Re: Debug logging enabled by default since 2.2

2018-03-19 Thread Mick Semb Wever
> For this reason I'm more in favor of converting the debug.log into async/verbose_system.log as suggested by Jeremiah and use a marker to direct these logs (former DEBUG level logs) to that log instead. +1 Thanks for the inclusive and considerate summary Paulo, and for the suggestion that

Re: RE: how to fix constantly getting out of memory (3.11)

2018-03-19 Thread Jay Zhuang
Hi, For CASSANDRA-13929, The patch is available for review. Anyone interested in reviewing it? Thanks,Jay On Tuesday, December 12, 2017, 5:02:14 AM PST, Steinmaurer, Thomas wrote: Hi, if you are talking about on-heap troubles, then the following

RE: A JIRA proposing a seperate repository for the online documentation

2018-03-19 Thread Kenneth Brotman
I've been trying to withdraw from the conversation since Friday. -Original Message- From: Josh McKenzie [mailto:jmcken...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 9:56 AM To: dev@cassandra.apache.org Subject: Re: A JIRA proposing a seperate repository for the online documentation And to

Re: A JIRA proposing a seperate repository for the online documentation

2018-03-19 Thread Josh McKenzie
And to be explicit about this: I'm going to withdraw from this conversation now. I don't think we're generating sufficient signal in this dialog compared to the noise. Thanks for the enthusiasm and input Kenneth. On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Josh McKenzie wrote: >

Re: A JIRA proposing a seperate repository for the online documentation

2018-03-19 Thread Josh McKenzie
> > You missed the point ... let them do it their way when it makes no > difference If you're suggesting we use a static markdown based generator as the "go to" method for content generation and accept PR's for "New Hotness" (do it their way), then sure, that seems a totally fair compromise.

RE: A JIRA proposing a seperate repository for the online documentation

2018-03-19 Thread Kenneth Brotman
You missed the point. If someone can do a good job on something, just let them do it their way when it makes no difference. Specifically regarding the website, I should be able to submit HTML, CSS and JS if I want, others should be able to do it with the static generator thing if they want.

Re: Debug logging enabled by default since 2.2

2018-03-19 Thread Jeremiah D Jordan
People seem hung up on DEBUG here. The goal of CASSANDRA-10241 was to clean up the system.log so that it a very high “signal” in terms of what was logged to it synchronously, but without reducing the ability of the logs to allow people to solve problems and perform post mortem analysis of

Re: A JIRA proposing a seperate repository for the online documentation

2018-03-19 Thread Josh McKenzie
Wow. Ok, let's try this again. Josh, you made my point for me. Lower the barriers to entry Kenneth, I disagree. The C* community is not expressing universal interest in having a hand-crafted bespoke website, but many have expressed being open to using markdown to create content. Former: high

RE: Website front page broken links

2018-03-19 Thread Kenneth Brotman
Split the ticket up. Don't leave the home page broken for weeks! Move the third party discussion to another JIRA. Get the home page fixed ASAP! Kenneth Brotman -Original Message- From: Hannu Kröger [mailto:hkro...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 12:43 AM To:

RE: A JIRA proposing a seperate repository for the online documentation

2018-03-19 Thread Kenneth Brotman
Josh, you made my point for me. Lower the barriers to entry, not throw extra steps I don’t need at me. If someone like me offers to knock out something that's been a problem for the group and can do a very professional job, next time get out of the way. I don't make junk Josh. Sorry that

Re: Debug logging enabled by default since 2.2

2018-03-19 Thread Stefan Podkowinski
I'd agree that INFO should be the default. Turning on the DEBUG logging can cause notable performance issues and I would not enable it on production systems unless I really have to. That's why I created  CASSANDRA-12696 for 4.0, so you'll be able to at least only partially enable DEBUG based on

Re: Debug logging enabled by default since 2.2

2018-03-19 Thread Josh McKenzie
> > In a way the real issue might be that we don’t have nightly performance > runs that would make an accidentally introduced debug statement obvious. First off, very much this. Secondly, IMO it's inconsistent to leave / use assertions in a code-base as a mix of preconditions and assertions but

Re: A JIRA proposing a seperate repository for the online documentation

2018-03-19 Thread Josh McKenzie
> > I've been writing html a long time; since about 1990. You're asking me to > learn a weird little program, a static site generator just to change > something I can already do without using a program at all. You're one person among a community of back-end Java devs. If you want people to

Re: Debug logging enabled by default since 2.2

2018-03-19 Thread Alain RODRIGUEZ
Hello, I am not developing Cassandra, but I am using it actively and helping people to work with it. My perspective might be missing some code considerations and history as I did not go through the ticket where this 'debug' level was added by default. But here is a feedback after upgrading a few

RE: Debug logging enabled by default since 2.2

2018-03-19 Thread Jacques-Henri Berthemet
If debug log is not a real debug then you should rename it to something else, maybe production.log. Also, I have the impression that all logs in system.log are also contained in debug.log so it's not really useful. I feel that be moving all verbose debug logs to trace we're losing the good

Re: Website front page broken links

2018-03-19 Thread Hannu Kröger
ah, of course. Sorry for the duplicate. Hannu > On 19 Mar 2018, at 09:36, kurt greaves wrote: > > A ticket already exists that covers this, with a patch. just needs some > consensus around the third party page. > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-14128 > >

Re: Website front page broken links

2018-03-19 Thread kurt greaves
A ticket already exists that covers this, with a patch. just needs some consensus around the third party page. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-14128 On 19 Mar. 2018 18:26, "Hannu Kröger" wrote: > Hello, > > I created this ticket >

Website front page broken links

2018-03-19 Thread Hannu Kröger
Hello, I created this ticket https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-14324 Basically the website front page contains manybroken links to planetcassandra.org Hannu - To unsubscribe, e-mail: