Re: target-group committed

2008-11-28 Thread Jean-Louis BOUDART
I'm +1 for this solution 2008/11/26 Dominique Devienne [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Bruce Atherton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or you could just live with the verbosity of the target list, like I did, and use naming conventions in EasyAnt. I'm sure there are many other

Re: target-group committed

2008-11-28 Thread Jean-Louis BOUDART
Any news on this point? 2008/11/24 Xavier Hanin [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 12:26 AM, Jean-Louis BOUDART [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In addition, as we use target-group to have more genericity we doesn't want to have prefix on those generic targets. I'm afraid I

Re: target-group committed

2008-11-28 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2008-11-28, Jean-Louis BOUDART [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any news on this point? I've still not seen any argument that convinced me that the naming rules for include should be different, but that's just me. On the target-group as composite side, I may start to understand it, but feel that

Re: target-group committed

2008-11-26 Thread Gilles Scokart
I was asking to myself the same question : why only 2 levels? I think you are right, we don't need different type of targets, what we should have is a new type of relationship between targets : the PartOf relationship that allow to plug a 'lower' level target INTO an other target. But for the

Re: target-group committed

2008-11-26 Thread Bruce Atherton
Right. I see a part-of relationship of arbitrary depth as being best implemented using a Composite design pattern. A target-group is a composite for targets but is itself also a target. The level idea was only an example off the top of my head, but in thinking about it you are right that

Re: target-group committed

2008-11-26 Thread Dominique Devienne
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Bruce Atherton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or you could just live with the verbosity of the target list, like I did, and use naming conventions in EasyAnt. I'm sure there are many other ways to address the issue. One possible way would be to provide an

Re: target-group committed

2008-11-25 Thread Bruce Atherton
I am in the same boat as Stefan. I also don't understand yet why target-groups are not just targets to the person running Ant. What you appear to be arguing here is that there should be two levels to Ant targets. But why just two? Why not three or four or five? I've written build systems

Re: target-group committed

2008-11-24 Thread Xavier Hanin
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 12:26 AM, Jean-Louis BOUDART [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In addition, as we use target-group to have more genericity we doesn't want to have prefix on those generic targets. I'm afraid I don't understand this. One of your selling points for include was that

AW: target-group committed

2008-11-24 Thread Jan.Materne
In addition, as we use target-group to have more genericity we doesn't want to have prefix on those generic targets. I'm afraid I don't understand this. One of your selling points for include was that the included build is self-contained and remains that way by prefixing all

Re: target-group committed

2008-11-21 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2008-11-21, Jean-Louis BOUDART [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Suppose you have a build with 10 target-group which represent 10 different generic step of your build process (like compile / package/ test/ etc...) Then I'd consider this to be the public API and import it. And behind you have 30

Re: target-group committed

2008-11-20 Thread Xavier Hanin
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 6:22 AM, Stefan Bodewig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2008-11-19, Jean-Louis BOUDART [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just have two questions : I knew I didn't reproduce all of EasyAnt's patch 8-) - Does prefix of import / include make sense on target-group? Or

Re: target-group committed

2008-11-20 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2008-11-19, Stefan Bodewig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe this should be a comma-separeted list of traget-groups to add to instead. [Maybe I should proof-read my mails before I hit C-c C-c.] The target-group attribute now accepts a comma-separated list in svn revision 719198. Stefan

Re: target-group committed

2008-11-20 Thread Gilles Scokart
I think if you want to show nice dynamic help, with rich (understand specific) logic to select what to display, you should probably use an help module in EasyAnt, (I mean an imported help build file exposing an help target ot target-group). Gilles 2008/11/20 Xavier Hanin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On

Re: target-group committed

2008-11-20 Thread Jean-Louis BOUDART
I agree with Xavier a target-group is something at a higher level than a target. I think that the key feature of target-group is dependency injection but as Xavier says if thread-group is the only way to have target dependency injection, then people may use it only for that, and complain about

Re: target-group committed

2008-11-20 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2008-11-20, Xavier Hanin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure if it's directly related to thread-group, or to the usage made of thread-group in EasyAnt: could you please explain what a thread-group in EasyAnt is/does? Thanks Stefan

Re: target-group committed

2008-11-20 Thread Jean-Louis BOUDART
I think this is a typo he wanted to say target-group IMHO :p 2008/11/20 Stefan Bodewig [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 2008-11-20, Xavier Hanin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure if it's directly related to thread-group, or to the usage made of thread-group in EasyAnt: could you please explain

Re: target-group committed

2008-11-20 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2008-11-20, Jean-Louis BOUDART [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The fact is target-group is not only a way to have dependency management, but a new way to think your build-script. Yes, but only for the person who writes the build file, not the one who uses it. -projecthelp is for the user. I

Re: target-group committed

2008-11-20 Thread Jean-Louis BOUDART
The fact is target-group is not only a way to have dependency management, but a new way to think your build-script. Yes, but only for the person who writes the build file, not the one who uses it. -projecthelp is for the user. I guess for us target-group is useful to make build modules

target-group committed

2008-11-19 Thread Stefan Bodewig
Hi all, svn revision 718943 contains target-group (without documentation) as a special kind of target that must always be empty. targets and target-groups have a new attribute target-group that can be used to add the target(-group) to a named target-group that must have been defined already[1].

Re: target-group committed

2008-11-19 Thread Jean-Louis BOUDART
svn revision 718943 contains target-group (without documentation) as a special kind of target that must always be empty. targets and target-groups have a new attribute target-group that can be used to add the target(-group) to a named target-group that must have been defined already[1].

Re: target-group committed

2008-11-19 Thread Jean-Louis BOUDART
Hum little mistake in my explanation : By typing ant -p 1) Case of target and target-group mixed project help will display something like :*Available target :* compile -- compile the current projet org.apache.ant#jar.compile-java -- compile java classes on the current project package -- package

Re: target-group committed

2008-11-19 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2008-11-19, Jean-Louis BOUDART [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just have two questions : I knew I didn't reproduce all of EasyAnt's patch 8-) - Does prefix of import / include make sense on target-group? Or should we consider target-group as an abstract target that is never prefixed?