Re: Committing `CASSANDRA-13701 Lower default num_tokens` and the dtest slowdown…

2020-09-01 Thread Jeremy Hanna
Thanks Adam.

Now that we have CASSANDRA-16079 created and work is proceeding, can we please 
commit CASSANDRA-13701?  There are many clusters out there that use the default 
of 256 num_tokens and migrating to something more sane is a lot of work.  It 
would also be very helpful for having reasonable defaults getting tested for 
the release.  It's been a bad default for a long, long time and we need to get 
this in before we do more testing for the release.

> On Aug 28, 2020, at 5:25 AM, Adam Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> After discussing with a few stakeholders it sounds like folks agree that
> optimizing dtest speed is a worthy endeavor. What is less clear are
> concrete things that should be done. Since a brainstorming session failed
> to materialize on CASSANDRA-13701, we thought it would make sense to start
> with an open analysis.
> 
> A ticket[1] has been created for analysis and further follow-up. We welcome
> any concrete ideas people already have in mind.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Adam Holmberg
> 
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-16079
> 
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 12:17 PM Mick Semb Wever  wrote:
> 
>> I believe the speed of our CI runs
>>> is of common interest. What do you think? Does this sound feasible? Who
>> is
>>> in?*
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I agree. I'm in. I have some ideas to add to the mix. Thanks Ekaterina.
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Adam Holmberg
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Re: [DISCUSS] Change style guide to recommend use of @Override

2020-09-01 Thread Berenguer Blasi
+1

On 2/9/20 5:09, Joshua McKenzie wrote:
> +1
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 6:26 PM Jordan West  wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 12:22 PM Benedict Elliott Smith <
>> bened...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 01/09/2020, 20:09, "Caleb Rackliffe" 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2020, 2:00 PM Jasonstack Zhao Yang <
>>> jasonstack.z...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > +1
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> > On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 02:45, Dinesh Joshi 
>> wrote:
>>> >
>>>
>>> > > +1
>>>
>>> > >
>>>
>>> > > > On Sep 1, 2020, at 11:27 AM, David Capwell >>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > > >
>>>
>>> > > > Currently our style guide recommends to avoid using @Override
>> and
>>> > updates
>>>
>>> > > > intellij's code style to exclude it by default; I would like to
>>> propose
>>>
>>> > > we
>>>
>>> > > > change this recommendation to use it and to update intellij's
>>> style to
>>>
>>> > > > include it by default.
>>>
>>> > > >
>>>
>>> > > > @Override is used by javac to enforce that a method is in fact
>>>
>>> > overriding
>>>
>>> > > > from an abstract class or an interface and if this stops being
>>> true
>>>
>>> > (such
>>>
>>> > > > as a refactor happens) then a compiler error is thrown; when we
>>> default
>>>
>>> > > to
>>>
>>> > > > excluding, it makes it harder to detect that a refactor catches
>>> all
>>>
>>> > > > implementations and can lead to subtle and hard to track down
>>> bugs.
>>>
>>> > > >
>>>
>>> > > > This proposal is for new code and would not be to go rewrite
>> all
>>> code
>>>
>>> > at
>>>
>>> > > > once, but would recommend new code adopt this style, and to
>> pull
>>> old
>>>
>>> > code
>>>
>>> > > > forward which is related to changes being made (similar to our
>>> stance
>>>
>>> > on
>>>
>>> > > > imports).
>>>
>>> > > >
>>>
>>> > > > If people are ok with this, I will file a JIRA, update the
>> docs,
>>> and
>>>
>>> > > > update intellij's formatting.
>>>
>>> > > >
>>>
>>> > > > Thanks for your time!
>>>
>>> > >
>>>
>>> > >
>>>
>>> > >
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Re: [DISCUSS] Change style guide to recommend use of @Override

2020-09-01 Thread Joshua McKenzie
+1

On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 6:26 PM Jordan West  wrote:

> +1
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 12:22 PM Benedict Elliott Smith <
> bened...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> >
> >
> > On 01/09/2020, 20:09, "Caleb Rackliffe" 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > +1
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 1, 2020, 2:00 PM Jasonstack Zhao Yang <
> > jasonstack.z...@gmail.com>
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > +1
> >
> > >
> >
> > > On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 02:45, Dinesh Joshi 
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > +1
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > On Sep 1, 2020, at 11:27 AM, David Capwell  >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > Currently our style guide recommends to avoid using @Override
> and
> >
> > > updates
> >
> > > > > intellij's code style to exclude it by default; I would like to
> > propose
> >
> > > > we
> >
> > > > > change this recommendation to use it and to update intellij's
> > style to
> >
> > > > > include it by default.
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > @Override is used by javac to enforce that a method is in fact
> >
> > > overriding
> >
> > > > > from an abstract class or an interface and if this stops being
> > true
> >
> > > (such
> >
> > > > > as a refactor happens) then a compiler error is thrown; when we
> > default
> >
> > > > to
> >
> > > > > excluding, it makes it harder to detect that a refactor catches
> > all
> >
> > > > > implementations and can lead to subtle and hard to track down
> > bugs.
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > This proposal is for new code and would not be to go rewrite
> all
> > code
> >
> > > at
> >
> > > > > once, but would recommend new code adopt this style, and to
> pull
> > old
> >
> > > code
> >
> > > > > forward which is related to changes being made (similar to our
> > stance
> >
> > > on
> >
> > > > > imports).
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > If people are ok with this, I will file a JIRA, update the
> docs,
> > and
> >
> > > > > update intellij's formatting.
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > Thanks for your time!
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
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Re: [DISCUSS] Change style guide to recommend use of @Override

2020-09-01 Thread Jordan West
+1

On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 12:22 PM Benedict Elliott Smith 
wrote:

> +1
>
>
>
> On 01/09/2020, 20:09, "Caleb Rackliffe"  wrote:
>
>
>
> +1
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2020, 2:00 PM Jasonstack Zhao Yang <
> jasonstack.z...@gmail.com>
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > +1
>
> >
>
> > On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 02:45, Dinesh Joshi  wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > +1
>
> > >
>
> > > > On Sep 1, 2020, at 11:27 AM, David Capwell 
> wrote:
>
> > > >
>
> > > > Currently our style guide recommends to avoid using @Override and
>
> > updates
>
> > > > intellij's code style to exclude it by default; I would like to
> propose
>
> > > we
>
> > > > change this recommendation to use it and to update intellij's
> style to
>
> > > > include it by default.
>
> > > >
>
> > > > @Override is used by javac to enforce that a method is in fact
>
> > overriding
>
> > > > from an abstract class or an interface and if this stops being
> true
>
> > (such
>
> > > > as a refactor happens) then a compiler error is thrown; when we
> default
>
> > > to
>
> > > > excluding, it makes it harder to detect that a refactor catches
> all
>
> > > > implementations and can lead to subtle and hard to track down
> bugs.
>
> > > >
>
> > > > This proposal is for new code and would not be to go rewrite all
> code
>
> > at
>
> > > > once, but would recommend new code adopt this style, and to pull
> old
>
> > code
>
> > > > forward which is related to changes being made (similar to our
> stance
>
> > on
>
> > > > imports).
>
> > > >
>
> > > > If people are ok with this, I will file a JIRA, update the docs,
> and
>
> > > > update intellij's formatting.
>
> > > >
>
> > > > Thanks for your time!
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Change style guide to recommend use of @Override

2020-09-01 Thread Benedict Elliott Smith
+1

On 01/09/2020, 20:09, "Caleb Rackliffe"  wrote:

+1

On Tue, Sep 1, 2020, 2:00 PM Jasonstack Zhao Yang 

wrote:

> +1
>
> On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 02:45, Dinesh Joshi  wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> > > On Sep 1, 2020, at 11:27 AM, David Capwell  wrote:
> > >
> > > Currently our style guide recommends to avoid using @Override and
> updates
> > > intellij's code style to exclude it by default; I would like to 
propose
> > we
> > > change this recommendation to use it and to update intellij's style to
> > > include it by default.
> > >
> > > @Override is used by javac to enforce that a method is in fact
> overriding
> > > from an abstract class or an interface and if this stops being true
> (such
> > > as a refactor happens) then a compiler error is thrown; when we 
default
> > to
> > > excluding, it makes it harder to detect that a refactor catches all
> > > implementations and can lead to subtle and hard to track down bugs.
> > >
> > > This proposal is for new code and would not be to go rewrite all code
> at
> > > once, but would recommend new code adopt this style, and to pull old
> code
> > > forward which is related to changes being made (similar to our stance
> on
> > > imports).
> > >
> > > If people are ok with this, I will file a JIRA, update the docs, and
> > > update intellij's formatting.
> > >
> > > Thanks for your time!
> >
> >
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Re: [DISCUSS] Change style guide to recommend use of @Override

2020-09-01 Thread Yifan Cai
+1


From: Caleb Rackliffe 
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2020 12:08:50 PM
To: dev@cassandra.apache.org 
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Change style guide to recommend use of @Override

+1

On Tue, Sep 1, 2020, 2:00 PM Jasonstack Zhao Yang 
wrote:

> +1
>
> On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 02:45, Dinesh Joshi  wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> > > On Sep 1, 2020, at 11:27 AM, David Capwell  wrote:
> > >
> > > Currently our style guide recommends to avoid using @Override and
> updates
> > > intellij's code style to exclude it by default; I would like to propose
> > we
> > > change this recommendation to use it and to update intellij's style to
> > > include it by default.
> > >
> > > @Override is used by javac to enforce that a method is in fact
> overriding
> > > from an abstract class or an interface and if this stops being true
> (such
> > > as a refactor happens) then a compiler error is thrown; when we default
> > to
> > > excluding, it makes it harder to detect that a refactor catches all
> > > implementations and can lead to subtle and hard to track down bugs.
> > >
> > > This proposal is for new code and would not be to go rewrite all code
> at
> > > once, but would recommend new code adopt this style, and to pull old
> code
> > > forward which is related to changes being made (similar to our stance
> on
> > > imports).
> > >
> > > If people are ok with this, I will file a JIRA, update the docs, and
> > > update intellij's formatting.
> > >
> > > Thanks for your time!
> >
> >
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Re: [DISCUSS] Change style guide to recommend use of @Override

2020-09-01 Thread Caleb Rackliffe
+1

On Tue, Sep 1, 2020, 2:00 PM Jasonstack Zhao Yang 
wrote:

> +1
>
> On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 02:45, Dinesh Joshi  wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> > > On Sep 1, 2020, at 11:27 AM, David Capwell  wrote:
> > >
> > > Currently our style guide recommends to avoid using @Override and
> updates
> > > intellij's code style to exclude it by default; I would like to propose
> > we
> > > change this recommendation to use it and to update intellij's style to
> > > include it by default.
> > >
> > > @Override is used by javac to enforce that a method is in fact
> overriding
> > > from an abstract class or an interface and if this stops being true
> (such
> > > as a refactor happens) then a compiler error is thrown; when we default
> > to
> > > excluding, it makes it harder to detect that a refactor catches all
> > > implementations and can lead to subtle and hard to track down bugs.
> > >
> > > This proposal is for new code and would not be to go rewrite all code
> at
> > > once, but would recommend new code adopt this style, and to pull old
> code
> > > forward which is related to changes being made (similar to our stance
> on
> > > imports).
> > >
> > > If people are ok with this, I will file a JIRA, update the docs, and
> > > update intellij's formatting.
> > >
> > > Thanks for your time!
> >
> >
> > -
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> >
> >
>


Re: [DISCUSS] Change style guide to recommend use of @Override

2020-09-01 Thread Jasonstack Zhao Yang
+1

On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 02:45, Dinesh Joshi  wrote:

> +1
>
> > On Sep 1, 2020, at 11:27 AM, David Capwell  wrote:
> >
> > Currently our style guide recommends to avoid using @Override and updates
> > intellij's code style to exclude it by default; I would like to propose
> we
> > change this recommendation to use it and to update intellij's style to
> > include it by default.
> >
> > @Override is used by javac to enforce that a method is in fact overriding
> > from an abstract class or an interface and if this stops being true (such
> > as a refactor happens) then a compiler error is thrown; when we default
> to
> > excluding, it makes it harder to detect that a refactor catches all
> > implementations and can lead to subtle and hard to track down bugs.
> >
> > This proposal is for new code and would not be to go rewrite all code at
> > once, but would recommend new code adopt this style, and to pull old code
> > forward which is related to changes being made (similar to our stance on
> > imports).
> >
> > If people are ok with this, I will file a JIRA, update the docs, and
> > update intellij's formatting.
> >
> > Thanks for your time!
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Change style guide to recommend use of @Override

2020-09-01 Thread Dinesh Joshi
+1

> On Sep 1, 2020, at 11:27 AM, David Capwell  wrote:
> 
> Currently our style guide recommends to avoid using @Override and updates
> intellij's code style to exclude it by default; I would like to propose we
> change this recommendation to use it and to update intellij's style to
> include it by default.
> 
> @Override is used by javac to enforce that a method is in fact overriding
> from an abstract class or an interface and if this stops being true (such
> as a refactor happens) then a compiler error is thrown; when we default to
> excluding, it makes it harder to detect that a refactor catches all
> implementations and can lead to subtle and hard to track down bugs.
> 
> This proposal is for new code and would not be to go rewrite all code at
> once, but would recommend new code adopt this style, and to pull old code
> forward which is related to changes being made (similar to our stance on
> imports).
> 
> If people are ok with this, I will file a JIRA, update the docs, and
> update intellij's formatting.
> 
> Thanks for your time!


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[DISCUSS] Change style guide to recommend use of @Override

2020-09-01 Thread David Capwell
Currently our style guide recommends to avoid using @Override and updates
intellij's code style to exclude it by default; I would like to propose we
change this recommendation to use it and to update intellij's style to
include it by default.

@Override is used by javac to enforce that a method is in fact overriding
from an abstract class or an interface and if this stops being true (such
as a refactor happens) then a compiler error is thrown; when we default to
excluding, it makes it harder to detect that a refactor catches all
implementations and can lead to subtle and hard to track down bugs.

This proposal is for new code and would not be to go rewrite all code at
once, but would recommend new code adopt this style, and to pull old code
forward which is related to changes being made (similar to our stance on
imports).

If people are ok with this, I will file a JIRA, update the docs, and
update intellij's formatting.

Thanks for your time!


Re: cassandra.logdir

2020-09-01 Thread Joshua McKenzie
Go for it!

On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 10:23 PM Cyril Scetbon 
wrote:

> Hey guys,
>
> Experimenting with Cassandra 4.0 I’m seeing that when CASSANDRA_LOG_DIR is
> set and ${cassandra.logdir} is used in logback.xml nodetool doesn’t use the
> env variable. It’s different for cassandra for instance
> https://github.com/apache/cassandra/blob/324267b3c0676ad31bd4f2fac0e2e673a9257a37/bin/cassandra#L186
> <
> https://github.com/apache/cassandra/blob/324267b3c0676ad31bd4f2fac0e2e673a9257a37/bin/cassandra#L186>.
> I feel like it should be added to
> https://github.com/apache/cassandra/blob/06209037ea56b5a2a49615a99f1542d6ea1b2947/bin/nodetool
> <
> https://github.com/apache/cassandra/blob/06209037ea56b5a2a49615a99f1542d6ea1b2947/bin/nodetool>,
> any objection to creating a ticket to do it ?
>
> Thanks
> —
> Cyril
>
>


Re: Problem in updating schema in Cassandra 3.11.4

2020-09-01 Thread Aleksey Yeshchenko
I’m reasonably certain that this is one of the things that I fixed in 4.0. It’d 
be too invasive a change for 3.11, unfortunately.

> On 1 Sep 2020, at 16:52, Benjamin Lerer  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Could you precise what you mean by " will only validate the schema while
> changing in memory, and will not validate before flush to disk.". It is
> unclear to me of which validation you are talking about.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 1:44 PM Weiliang Zhang <394693...@qq.com> wrote:
> 
>> Does anyone has any ideas?
>> 
>> On 2020/08/31 10:07:30, weiliang zhang<394693...@qq.com> wrote:
>>> Hi everyone, I found that cassandra will first flush new schema to disk
>> and then change in memory while updating schema in Cassandra3.11.4
>> (SchemaKeyspace.java:1378) .
>>> But it seems that cassandra will only validate the schema while changing
>> in memory, and will not validate before flush to disk.
>>> I don't know why not validate before flushing to disk ? Some request
>> will succeed in updating schema to disk and fail to update schema in
>> memory, which will make the schema in disk and schema in memory are not
>> consistent.
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CVE-2020-13946 Apache Cassandra RMI Rebind Vulnerability

2020-09-01 Thread Sam Tunnicliffe
CVE-2020-13946 Apache Cassandra RMI Rebind Vulnerability

Versions Affected:
All versions prior to: 2.1.22, 2.2.18, 3.0.22, 3.11.8 and 4.0-beta2

Description:
It is possible for a local attacker without access to the Apache Cassandra 
process or configuration files to manipulate the RMI registry to perform a 
man-in-the-middle attack and capture user names and passwords used to access 
the JMX interface. The attacker can then use these credentials to access the 
JMX interface and perform unauthorised operations.
Users should also be aware of CVE-2019-2684, a JRE vulnerability that enables 
this issue to be exploited remotely.

Mitigation:
2.1.x users should upgrade to 2.1.22
2.2.x users should upgrade to 2.2.18
3.0.x users should upgrade to 3.0.22
3.11.x users should upgrade to 3.11.8
4.0-beta1 users should upgrade to 4.0-beta2




Re: Problem in updating schema in Cassandra 3.11.4

2020-09-01 Thread Weiliang Zhang
Does anyone has any ideas?

On 2020/08/31 10:07:30, weiliang zhang<394693...@qq.com> wrote: 
> Hi everyone, I found that cassandra will first flush new schema to disk and 
> then change in memory while updating schema in Cassandra3.11.4 
> (SchemaKeyspace.java:1378) . 
> But it seems that cassandra will only validate the schema while changing in 
> memory, and will not validate before flush to disk.
> I don't know why not validate before flushing to disk ? Some request will 
> succeed in updating schema to disk and fail to update schema in memory, which 
> will make the schema in disk and schema in memory are not consistent.  
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Re: [DISCUSS] CEP-7 Storage Attached Index

2020-09-01 Thread Jasonstack Zhao Yang
Thank you, Charles and Patrick

On Tue, 1 Sep 2020 at 04:56, Charles Cao  wrote:

> Thank you, Patrick!
>
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 12:59 PM Patrick McFadin 
> wrote:
> >
> > I just moved it to 8AM for this meeting to better accommodate APAC.
> Please
> > see the update here:
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/2020-08-01+Apache+Cassandra+Contributor+Meeting
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 10:04 AM Charles Cao 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Patrick,
> > >
> > > 11AM PST is a bad time for the people in the APAC timezone. Can we
> > > move it to 7 or 8AM PST in the morning to accommodate their needs ?
> > >
> > > ~Charles
> > >
> > > On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 4:37 PM Patrick McFadin 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Meeting scheduled.
> > > >
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/2020-08-01+Apache+Cassandra+Contributor+Meeting
> > > >
> > > > Tuesday September 1st, 11AM PST. I added a basic bullet for the
> agenda
> > > but
> > > > if there is more, edit away.
> > > >
> > > > Patrick
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 11:31 AM Jasonstack Zhao Yang <
> > > > jasonstack.z...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > +1
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 at 04:52, Ekaterina Dimitrova <
> > > e.dimitr...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > +1
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 at 16:48, Caleb Rackliffe <
> > > calebrackli...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > +1
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 26, 2020, 3:45 PM Patrick McFadin <
> pmcfa...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This is related to the discussion Jordan and I had about the
> > > > > > contributor
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Zoom call. Instead of open mic for any issue, call it based
> on a
> > > > > > > discussion
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > thread or threads for higher bandwidth discussion.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I would be happy to schedule on for next week to specifically
> > > discuss
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > CEP-7. I can attach the recorded call to the CEP after.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > +1 or -1?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Patrick
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 7:03 AM Joshua McKenzie <
> > > > > jmcken...@apache.org>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Does community plan to open another discussion or CEP on
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > modularization?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > We probably should have a discussion on the ML or monthly
> > > contrib
> > > > > > call
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > about it first to see how aligned the interested
> contributors
> > > are.
> > > > > > > Could
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > do
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > that through CEP as well but CEP's (at least thus far sans
> k8s
> > > > > > > operator)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > tend to start with a strong, deeply thought out point of
> view
> > > being
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > expressed.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 3:26 AM Jasonstack Zhao Yang <
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > jasonstack.z...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>> SASI's performance, specifically the search in the B+
> > > tree
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > component,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>> depends a lot on the component file's header being
> > > available
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>> pagecache. SASI benefits from (needs) nodes with
> lots of
> > > RAM.
> > > > > > Is
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > SAI
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > bound
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>> to this same or similar limitation?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > SAI also benefits from larger memory because SAI puts
> block
> > > info
> > > > > on
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > heap
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > for searching on-disk components and having cross-index
> > > files on
> > > > > > page
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > cache
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > improves read performance of different indexes on the
> same
> > > table.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>> Flushing of SASI can be CPU+IO intensive, to the
> point of
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > saturation,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>> pauses, and crashes on the node. SSDs are a must,
> along
> > > with
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > bit
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >>> tuning, just to avoid bringing down your cluster.
> Beyond
> > > >