committed, my previous patch with the fill_clock_applet addition. -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] Index

Re: Gnome Session Services Framework

2005-07-20 Thread Rodrigo Moya
in subsequent logins. - At logout, should the priority be to shut down quickly as possible? Or should we ensure all services are shut down cleanly? I think we should ensure all services are shut down cleanly. -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: new modules for 2.12

2005-07-29 Thread Rodrigo Moya
and probabally GNOME-db (I haven't had confirmation from Rodrigo yet but he has said that it would be ready previously and I only just asked him a few hours ago.) yes, gnome-db will be ready, we are about to freeze for releasing at gnome 2.12 time. -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Announcing: Project Ridley

2005-08-22 Thread Rodrigo Moya
purpose. All those would be enough to justify a GNOME 3.0 :) -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: gnomedb to Ridley , why not ?

2005-08-22 Thread Rodrigo Moya
to do it. libgda/libgnomedb are specialized libraries, which are ok to link separately, I think. But most apps don't need any DB access at all, so it makes a lot more sense either separately, as they are now, or as part of a big libgoffice library. -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: gnomedb to Ridley , why not ?

2005-08-22 Thread Rodrigo Moya
is small Are there any candidates who currently don't use it? all apps using SQLite, which there are a few, might benefit from using it. -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http

Re: [PATCH] notification hints for weather applet

2005-08-24 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Thu, 2005-08-25 at 01:25 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: Quoting Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Since I saw this was added to the battery applet, I added it also to the weather applet. Do you need to free *hints afterwards? I would expect you do... although I notice that I forgot to do

Re: [PATCH] notification hints for weather applet

2005-08-25 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Thu, 2005-08-25 at 10:22 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: On Thu, 2005-08-25 at 01:01 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote: Do you need to free *hints afterwards? I would expect you do... although I notice that I forgot to do it in the battstat code. yeah right, updated patch attached. Anyway

Re: [PATCH] notification hints for weather applet

2005-08-25 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Thu, 2005-08-25 at 11:53 +0100, Calum Benson wrote: On 25 Aug 2005, at 11:01, Rodrigo Moya wrote: ok, committed original patch to HEAD. I didn't read the code, but is this really a patch that notifies you every time the weather changes? If so, I have to say that sounds utterly

Re: Announcing: Project Ridley

2005-08-25 Thread Rodrigo Moya
gnome-vfs and others can use. and it can be in a libgnet, separated from, libglib, like we do for gmodule or gobject itself. But being as part of the official library pack makes them be official, and avoid people using different solutions for the same problem. -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: gtkspell (was Re: Announcing: Project Ridley)

2005-08-29 Thread Rodrigo Moya
. automatic selection seems to work perfectly for me. I write in Spanish and English and the evo composer gets the correct spell dictionary every time. Of course, you have to enable all the languages you want to use in Edit-Preferences-Composer-Spell checking -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED

MOTD implementation in gnome-session

2005-10-04 Thread Rodrigo Moya
/gnome-session -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? depcomp ? stamp-h1 ? gnome-session/gsm-motd.c ? gnome-session/gsm-motd.h Index: ChangeLog === RCS file: /cvs/gnome/gnome-session/ChangeLog,v retrieving revision 1.601 diff -u -p -r1.601

Re: MOTD implementation in gnome-session

2005-10-04 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Tue, 2005-10-04 at 16:48 +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote: Hi Rodrigo, On Tue, 2005-10-04 at 17:40 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote: Hi I have had this patch around for some time, and seems to work pretty well, so sending for comments and/or approval. It just makes gnome-session display

Re: MOTD implementation in gnome-session

2005-10-04 Thread Rodrigo Moya
that have nothing interesting in that file. The problem is how to deal with this? -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: MOTD implementation in gnome-session

2005-10-04 Thread Rodrigo Moya
admins put sensible info on /etc/moptd, so we might not want to show it to anyone getting to the login screen. For that, /etc/issue might be better suited, although that is of no use for most users. -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel

Re: MOTD implementation in gnome-session

2005-10-04 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Tue, 2005-10-04 at 09:21 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: It would be nice if it detects a change in the MOTD and notifies the user that it's changed (unless of course it already does that). it already does that -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: gnome-utils patch

2005-10-04 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Tue, 2005-10-04 at 16:27 -0600, Elijah Newren wrote: On 10/4/05, Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Just found out a missing argument in a call to g_snprintf, in logview. Attached patch fixes it. Ok to commit? Is bugzilla not working? ;-) I guess it is, but usually

Re: gnome-utils patch

2005-10-04 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Tue, 2005-10-04 at 23:35 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: On Wed, 2005-10-05 at 00:30 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote: On Tue, 2005-10-04 at 16:27 -0600, Elijah Newren wrote: On 10/4/05, Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Just found out a missing argument in a call to g_snprintf

Re: MOTD implementation in gnome-session

2005-10-05 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Wed, 2005-10-05 at 09:31 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: On Tue, 2005-10-04 at 18:32 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote: On Tue, 2005-10-04 at 12:30 -0400, Pat Suwalski wrote: Is login the best time to show this information or would you prefer if the user saw it immediately

Re: gnome-utils patch

2005-10-05 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Wed, 2005-10-05 at 08:58 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: Le mercredi 05 octobre 2005 à 00:50 +0200, Rodrigo Moya a écrit : yes, you are right. Maybe each project should have their own lists for this sort of things? In fact, some modules in GNOME CVS have no MAINTAINERS file, so it is very

Re: MOTD implementation in gnome-session

2005-10-06 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Thu, 2005-10-06 at 12:03 +0100, Mike Hearn wrote: On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 17:40:23 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote: It just makes gnome-session display the /etc/motd file on startup, using libnotify if available, or an ugly dialog if not. The 2 new files are to be placed in gnome-session/gnome

Re: session autostart

2005-10-06 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Thu, 2005-10-06 at 13:29 -0400, John (J5) Palmieri wrote: On Thu, 2005-10-06 at 18:26 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote: Hi So, given the recent urge to speed up gnome-session, and with the libgnomeservice pending integration, what do you think about having a BOF in the summit about gnome

Re: MOTD implementation in gnome-session

2005-10-07 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Tue, 2005-10-04 at 18:42 +0200, Stanislav Brabec wrote: Rodrigo Moya wrote: On Tue, 2005-10-04 at 18:29 +0200, Stanislav Brabec wrote: Rodrigo Moya wrote: Otherwise pure GNOME user without any terminal opened will loose UPS power failure alert or report about incoming reboot

Re: sound init in gnome-settings-daemon

2005-10-07 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Fri, 2005-10-07 at 11:54 -0400, Jody Goldberg wrote: On Fri, Oct 07, 2005 at 02:54:45PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Rodrigo Moya Looking at how to improve gnome-session startup, I found both gnome-session and gnome-settings-daemon are starting ESD. I guess we really

gnome-control-center has been branched

2005-10-10 Thread Rodrigo Moya
new maintainers will have to answer to this with their plans [1] cheers 1. yeah, we still don't have a common plan, but that's because we just started, we'll come up with a common one in the next few days. -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop

do we really need xrdb?

2005-10-17 Thread Rodrigo Moya
thing in gnome-settings-daemon? -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: do we really need xrdb?

2005-10-17 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Mon, 2005-10-17 at 13:16 +0100, Ross Burton wrote: On Mon, 2005-10-17 at 13:18 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote: One of the best improvements we've seen while working on speeding up the GNOME startup time has been the removal of the xsettings thing, via xrdb -merge execution. Oh

Re: do we really need xrdb?

2005-10-18 Thread Rodrigo Moya
? -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: User Switching in 2.14

2005-10-24 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Sat, 2005-10-22 at 15:56 -0500, James M. Cape wrote: I'd like to get fast-user switching functionality into 2.14. Great news! My vote is for it, I've been using it now for a few weeks, and it works really great. -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: User Switching in 2.14

2005-10-24 Thread Rodrigo Moya
works, that may just be because Apple did it that way. Is there a better UI representation we can come up with? maybe a menu item in the Desktop menu seems a better fit? -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel

Re: Proposal for inclusion in desktop: gnome-screensaver

2005-10-26 Thread Rodrigo Moya
on this regard, which is to suggest not to use root at all, and if so, not ask for password, because of security implications in fact. -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org

Re: Proposal for inclusion in desktop: gnome-screensaver

2005-10-27 Thread Rodrigo Moya
it, then, why can't you just enter the password, and go to Desktop-Log out, and select suspend from that dialog? -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop

Re: Gnome 2.14 Module Proposal: Deskbar Applet

2005-10-27 Thread Rodrigo Moya
would crash -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Gnome 2.14 Module Proposal: Deskbar Applet

2005-10-31 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Thu, 2005-10-27 at 17:07 +0200, Benoît Dejean wrote: Le jeudi 27 octobre 2005 à 16:51 +0200, Rodrigo Moya a écrit : On Thu, 2005-10-27 at 15:39 +0100, Jamie McCracken wrote: (I think how to optimize C applets is a different topic) as a first step, doing all applets .so bonobo

Re: Proposal for inclusion in Desktop: GNOME Power Manager

2005-10-31 Thread Rodrigo Moya
on the panel, or in some other non-obtrusive way. If we have two separate things showing battery power in the core desktop then we've obviously done something wrong. AFAIK, g-p-m should just replace battast, so it shouldn't be running when g-p-m is running. -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Should I propose sabayon?

2005-11-14 Thread Rodrigo Moya
if/when an admin release suite is created, we can just shift the appropriate modules over to the other release. I was going to say the same, so Just my $0.02, $0.04 -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel

Re: Gnome 2.14 Module Proposal: Nautilus-actions

2005-11-29 Thread Rodrigo Moya
(not sure how it works exactly) or make it only appears in the Edit menu of the window if possible... what do you think ? I'd vote for having all actions in an 'Actions' submenu. -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop

Re: Proposing libnotify and notification-daemon for GNOME 2.14

2005-12-09 Thread Rodrigo Moya
it, like gnome-applets, for instance. -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: autotools gives autopain

2005-12-16 Thread Rodrigo Moya
to scons? Limited supply, order now! starting with simplest stuff, like small applications or libraries, like libgnome, libgnomeui, might be a good start -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http

Re: Session manager status?

2005-12-30 Thread Rodrigo Moya
better though. -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Proposing libnotify and notification-daemon for GNOME 2.14

2006-01-03 Thread Rodrigo Moya
-project.org/. anybody has changed any of the apps that use the old version to use the new one? -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

new sound applet

2006-01-11 Thread Rodrigo Moya
Hi I've just committed a patch to control-center from the SuSE packages from Scott Reeves that changes the look feel of the sound applet, just making it for system sounds. If anyone has anything against it/something to suggest, please have a look at it. -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Trying to reach consensus for the proposed modules

2006-01-12 Thread Rodrigo Moya
?) on IRC, he told me it was :-) Probably needs some discussion first, though. Some modules already have optional dependency and can use it. I think it was proposed, not sure now that you mention it. I think it would be a great addition to 2.14. -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Trying to reach consensus for the proposed modules

2006-01-12 Thread Rodrigo Moya
-extras is needed by (installed) gnome-screensaver-0.0.24-1.1.fc4.nr.i386 control center (and other gnome modules) try to use gnome-screensaver if installed, and if not, they fall back to xscreensaver, so you can make the control-center package depend on either xscreensaver/g-s. -- Rodrigo Moya

Re: Trying to reach consensus for the proposed modules

2006-01-16 Thread Rodrigo Moya
a lot. -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: New modules in 2.14

2006-01-17 Thread Rodrigo Moya
-a? -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: New modules in 2.14

2006-01-17 Thread Rodrigo Moya
anywhere?) http://galago-project.org/specs/notification/index.php not sure if it's up-to-date, but should give you a broad view of how it works. -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http

~/.gnome2/share/fonts

2006-01-17 Thread Rodrigo Moya
Hi What is ~/.gnome2/share/fonts for? What programs/libs access it? Bug: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=310089 -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman

Re: New modules in 2.14

2006-01-19 Thread Rodrigo Moya
about Edgy. suse is also shipping it -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: control-center 2.13.90 released

2006-02-03 Thread Rodrigo Moya
before nautilus does anything, to let GConf change all the values. See libnautilus-private/nautilus-directory-background.c:328 hmm, can't we just use a ChangeSet and do all changes at once and thus remove the timeout? -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED

esd patch for control center

2006-02-06 Thread Rodrigo Moya
its validity before I submit it to CVS and the release team? -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.desktop-service ? org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.service ? org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.service.in ? performance-patch.diff Index: gnome-settings-sound.c

Re: Design by Community

2006-02-08 Thread Rodrigo Moya
freedom to do what they want in their modules. The problem with big changes is on modules the person doing the big change doesn't maintain. -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http

Re: Design by Community

2006-02-08 Thread Rodrigo Moya
... where is GNOME? not if the changes are not kept proprietary and sent upstream sooner or later. -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Sorry State

2006-02-08 Thread Rodrigo Moya
, there has never been a fork, so, why do people talk about forks? It's not that Novell/Ximian is a newcomer to the GNOME world and has to demonstrate its good willings. -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list

Re: Sorry State

2006-02-08 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 12:45 +0100, Arturo González wrote: El mié, 08--2006 a las 12:29 +0100, Rodrigo Moya escribió: On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 10:42 +0100, Arturo González wrote: El mié, 08--2006 a las 10:10 +0100, Manu Cornet escribió: I'm not saying taking our time to discuss

Re: Design by Community

2006-02-08 Thread Rodrigo Moya
releases. As for other changes, most are upstream in one form or the other. Notifications (libnotify), login speedup improvements (g-c-c and gnome-session), gnome-volume-manager, networkmanager, etc, etc -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop

Re: esd patch for control center

2006-02-09 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 18:47 +0100, Rodrigo Moya wrote: Hi One of the things GNOME is doing on log in is to execute a couple times (one in gnome-session and one in gnome-settings-daemon) esound daemon. Attached patch makes the settings daemon not execute it if already running. Since I'm

Re: new module decisions [was Re: gnome-screensaver]

2006-02-16 Thread Rodrigo Moya
column in the list. When all columns are ticked, the module gets accepted. Also, any concern about proposed modules should be only valid if accompanied by a detailed bug report. -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop

Re: new module decisions [was Re: gnome-screensaver]

2006-02-17 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 09:38 +0100, Alexander Larsson wrote: On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 01:41 +0100, Rodrigo Moya wrote: So, what if we just set a list of things a module has to conform with to get accepted and base our decisions on that? For instance, we could have: * uses at least basic

Re: Kick libxklavier from the release set and make it an invalid dependency?

2006-02-28 Thread Rodrigo Moya
depending on it only do so optionally and not compiled in by default Comments? there are a couple fixes at least in our CVS copy of libxklavier, so we should make sure those are committed upstream. -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list

Re: gnome-session api break

2006-02-28 Thread Rodrigo Moya
add that code if you want, but I see no point in doing it, since no applications use that directory (at least in GNOME CVS). -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman

Re: gnome-session api break

2006-02-28 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 17:09 +0100, Sebastien Bacher wrote: Le mardi 28 février 2006 à 16:55 +0100, Rodrigo Moya a écrit : again, since only 1 module in GNOME CVS uses it, why would we need to support the old directory? I can add that code if you want, but I see no point in doing it, since

no need to spawn esd

2006-03-02 Thread Rodrigo Moya
it doesn't break anything before I submit them? -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] Index: gnome-settings-sound.c === RCS file: /cvs/gnome/gnome-control-center/gnome-settings-daemon/gnome-settings-sound.c,v retrieving revision 1.14 diff -u

Re: no need to spawn esd

2006-03-03 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Fri, 2006-03-03 at 08:11 -0800, David Schleef wrote: On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 12:26:09PM +0100, Rodrigo Moya wrote: It seems there really is no need to run esd from gnome-session and gnome-settings-daemon, since libesound will spawn it when needed. So, here are two patches for g

Re: no need to spawn esd

2006-03-03 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Fri, 2006-03-03 at 08:43 -0800, David Schleef wrote: On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 05:32:41PM +0100, Rodrigo Moya wrote: On Fri, 2006-03-03 at 08:11 -0800, David Schleef wrote: On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 12:26:09PM +0100, Rodrigo Moya wrote: It seems there really is no need to run esd from

Re: Gnome 2.16 Module Proposal: GNOME Power Manager

2006-04-10 Thread Rodrigo Moya
-p-m architecture, with the 'daemon' being also the notification icon makes a lot of sense. If adding the tray icon on startup is wrong, then I guess we can easily delay the addition of the icon, like we do with the typing break, for instance. -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Notification icons hell (was Re: [gpm] Re: Gnome 2.16 Module Proposal: GNOME Power Manager)

2006-04-10 Thread Rodrigo Moya
, but the icon disappeared??? oh, that's a bug, please file it :) -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: [gpm] Re: Gnome 2.16 Module Proposal: GNOME Power Manager

2006-04-10 Thread Rodrigo Moya
don't care. Usually, AFAIK, batteries have a longer life if you charge them completely and then discharge them completely, so at least from my experience, you really care when it's fully charged so that you can unplug it from AC and start discharging. -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [gpm] Re: Gnome 2.16 Module Proposal: GNOME Power Manager

2006-04-10 Thread Rodrigo Moya
that, I'd say g-p-m is ready. Some integration work might be needed (like inhibit thing Richard added), but nothing that can't be done in the 2.15/2.16 development process. -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel

Re: [gpm] Re: Gnome 2.16 Module Proposal: GNOME Power Manager

2006-04-10 Thread Rodrigo Moya
to suspend/hibernate/set power save profile. -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Proposal to add Orca to GNOME 2.16

2006-04-11 Thread Rodrigo Moya
and disable it. -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

gnome-control-center has been branched for 2.14

2006-04-12 Thread Rodrigo Moya
g-c-c has been branched, so there's now a gnome-2-14 branch for further 2.14 fixes. No specific plans for HEAD/2.15 yet, apart from, right now, committing some patches in bugzilla that were waiting for the branch. Suggestions/ideas on what should be fixed/improved are appreciated -- Rodrigo Moya

Re: gnome-control-center has been branched for 2.14

2006-04-17 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Wed, 2006-04-12 at 15:07 -0600, Elijah Newren wrote: On 4/12/06, Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: g-c-c has been branched, so there's now a gnome-2-14 branch for further 2.14 fixes. No specific plans for HEAD/2.15 yet, apart from, right now, committing some patches in bugzilla

Re: libnotify and the HIG

2006-04-17 Thread Rodrigo Moya
computer stuff. if you have the g-p-m icon on your systray, it makes a lot of sense to me to position the notification on that icon, so that users get easily directed to the place to do power management tasks. Not sure if that's the correct way, but it makes sense to me. -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL

Re: Tomboy in 2.16

2006-04-20 Thread Rodrigo Moya
for the integration too. great! Then let's move all apps to e-d-s API. Any objection? -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Re:Mono bindings a blessed dependency? [Was: Tomboy in 2.16]

2006-04-21 Thread Rodrigo Moya
integration, for instance), so that we don't force 3rd parties to use them if they don't want to. -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Mono bindings a blessed dependency? [Was: Tomboy in 2.16]

2006-04-21 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Fri, 2006-04-21 at 11:17 +0100, Jamie McCracken wrote: Rodrigo Moya wrote: On Thu, 2006-04-20 at 23:00 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: There are other languages bindings in our release set, but none of them have been similarly blessed. Assuming Gtk# is added to the bindings set, should

Re: gnome-session branched for 2.14

2006-04-25 Thread Rodrigo Moya
looking at gnome-session code for the last few months, so even though I still don't know all of it, I can help in reviewing patches, if you want. + make it clear that, no, I'm not a gnome-session maintainer unless you find another official maintainer, you are :) -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Tomboy in 2.16

2006-04-26 Thread Rodrigo Moya
the sticky thing, to just stick the opened notes, not all. If you have lots of notes, having them all stuck on the screen is a PITA. -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman

control-center renaming to gnome-control-center

2006-05-29 Thread Rodrigo Moya
Hi gnome-control-center module in CVS has 'control-center' as the tarball name, not sure why. So, I'm planning to change it to gnome-control-center to match the CVS module name. Anyone has any good reason for not doing so? -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: libgswitchit + libkbdraw = ... ?

2006-07-12 Thread Rodrigo Moya
about really starting once for all a new library to put this kind of small libraries into one gnome-desktop-policy library. Or even, the non-GTK part could be proposed as freedesktop modules? Are they of any use outside of GNOME? -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Time to heat up the new module discussion

2006-07-12 Thread Rodrigo Moya
allow modules to depend on any of the official bindings. -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: Gnome 2.15.4 is broken

2006-07-12 Thread Rodrigo Moya
are rolling tarballs for gnome-control-center and gnome-applets now) g-c-c 2.15.4 is now available. -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel

Re: Time to heat up the new module discussion

2006-07-14 Thread Rodrigo Moya
, although it doesn't seem to be technically correct because of all the duplicate code: there would way too many unneeded possible failure points and wasted resources. you are right, but what is so different with Mono that this wasn't raised when Python was included? -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL

Re: New panel layout for GNOME 2.18?

2006-08-23 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Wed, 2006-08-23 at 04:33 +0100, Alan Horkan wrote: On Tue, 22 Aug 2006, Alex Graveley wrote: Slab is a better system and GNOME should use it by default, IMHO :) Does Novell actually want to propose it anytime soon? yes, we are discussing how to integrate it better -- Rodrigo Moya

Re: gnome-utils branched for GNOME 2.16

2006-09-04 Thread Rodrigo Moya
and GStreamer video codecs). this looks a much better UI for Istanbul than what it currently (= last time I tried it) has, an icon on the tray. Count my vote on this :-) -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list

control-center branched for 2.16

2006-09-04 Thread Rodrigo Moya
control-center has been branched for 2.16 (gnome-2-16 branch). In HEAD, new development will start, which includes: - probably, merging of some applets - new control-center shell, probably the one from SLED - improvements in the capplets - bug fixes -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: gnome-utils branched for GNOME 2.16

2006-09-05 Thread Rodrigo Moya
recording, which I imagine is more interesting to more people. writing a nice frontend for vncviewer shouldn't be hard at all, should it? -- Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http

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