Re: [VOTE] Project governance wiki doc (take 2)

2020-06-25 Thread Joshua McKenzie
Probably worth linking to the apache CoC in our wiki if we haven't already. On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 2:31 PM Dinesh Joshi wrote: > > On Jun 25, 2020, at 8:28 AM, Joshua McKenzie > wrote: > > > > Dinesh - I expect to see a [DISCUSS] thread from you about our CoC > shortly. > > :) > > > > I am

Re: [VOTE] Project governance wiki doc (take 2)

2020-06-25 Thread Dinesh Joshi
> On Jun 25, 2020, at 8:28 AM, Joshua McKenzie wrote: > > Dinesh - I expect to see a [DISCUSS] thread from you about our CoC shortly. > :) > I am satisfied with Benedict's clarification. ASF CoC and processes outlined in there are fine. Dinesh > ~Josh > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 4:17 AM

Re: [VOTE] Project governance wiki doc (take 2)

2020-06-25 Thread Joshua McKenzie
Vote results: Binding +1's: 17 Binding +0's: 1 Binding -1's: 0 Non-binding +1's: 9 Non-binding +0's: 1 Non-binding -1's: 0 The vote passes. pmc quorum for the next six months (or whatever cadence we decide to roll call on) will be 18, with low watermark of simple majority to pass pmc votes

Re: [VOTE] Project governance wiki doc (take 2)

2020-06-25 Thread Benedict Elliott Smith
The purpose of this document is to define only how the project makes decisions, and it lists "tenets" of conduct only as a preamble for interpreting the rules on decision-making. The authors' intent was to lean on this to minimise the rigidity and prescriptiveness in the formulation of the

Re: [VOTE] Project governance wiki doc (take 2)

2020-06-24 Thread Dinesh Joshi
> On Jun 24, 2020, at 6:01 PM, Brandon Williams wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 5:43 PM Dinesh Joshi wrote: >> 1. How/Who/Where are we planning to deal with Code of Conduct violations? I >> assume this should be private@ but the document does not call it out as >> such. We should call it

Re: [VOTE] Project governance wiki doc (take 2)

2020-06-24 Thread Jeremy Hanna
> On Jun 25, 2020, at 10:56 AM, Jordan West wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 3:43 PM Dinesh Joshi wrote: > >> 3. Discussion #3 - "... 1 business day notice period." Whose business day >> is it? US? Europe? Australia? NZ? We are a distributed community and so 1 >> business day is

Re: [VOTE] Project governance wiki doc (take 2)

2020-06-24 Thread Brandon Williams
On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 5:43 PM Dinesh Joshi wrote: > 1. How/Who/Where are we planning to deal with Code of Conduct violations? I > assume this should be private@ but the document does not call it out as such. > We should call it out explicitly as part of the PMC responsibilities. We > should

Re: [VOTE] Project governance wiki doc (take 2)

2020-06-24 Thread Jordan West
On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 3:43 PM Dinesh Joshi wrote: > 3. Discussion #3 - "... 1 business day notice period." Whose business day > is it? US? Europe? Australia? NZ? We are a distributed community and so 1 > business day is ambiguous. ASF typically states a 48-72 hour period which > gives enough

Re: [VOTE] Project governance wiki doc (take 2)

2020-06-24 Thread Dinesh Joshi
+0 I realize this is a vote thread and I am late for feedback but I wanted to point out a couple things: 1. How/Who/Where are we planning to deal with Code of Conduct violations? I assume this should be private@ but the document does not call it out as such. We should call it out explicitly

Re: [VOTE] Project governance wiki doc (take 2)

2020-06-24 Thread sankalp kohli
+1 On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 8:37 AM Jake Luciani wrote: > +1 (b) > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 9:59 AM Joshua McKenzie > wrote: > > > A reminder: this vote will close at midnight PST today in roughly 17 > hours. > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 2:20 PM J. D. Jordan > > wrote: > > > > > +1

Re: [VOTE] Project governance wiki doc (take 2)

2020-06-24 Thread Jake Luciani
+1 (b) On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 9:59 AM Joshua McKenzie wrote: > A reminder: this vote will close at midnight PST today in roughly 17 hours. > > > On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 2:20 PM J. D. Jordan > wrote: > > > +1 non-binding > > > > > On Jun 22, 2020, at 1:18 PM, Stefan Podkowinski > wrote: > > >

Re: [VOTE] Project governance wiki doc (take 2)

2020-06-24 Thread Joshua McKenzie
A reminder: this vote will close at midnight PST today in roughly 17 hours. On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 2:20 PM J. D. Jordan wrote: > +1 non-binding > > > On Jun 22, 2020, at 1:18 PM, Stefan Podkowinski wrote: > > > > +1 > > > >> On 22.06.20 20:12, Blake Eggleston wrote: > >> +1 > >> > On

Re: [VOTE] Project governance wiki doc (take 2)

2020-06-22 Thread J. D. Jordan
+1 non-binding > On Jun 22, 2020, at 1:18 PM, Stefan Podkowinski wrote: > > +1 > >> On 22.06.20 20:12, Blake Eggleston wrote: >> +1 >> On Jun 20, 2020, at 8:12 AM, Joshua McKenzie wrote: >>> >>> Link to doc: >>>

Re: [VOTE] Project governance wiki doc (take 2)

2020-06-22 Thread Stefan Podkowinski
+1 On 22.06.20 20:12, Blake Eggleston wrote: +1 On Jun 20, 2020, at 8:12 AM, Joshua McKenzie wrote: Link to doc: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Apache+Cassandra+Project+Governance Change since previous cancelled vote: "A simple majority of this electorate becomes the

Re: [VOTE] Project governance wiki doc (take 2)

2020-06-22 Thread Blake Eggleston
+1 > On Jun 20, 2020, at 8:12 AM, Joshua McKenzie wrote: > > Link to doc: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Apache+Cassandra+Project+Governance > > Change since previous cancelled vote: > "A simple majority of this electorate becomes the low-watermark for votes > in

Re: [VOTE] Project governance wiki doc (take 2)

2020-06-22 Thread Joseph Lynch
On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 3:23 AM Benedict Elliott Smith wrote: > > If you read the clauses literally there's no conflict - not all committers > that +1 the change need to review the work. It just means that two > committers have indicated they are comfortable with the patch being merged. >

Re: [VOTE] Project governance wiki doc (take 2)

2020-06-22 Thread Andrés de la Peña
+1 (nb) On Mon, 22 Jun 2020 at 17:15, Eric Evans wrote: > +0 > > On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 10:12 AM Joshua McKenzie > wrote: > > > > Link to doc: > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Apache+Cassandra+Project+Governance > > > > Change since previous cancelled vote: > > "A

Re: [VOTE] Project governance wiki doc (take 2)

2020-06-22 Thread Eric Evans
+0 On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 10:12 AM Joshua McKenzie wrote: > > Link to doc: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Apache+Cassandra+Project+Governance > > Change since previous cancelled vote: > "A simple majority of this electorate becomes the low-watermark for votes > in

Re: [VOTE] Project governance wiki doc (take 2)

2020-06-22 Thread Aleksey Yeshchenko
+1 > On 20 Jun 2020, at 16:12, Joshua McKenzie wrote: > > Link to doc: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Apache+Cassandra+Project+Governance > > Change since previous cancelled vote: > "A simple majority of this electorate becomes the low-watermark for votes > in favour

Re: [VOTE] Project governance wiki doc (take 2)

2020-06-22 Thread Benedict Elliott Smith
Also, +1 On 22/06/2020, 11:23, "Benedict Elliott Smith" wrote: If you read the clauses literally there's no conflict - not all committers that +1 the change need to review the work. It just means that two committers have indicated they are comfortable with the patch being merged. One

Re: [VOTE] Project governance wiki doc (take 2)

2020-06-22 Thread Benedict Elliott Smith
If you read the clauses literally there's no conflict - not all committers that +1 the change need to review the work. It just means that two committers have indicated they are comfortable with the patch being merged. One of the +1s could be based on another pre-existing review and trust in

Re: [VOTE] Project governance wiki doc (take 2)

2020-06-22 Thread Sam Tunnicliffe
+1 > On 22 Jun 2020, at 08:54, Sylvain Lebresne wrote: > > +1 > -- > Sylvain > > > On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 9:48 AM Benjamin Lerer > wrote: > >> +1 >> >> On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 8:54 AM Marcus Eriksson >> wrote: >> >>> +1 >>> >>> >>> On 22 June 2020 at 08:37:39, Mick Semb Wever

Re: [VOTE] Project governance wiki doc (take 2)

2020-06-22 Thread Sylvain Lebresne
+1 -- Sylvain On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 9:48 AM Benjamin Lerer wrote: > +1 > > On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 8:54 AM Marcus Eriksson > wrote: > > > +1 > > > > > > On 22 June 2020 at 08:37:39, Mick Semb Wever (m...@apache.org) wrote: > > > > > - Vote will run through 6/24/20 > > > - pmc votes

Re: [VOTE] Project governance wiki doc (take 2)

2020-06-22 Thread Benjamin Lerer
+1 On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 8:54 AM Marcus Eriksson wrote: > +1 > > > On 22 June 2020 at 08:37:39, Mick Semb Wever (m...@apache.org) wrote: > > > - Vote will run through 6/24/20 > > - pmc votes considered binding > > - simple majority of binding participants passes the vote > > - committer and

Re: [VOTE] Project governance wiki doc (take 2)

2020-06-22 Thread Marcus Eriksson
+1 On 22 June 2020 at 08:37:39, Mick Semb Wever (m...@apache.org) wrote: > - Vote will run through 6/24/20 > - pmc votes considered binding > - simple majority of binding participants passes the vote > - committer and community votes considered advisory +1 (binding)

Re: [VOTE] Project governance wiki doc (take 2)

2020-06-22 Thread Mick Semb Wever
>- Vote will run through 6/24/20 >- pmc votes considered binding >- simple majority of binding participants passes the vote >- committer and community votes considered advisory +1 (binding) - To unsubscribe,

Re: [VOTE] Project governance wiki doc (take 2)

2020-06-21 Thread Joshua McKenzie
The way I've heard it articulated (and makes sense to me) is that a 2nd committer skimming a contribution to make sure everything looks reasonable should be sufficient. It's a touch more rigor than we do now (1 contrib + 1 committer) without slowing things down too much. If we can develop a

Re: [VOTE] Project governance wiki doc (take 2)

2020-06-21 Thread Nate McCall
+1 On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 3:12 AM Joshua McKenzie wrote: > Link to doc: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Apache+Cassandra+Project+Governance > > Change since previous cancelled vote: > "A simple majority of this electorate becomes the low-watermark for votes > in

Re: [VOTE] Project governance wiki doc (take 2)

2020-06-21 Thread Joseph Lynch
+1 (nb). Thank you Josh for advocating for these changes! I am curious about how Code Contribution Guideline #2 reading "Code modifications must have been reviewed by at least one other contributor" and Guideline #3 reading "Code modifications require two +1 committer votes (can be author +

Re: [VOTE] Project governance wiki doc (take 2)

2020-06-21 Thread Jon Haddad
+1 binding On Sat, Jun 20, 2020, 11:24 AM Jordan West wrote: > +1 (nb) > > On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 11:13 AM Jonathan Ellis wrote: > > > +1 > > > > On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 10:12 AM Joshua McKenzie > > wrote: > > > > > Link to doc: > > > > > > > > >

Re: [VOTE] Project governance wiki doc (take 2)

2020-06-20 Thread Jordan West
+1 (nb) On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 11:13 AM Jonathan Ellis wrote: > +1 > > On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 10:12 AM Joshua McKenzie > wrote: > > > Link to doc: > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Apache+Cassandra+Project+Governance > > > > Change since previous cancelled vote:

Re: [VOTE] Project governance wiki doc (take 2)

2020-06-20 Thread Jonathan Ellis
+1 On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 10:12 AM Joshua McKenzie wrote: > Link to doc: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Apache+Cassandra+Project+Governance > > Change since previous cancelled vote: > "A simple majority of this electorate becomes the low-watermark for votes > in

Re: [VOTE] Project governance wiki doc (take 2)

2020-06-20 Thread Yifan Cai
+1 nb From: Scott Andreas Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2020 11:00:15 AM To: dev@cassandra.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Project governance wiki doc (take 2) +1 nb > On Jun 20, 2020, at 9:37 AM, Joshua McKenzie wrote: > > +1 (binding / present

Re: [VOTE] Project governance wiki doc (take 2)

2020-06-20 Thread Scott Andreas
+1 nb > On Jun 20, 2020, at 9:37 AM, Joshua McKenzie wrote: > > +1 (binding / present / active) > > On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 12:23 PM Ekaterina Dimitrova > wrote: > >> +1(non-binding) >> >> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 at 11:38, Brandon Williams wrote: >> >>> +1 >>> >>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2020, 10:12

Re: [VOTE] Project governance wiki doc (take 2)

2020-06-20 Thread Joshua McKenzie
+1 (binding / present / active) On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 12:23 PM Ekaterina Dimitrova wrote: > +1(non-binding) > > On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 at 11:38, Brandon Williams wrote: > > > +1 > > > > On Sat, Jun 20, 2020, 10:12 AM Joshua McKenzie > > wrote: > > > > > Link to doc: > > > > > > > > >

Re: [VOTE] Project governance wiki doc (take 2)

2020-06-20 Thread Ekaterina Dimitrova
+1(non-binding) On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 at 11:38, Brandon Williams wrote: > +1 > > On Sat, Jun 20, 2020, 10:12 AM Joshua McKenzie > wrote: > > > Link to doc: > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Apache+Cassandra+Project+Governance > > > > Change since previous cancelled

Re: [VOTE] Project governance wiki doc (take 2)

2020-06-20 Thread Brandon Williams
+1 On Sat, Jun 20, 2020, 10:12 AM Joshua McKenzie wrote: > Link to doc: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Apache+Cassandra+Project+Governance > > Change since previous cancelled vote: > "A simple majority of this electorate becomes the low-watermark for votes > in favour

Re: [VOTE] Project governance wiki doc (take 2)

2020-06-20 Thread Jasonstack Zhao Yang
+1 (nb) On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 at 23:18, Jeff Jirsa wrote: > +1 (and present?) > > > > On Jun 20, 2020, at 8:12 AM, Joshua McKenzie > wrote: > > > > Link to doc: > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Apache+Cassandra+Project+Governance > > > > Change since previous

Re: [VOTE] Project governance wiki doc (take 2)

2020-06-20 Thread Jeff Jirsa
+1 (and present?) > On Jun 20, 2020, at 8:12 AM, Joshua McKenzie wrote: > > Link to doc: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Apache+Cassandra+Project+Governance > > Change since previous cancelled vote: > "A simple majority of this electorate becomes the low-watermark

[VOTE] Project governance wiki doc (take 2)

2020-06-20 Thread Joshua McKenzie
Link to doc: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Apache+Cassandra+Project+Governance Change since previous cancelled vote: "A simple majority of this electorate becomes the low-watermark for votes in favour necessary to pass a motion, with new PMC members added to the