Re: Proposal to deploy GitLab on gnome.org

[Kunal Jain]

I agree with Ray. Open ACLs is a big + for GNOME and there are no
significant evidence of abuse of that. Big NO for the artificial
barriers by fine grained ACLs

On 16 May 2017 at 23:51, Ray Strode  wrote:
> Hi,
>>
>> It's quite hard to get commit access atm because you have to be
>> trusted initially. If a maintainer can give commit access to one repo
>> he/she watches anyway there is less trust needed in the beginning. Or
>> if a new contributor wants to take over an abandoned project.
>
> is that true? I mean you have to have someone with commit access vouch for
> you but that's a pretty low bar. I don't think it should be any lower than
> that, but I also wouldn't want to see it higher than that.  GNOME has had
> open ACLs from the beginning and it's a good thing! There's no evidence of
> abuse, we shouldn't go locking everything down just because we can.
>
> IMO, there should be three access tiers:
>
> 1) Can report issues and propose fixes
> 2) Can triage issues
> 3) Can fix issues
>
> Anything more granular than that is a bad idea. It just introduces
> artificial barriers that people will run into. (What happens when a
> maintainer goes AWOL ?)
>
> Let's keep things open like we always have!
>
> --Ray
>
>
>
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Re: Hosting Paperwork on gnome.org

[Kunal Jain]

+1! Sounds like a good first step too me!

On 02-May-2017 18:25,  wrote:

> Hosting Paperwork on gnome.org looks like a good first step.
>
> If that's ok with everybody here, I'm going to start the discussion on
> Paperwork's side. I will ask whether all
> Paperwork's contributors would agree to switch to Gnome.org (I doubt there
> will be any objection).
>
>
> 2 mai 2017 14:12 "Sébastien Wilmet"  a écrit:
>
> > On Mon, May 01, 2017 at 02:51:42PM +0200, Jerome Flesch wrote:
> >
> >> Assuming this is actually a good fit for Gnome, I'm not sure where to
> >> start either. Any indications would be welcome.
> >
> > Paperwork is at least a good fit for hosting it on gnome.org. Some
> > projects are hosted on gnome.org without being part of GNOME core. I
> > think this would be a good first step.
> >
> > It's a bit old, but it's still mostly relevant, and this might convince
> > you:
> > https://blogs.gnome.org/johannes/2010/06/04/why-gnome-org
> >
> > Once a project is hosted on gnome.org, if you ask the sysadmins it's
> > possible to still use GitHub pull requests to handle contributions
> > (instead of having patches on bugzilla, IMHO the only ugly thing about
> > hosting a project on gnome.org).
> >
> > Once Paperwork is hosted on gnome.org, the release team could discuss
> > whether to add it e.g. in the "Extra apps" category, or even in the
> > "Core apps" if everyone agree that it would be nice that distros install
> > it by default. See this recent blog post for the different categories
> > and examples of apps in each category:
> > https://blogs.gnome.org/mcatanzaro/2016/09/21/gnome-3-22-core-apps
> >
> > But even if Papework is just hosted on gnome.org without being
> > officially part of GNOME, this would bring your project more visibility
> > I think. And a nice side-effect is that it'll be easier for you to
> > contribute to other GNOME modules if you want, because you'll already
> > have all the necessary accounts, permissions etc.
> >
> > To host a new project on gnome.org, all the information should be there:
> > https://wiki.gnome.org/MaintainersCorner
> >
> > -
> >
> > From a technical point of view, I don't know if it's already the case,
> > but it would be nice to have a library with the features that Paperwork
> > provides, so if one day Simple Scan or Documents want to use some
> > features of Papework, it would be easily possible thanks to the library.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Sébastien
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Re: Paperwork : a personal document manager (scanned and PDFs)

[Kunal Jain]

The features you described look promising, some of which we surely lack and
are useful. But we need to find a way how this application fits in the
GNOME suite.

On 01-May-2017 23:13,  wrote:

> 1 mai 2017 18:20 "Michael Catanzaro"  a écrit:
>
> > On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 10:59 AM, Matthias Clasen <
> matthias.cla...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 8:51 AM, Jerome Flesch  >
> wrote:
> >
> > On Github, someone told me that there is someone else in the Gnome
> > design team working on mockups for a new document manager / scan
> > application[1][2]. It looks quite similar to an application I've been
> > working on for a while: Paperwork.
> > Website: https://openpaper.work
> > Sources: https://github.com/openpaperwork/paperwork/#readme
> > Demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMazTTM6ltg
> >> The mockups you've seen are not for a new application, but rather to >
> provide a face-lift for
> >> simple-scan.
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm curious: can you please describe your use case for having a second
> document manager in addition
> > to Documents? I don't want to prejudge, but I'm a bit skeptical as to
> how adding a new app to
> > maintain would be better for GNOME than just improving Documents and
> Simple Scan.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Michael
>
> It's mainly focused at scanned documents and being as lazy as possible. So
> there are some elements that differ from Documents + Simple-scan:
> - OCR (I guess that could be added in simple-scan)
> - Focus on not having to sort documents in the file-system at all. Not
> even having to name them.
> - Automatic labeling of documents when they are added (uses Bayesian
> filters)
> - Fuzzy searches: because exact searches are no good when the OCR messes
> some letters. And you don't
> want to waste time fixing OCR results (I assume Tracker can do that do,
> but I've never been really fund of Tracker & such)
> - Export: includes OCR text in the output PDF + allows to clean the
> scanned images
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