Re: Proposal: fixed release schedule

2011-01-20 Thread Ryan King
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Eric Evans eev...@rackspace.com wrote: On Wed, 2011-01-19 at 10:29 -0600, Jonathan Ellis wrote: On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Eric Evans eev...@rackspace.com wrote: The discussion seems to be petering out and I wonder if that means folks are still trying

Re: Proposal: fixed release schedule

2011-01-20 Thread Clint Byrum
On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 10:19 -0800, Ryan King wrote: On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Eric Evans eev...@rackspace.com wrote: On Wed, 2011-01-19 at 10:29 -0600, Jonathan Ellis wrote: On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Eric Evans eev...@rackspace.com wrote: The discussion seems to be petering

Re: Proposal: fixed release schedule

2011-01-19 Thread Jonathan Ellis
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Eric Evans eev...@rackspace.com wrote: The discussion seems to be petering out and I wonder if that means folks are still trying to wrap their heads around everything, or if we have consensus. If we're in agreement on 4 months between releases, and

Re: Proposal: fixed release schedule

2011-01-18 Thread Eric Evans
On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 13:11 -0600, Eric Evans wrote: Everyone on chrome commits to trunk first. I think the important change we could make is to keep everyone closer to trunk. We spend a good deal of effort back-porting patches between major versions. I think we should make the major

Re: Proposal: fixed release schedule

2011-01-14 Thread Eric Evans
On Thu, 2011-01-13 at 14:32 -0800, Ryan King wrote: # Fixed schedule We should set a fixed schedule and stick to it. Anything features not ready at branch time won't make it and will be disabled in the stable branch. In general, I agree, if we want a cadence, we're going to have to exert

Proposal: fixed release schedule

2011-01-13 Thread Ryan King
I think many believe that shipping 0.7 took longer than it should. Rather than going into why that happened, I'd like to propose a better way to move forward that will hopefully allow us to ship on a more predictable schedule. This proposal is heavily influenced by the google chrome release

Re: Proposal: fixed release schedule

2011-01-13 Thread Ryan King
To be more clear, here's what I think is broken in the current release planning: 1. The dates are wildly unpredictable 2. People aren't allowed to work against trunk on features for multiple iterations (see #1072) 3. Stable branches diverge too much, causing duplicated effort. (we essentially

Re: Proposal: fixed release schedule

2011-01-13 Thread Jonathan Ellis
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Ryan King r...@twitter.com wrote: # Fixed schedule We should set a fixed schedule and stick to it. Anything features not ready at branch time won't make it and will be disabled in the stable branch. I like this idea, as long as we're willing to be flexible

Re: Proposal: fixed release schedule

2011-01-13 Thread Ryan King
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Jonathan Ellis jbel...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Ryan King r...@twitter.com wrote: # Fixed schedule We should set a fixed schedule and stick to it. Anything features not ready at branch time won't make it and will be disabled in the