Re: qdox block broken (was: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/legal LICENSE.quartz)

2004-03-01 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Antonio, It is fixed in the CVS. Confirmed - thanks very much! If you update jars, it would be good to test related stuff before and after your changes, to make sure nothing weird happens. -Bertrand

Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-01 Thread Ugo Cei
Antonio Gallardo wrote: Do you agree with JSDK 1.4 as the lower Java version supported in Cocoon 2.2? Here is my +1 -0.5 Even though 1.4 is available for most platforms, and I've been using it exclusively for quite a long time, I still think there are many environments where people are forced

[OT] Article in Software Development magazine: Here Be Professionals

2004-03-01 Thread Arje Cahn
It has been nice reading this month's SDMagazine. On page 28, with *big* letters, it states: HERE BE PROFESSIONALS. Below it, a three page article on Cocoon with a 4 out of 5 star rating. A big thank you from the author, Rick Wayne, to the Cocoon community. Wow! Arjé Hippo

Accepting new blocks (was:: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/blocks/workflow/java/org/apache/lenya/xml DocumentHelper.java )

2004-03-01 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Dimanche, 29 fév 2004, à 18:53 Europe/Zurich, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : As far as I know (from my weak memory :) ) there hasn't been a vote at Cocoon about accepting this block... Sorry, last I told the lenya-dev guys that IMO a vote was not needed to create a new block in Cocoon (but I

Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-01 Thread David Crossley
Ugo Cei wrote: Antonio Gallardo wrote: Do you agree with JSDK 1.4 as the lower Java version supported in Cocoon 2.2? Here is my +1 -0.5 Even though 1.4 is available for most platforms, and I've been using it exclusively for quite a long time, I still think there are many

Advise needed - how to handle externally defined session ID authentication (2.1.4)

2004-03-01 Thread Andrei Lunjov
Hi, I am new to cocoon internals and I really need some starting points at least - please help. I am making a kind of web-service(not standard) that works as a part of corporate portal - provides dynamic content. Unfortunately most of the things are out of my control - I can't get normal

RE: [OT] Article in Software Development magazine: Here Be Professionals

2004-03-01 Thread Matthew Langham
It has been nice reading this month's SDMagazine. On page 28, with *big* letters, it states: HERE BE PROFESSIONALS. Below it, a three page article on Cocoon with a 4 out of 5 star rating. A big thank you from the author, Rick Wayne, to the Cocoon community. Wow! The article is online too:

RE: workflow block commited

2004-03-01 Thread Arje Cahn
Gregor, thanks! Arje the lenya community has developed a lightweight workflow that we thought would make more sense as a cocoon block, especially given that other cms built on cocoon have shown interest in using it (hi arje :). i split out the generic part and made it into a

RE: Accepting new blocks (was:: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/blocks/workflow/java/org/apache/lenya/xml DocumentHelper.java )

2004-03-01 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Seeing how hard it is to retrofit tests and docs to existing blocks, maybe we should require the following for any new non-scratchpad block: -samples -automated tests -documentation (in the block itself, I don't think our docs structure makes it easy to

Re: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/blocks/workflow/java/org/apache/lenya/xml DocumentHelper.java

2004-03-01 Thread Gregor J. Rothfuss
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: As far as I know (from my weak memory :) ) there hasn't been a vote at Cocoon about accepting this block. you are right, there wasnt. in the thread on lenya-dev it was opined that this would not be necessary. So, can you please enlighten us (or only me?) about the use of

Re: Accepting new blocks

2004-03-01 Thread Jorg Heymans
You're right, I'm also guilty of creating a few blocks without formally asking. Seeing how hard it is to retrofit tests and docs to existing blocks, maybe we should require the following for any new non-scratchpad block: -samples -automated tests -documentation (in the block itself, I don't

RE: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/blocks/workflow/java/org/apache/lenya/xml DocumentHelper.java

2004-03-01 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Thanks for the answer, Gregor. Some comments inline: Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote: when we started this functionality, there was no workflow engine around that specifically targeted the sane and common 80% of the requirements. so we wrote our own :) recently, some cocooners showed

RE: workflow block commited

2004-03-01 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
-Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas Hartmann Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 10:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: workflow block commited Currently there isn't really someone against this donation here at Cocoon.

RE: Accepting new blocks

2004-03-01 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Jorg Heymans wrote: I agree with this for core blocks. Will there be a different central repository then for the more exotic blocks that don't offer core functionality? Your community rule might hold people back from creating blocks for the fun of it. Example: i've been thinking about

RE: workflow block commited

2004-03-01 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Andreas Hartmann wrote: Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote: hi, the lenya community has developed a lightweight workflow that we thought would make more sense as a cocoon block, especially given that other cms built on cocoon have shown interest in using it (hi arje :). i split out

Re: workflow block commited

2004-03-01 Thread Andreas Hartmann
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: [...] BTW, I think we should remove the o.a.l.xml sources and instead add a lenya.jar library including this code. You mean adding a lenya.jar to Cocoon? If so, I'm -1 on this as I don't want circular dependencies! Yes, this sounds reasonable. So we have to remove the

Re: workflow block commited

2004-03-01 Thread Andreas Hartmann
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: [...] Currently there isn't really someone against this donation here at Cocoon. Although the people that support it are very silent... Anyways, as I just said, please ask the next time on the Cocoon list before you submit a new block. Thanks. OK. If this block stays at

Re: Accepting new blocks

2004-03-01 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Lundi, 1 mars 2004, à 10:43 Europe/Zurich, Jorg Heymans a écrit : ...There was a discussion a few months ago about the need for a blocks.cocoondev.org alike site, maybe this is relevant again now? By default you would allow all blocks into an incubation phase and do a vote on the ones to

RE: Accepting new blocks

2004-03-01 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: I don't think it would be very hard to make the blocks system more configurable, so that external blocks would need only an XML descriptor to be integrated at compile-time. But someone has to do it. I always thought about simply adding all blocks that are in

Re: Accepting new blocks

2004-03-01 Thread Andreas Hartmann
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: [...] Seeing how hard it is to retrofit tests and docs to existing blocks, maybe we should require the following for any new non-scratchpad block: -samples -automated tests -documentation (in the block itself, I don't think our docs structure makes it easy to

Text-to-speech (Re: Accepting new blocks)

2004-03-01 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
Jorg Heymans wrote: Example: i've been thinking about creating a text-to-speech block just for the learning experience. Unlikely that more than 3 committers need this, so where will it end up if i want to donate it? I am no committer - but I might be interested in such a thing ;-) Cheers,

Re: Accepting new blocks

2004-03-01 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Lundi, 1 mars 2004, à 11:13 Europe/Zurich, Andreas Hartmann a écrit : Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: [...] Seeing how hard it is to retrofit tests and docs to existing blocks, maybe we should require the following for any new non-scratchpad block: -samples -automated tests -documentation (in

Re: Accepting new blocks

2004-03-01 Thread Upayavira
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: I don't think it would be very hard to make the blocks system more configurable, so that external blocks would need only an XML descriptor to be integrated at compile-time. But someone has to do it. I always thought about simply

Re: [Avalon][PMC] Release!

2004-03-01 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Great! :-DD Best Regards, Antonio Gallardo Leo Sutic dijo: The following Avalon packages have been released: avalon-fortress-container-1.1 avalon-fortress-tools-1.1 excalibur-component-1.2 excalibur-event-1.1 excalibur-logger-1.1 excalibur-sourceresolve-1.1

Re: Accepting new blocks

2004-03-01 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Hi: I think it is a good idea to talk about the protocol to add new blocks, but currently there is no an avalanche or an invasion of new blocks. :-( As suggested the solution can be that every block can have his own build.xml and just integrate it by extending a main build.xml. I am not sure if

[OT] License changed to ASL

2004-03-01 Thread Simon Mieth
Ok, it might be stupid to announce a GPL-software which uses Apache-software in a apache-mailinglist. It is changed now. Best Regards, Simon http://www.mieth-xml.de/openproject/cligui

patch to Enhance CIncludeTrasnformer to handle encoding of parameters

2004-03-01 Thread Marco Dubbeld
Hi cocoon developers, 1st - Thank you for making cocoon. Cocoon is good stuff, but I guess you know that already. ;) 2nd - I've been using cocoon in a little project for a search page (returns multilingual results), however found some limitation while using the CInclude transformer. I've posted a

Re: Accepting new blocks

2004-03-01 Thread Torsten Curdt
Each block is more or a less a separate (sub) project. So there definitly needs to be a community around it before it should end up in our CVS. We failed at this point in the past. Take a look at some blocks we have, there are quiet a lot that don't have a community. So we should start considering

Re: [OT] Article in Software Development magazine: Here Be Professionals

2004-03-01 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Arje Cahn wrote: It has been nice reading this month's SDMagazine. On page 28, with *big* letters, it states: HERE BE PROFESSIONALS. Below it, a three page article on Cocoon with a 4 out of 5 star rating. A big thank you from the author, Rick Wayne, to the Cocoon community. Wow! Nice. Just one

Re: Accepting new blocks

2004-03-01 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Jorg Heymans wrote: You're right, I'm also guilty of creating a few blocks without formally asking. Seeing how hard it is to retrofit tests and docs to existing blocks, maybe we should require the following for any new non-scratchpad block: -samples -automated tests -documentation (in the

Re: [RT] Connecting databases with Cocoon

2004-03-01 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom
Reinhard Poetz wrote: From: Daniel Fagerstrom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reinhard Poetz wrote: After using Cocoon for years I still think we are not very clear in telling our users what is the right tool for their needs. Of course this depends on their use cases and their skills. I see three

Re: Licenses of Libraries [was Re: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/blocks/html/lib jtidy-04aug2000r7-dev.jar.license]

2004-03-01 Thread Steven Noels
On 29 Feb 2004, at 14:55, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Yes :) - No of course not, we can change everything back again. It's the old problem (this is no offense against you, Vadim), only a few people are interested in this topic. It's been days since Dims informed us that we don't have all licenses!

RE: [OT] Article in Software Development magazine: Here Be Professionals

2004-03-01 Thread Arje Cahn
Just one of curiosity. What is the missing star for? I'm afraid it's the following part: ...it's greatest strength is also it's greatest drawback: the expressive power of XSL. That functional programming language comes easily to neither procedurally trained programmers ('What do you mean, I

Re: [RT] Cocoon Input Model

2004-03-01 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le Mercredi, 25 fév 2004, à 16:49 Europe/Zurich, Daniel Fagerstrom a écrit : snip-plenty-of-good-stuff/ ...But in many cases using SAX based XML as in pipelines is not enough we need a data structure i.e. DOM. This leads to flowscript components that reads some

Re: [RT] Cocoon Input Model

2004-03-01 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom
Ralph Goers wrote: It may not matter much, but I'd prefer to see examples of this without flow. With flow you could just degenerate into a map:call for input and a map:call for output, or perhaps a map:call that does both? Take a look at my answer to Bertrands post. In that example you coul

Re: [RT] Cocoon Input Model

2004-03-01 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Lundi, 1 mars 2004, à 15:48 Europe/Zurich, Daniel Fagerstrom a écrit : ...I meant something a little bit more explicit: map:generate type=request/ map:transform src=prepare-query-for-user-preferences/ map:transform type=sql/ map:store type=xml dest=xmodule:request-attr:foo/ map:call

Re: [RT] Cocoon Input Model

2004-03-01 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom
Steven Noels wrote: On 25 Feb 2004, at 22:53, Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: CForms should use typed DOM as form model --- I also believe that making CForms use typed XML as data storage is important. This obviously require some changes, among other things the

Re: [RT] Connecting databases with Cocoon

2004-03-01 Thread Alan
* Daniel Fagerstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-01 13:37]: Reinhard Poetz wrote: From: Daniel Fagerstrom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reinhard Poetz wrote: I think it is a fairly complete picture. So we need: * SQL queries (inbeded in XML) - XML, this is handled by ESQL and

RE: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/blocks/eventcache/java/org/apache/ cocoon/caching/impl StoreEventRegistryImpl.java DefaultEventRegistryImpl. java

2004-03-01 Thread Hunsberger, Peter
Geoff Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] WRITES: snip/ Two questions. 1. Is eventcache stable enough for me to use or will it be undergoing radical changes? That's a good question. It's still marked alpha/stable/whatever but that is more by inaction than purposeful decision (at least on my

Re: [RT] Cocoon Input Model

2004-03-01 Thread Alan
* Daniel Fagerstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-01 14:54]: Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le Mercredi, 25 f?v 2004, ? 16:49 Europe/Zurich, Daniel Fagerstrom a ?crit : snip-plenty-of-good-stuff/ ...But in many cases using SAX based XML as in pipelines is not enough we need a data structure

Re: [RT] Cocoon Input Model

2004-03-01 Thread Alan
* Ralph Goers [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-02-25 18:18]: Just trying to understand from a practical point of view, does this mean something like map:generate type=request/ map:transform src=prepare-query-for-user-preferences/ map:transform type=sql/ map:call function=myFlow() dom-input=domIn/

RE: [RT] Cocoon Input Model

2004-03-01 Thread Hunsberger, Peter
Steve Krulewitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agree that more sophisticated input handing would make general web applications much easier to write in Cocoon... here are some more random thoughts on the subject: Input can come from many sources: - http query string - http post stream

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 27165] - Chaperon wiki syntax: italic inside bullet point closes bullet point

2004-03-01 Thread bugzilla
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RE: [RT] Cocoon Input Model

2004-03-01 Thread Ralph Goers
I agree with this. As I said before, you can create an action (for example, InputPipelineAction) which calls a pipeline to process and validate the input. The end result could be something like what the FormValidatorAction does, except the InputPiplelineAction would let you do whatever you want

Re: [RT] Cocoon Input Model

2004-03-01 Thread Alan
* Hunsberger, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-01 16:17]: Steve Krulewitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1) in the flowscript the varible output has the complete contents of this pipeline in it, it can be folded back into any handling you want via flowscript variable passing (eg, as an XSLT

RE: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-01 Thread Hunsberger, Peter
Antonio Gallardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] asks: Do you agree with JSDK 1.4 as the lower Java version supported in Cocoon 2.2? Yes, please: +1

RE: workflow block commited

2004-03-01 Thread Hunsberger, Peter
Carsten Ziegeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Currently there isn't really someone against this donation here at Cocoon. Although the people that support it are very silent... Anyways, as I just said, please ask the next time on the Cocoon list before you submit a new block. Thanks. We'd

Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-01 Thread Alan
* Hunsberger, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-01 16:57]: Antonio Gallardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] asks: Do you agree with JSDK 1.4 as the lower Java version supported in Cocoon 2.2? Yes, please: +1 Does this mean we can use 1.4 regex in the sitemap? -- Alan / [EMAIL PROTECTED] /

Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-01 Thread Unico Hommes
David Crossley wrote: Ugo Cei wrote: Antonio Gallardo wrote: Do you agree with JSDK 1.4 as the lower Java version supported in Cocoon 2.2? Here is my +1 -0.5 Even though 1.4 is available for most platforms, and I've been using it exclusively for quite a long time, I still think

xerces 2.6.2 breaks nekopull?

2004-03-01 Thread Gregor J. Rothfuss
hi andy it seems that xerces 2.6.2 removed ObjectFactory which broke nekopull if i understand the exception correctly. http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/xml-xerces/java/src/org/apache/xerces/util/Attic/ObjectFactory.java i have posted a bug report with a stack trace at

Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-01 Thread Ugo Cei
Unico Hommes wrote: I think that as a software product that is known for its innovative nature it is *very* important in the interest of Cocoon to refuse being impaired by the immobility of bureaucracratic organisations. We are having a small crisis on our hands ATM regarding our persistent

Re: [RT] Cocoon Input Model

2004-03-01 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Hunsberger, Peter wrote: So, bottom line, I don't think Cocoon needs any new sitemap constructs to do what is being discussed, unless what is needed is a way to do this without flow? However, trying to do this without flow seems to me to mean going back to regular actions, so I can't see any

RE: workflow block commited

2004-03-01 Thread Arje Cahn
Currently there isn't really someone against this donation here at Cocoon. Although the people that support it are very silent... Anyways, as I just said, please ask the next time on the Cocoon list before you submit a new block. Thanks. We'd be interested in taking a look at it.

Re: [RT] Cocoon Input Model

2004-03-01 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Alan wrote: * Hunsberger, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-01 16:17]: Steve Krulewitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1) in the flowscript the varible output has the complete contents of this pipeline in it, it can be folded back into any handling you want via flowscript variable passing (eg, as an

Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-01 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Ugo Cei wrote: Unico Hommes wrote: I think that as a software product that is known for its innovative nature it is *very* important in the interest of Cocoon to refuse being impaired by the immobility of bureaucracratic organisations. We are having a small crisis on our hands ATM regarding

Re: workflow block commited

2004-03-01 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
Arje Cahn wrote: I'm interested in a workflow block as well. We currently have experience using OpenSymphony Workflow and would like to share this on the Cocoon list. Please do. I'm really interested in that, I don't quite get what all this workflow fuss is about, so it would be good to know

Re: [RT] Cocoon Input Model

2004-03-01 Thread Bruno Dumon
On Mon, 2004-03-01 at 16:09, Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: Steven Noels wrote: On 25 Feb 2004, at 22:53, Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: CForms should use typed DOM as form model --- I also believe that making CForms use typed XML as data storage is

RE: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-01 Thread Hunsberger, Peter
Ugo Cei [EMAIL PROTECTED] asks: Unico Hommes wrote: I think that as a software product that is known for its innovative nature it is *very* important in the interest of Cocoon to refuse being impaired by the immobility of bureaucracratic organisations. We are having a small crisis

RE: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-01 Thread Hunsberger, Peter
Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] write: Ugo Cei wrote: Unico Hommes wrote: I think that as a software product that is known for its innovative nature it is *very* important in the interest of Cocoon to refuse being impaired by the immobility of bureaucracratic organisations.

Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-01 Thread Bruno Dumon
On Mon, 2004-03-01 at 04:41, Antonio Gallardo wrote: Hi: Many was talked about this topic. I think it not need a large explanation: The idea is to set JSDK 1.4 as the minimum supported JDK supported for the next major release 2.2 of Cocoon. Currently we are supporting also 1.3 but seems

Re: [RT] Cocoon Input Model

2004-03-01 Thread Alan
* Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-01 18:32]: Alan wrote: * Hunsberger, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-01 16:17]: So, bottom line, I don't think Cocoon needs any new sitemap constructs to do what is being discussed, unless what is needed is a way to do this without flow?

Re: Momento and Cocoon

2004-03-01 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 26.02.2004 22:04, Alan wrote: I would guess that Momento mainly would be accessed through the document function in XSLT and XQuery. Saxon use JAXP 1.1 as external API to the transformerand the URLs in the document functions are resolved by using an implementation of

RE: [RT] Cocoon Input Model

2004-03-01 Thread Hunsberger, Peter
Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: snip/ Look, nobody prevents you from doing this already today: StreamGenerator - ValidateTransformer - StoreTransformer - but then what happens if the validation is not complete? how to you manage that? what is the logic? As I said, the logic of a

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 27147] - Woody field styling: selection lists with optgroups

2004-03-01 Thread bugzilla
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Re: Momento and Cocoon

2004-03-01 Thread Alan
* Joerg Heinicke [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-01 19:59]: On 26.02.2004 22:04, Alan wrote: I would guess that Momento mainly would be accessed through the document function in XSLT and XQuery. Saxon use JAXP 1.1 as external API to the transformerand the URLs in the document functions are

Re: Problem: Building Cocoon with ant under Eclipse 3.0M7

2004-03-01 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 01.03.2004 00:24, Antonio Gallardo wrote: I was hit by that a few days ago on a different project, and it's an endorsed problem, due to a wrong Xerces version. Now, don't ask me how to fix that in eclipse, but if you can make ant use Cocoon's xerces you should be fine. This is a very weird

Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-01 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 01.03.2004 19:37, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: I think that as a software product that is known for its innovative nature it is *very* important in the interest of Cocoon to refuse being impaired by the immobility of bureaucracratic organisations. We are having a small crisis on our hands ATM

Re: Accepting new blocks

2004-03-01 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 01.03.2004 12:28, Torsten Curdt wrote: 1) We more or less quietly dropped the scratchpad concept. Everyone prefers to create a block because it's more pluggable. Maybe we should emphasize the scratchpad's existence a bit more again? ...or maybe have a block-scratchpad area instead of

RE: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-01 Thread Leo Sutic
From: Joerg Heinicke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] But if someone provides a really useful 1.4 thing like the mentioned NIO-based implementation of the persistent store I'm for 1.4 of course. I'm more of a user than a developer of Cocoon, but I'd say that if someone can provide a reasonable

Gump (was: Licenses of Libraries)

2004-03-01 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 01.03.2004 07:02, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: What about just adding an element for licence location to jars.xml? e.g., Gump descriptors now contain license information and gump is checking it for you. I think we should use that. I think gump would be a cool tool if we would use it correctly

Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-01 Thread Ugo Cei
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Ugo Cei wrote: Since we don't have a NIO-based implementation of the persistent store, yet, why upgrade now? When we have it, I'll be more than willing to vote +1. Ugo, this is chicken-egg problem: nobody is going to implement something on 1.4-only API if they

Re: Momento and Cocoon

2004-03-01 Thread Alan
* Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-01 20:36]: * Joerg Heinicke [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-01 19:59]: On 26.02.2004 22:04, Alan wrote: I would guess that Momento mainly would be accessed through the document function in XSLT and XQuery. Saxon use JAXP 1.1 as external API to the

Re: Momento and Cocoon

2004-03-01 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 01.03.2004 23:36, Alan wrote: I would guess that Momento mainly would be accessed through the document function in XSLT and XQuery. Saxon use JAXP 1.1 as external API to the transformerand the URLs in the document functions are resolved by using an implementation of

Re: Momento and Cocoon

2004-03-01 Thread Alan
* Joerg Heinicke [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-01 22:48]: On 01.03.2004 23:36, Alan wrote: I would guess that Momento mainly would be accessed through the document function in XSLT and XQuery. Saxon use JAXP 1.1 as external API to the transformerand the URLs in the document functions are

Re: whitespace cleanup and efficiency drive

2004-03-01 Thread David Crossley
David Crossley wrote: Joerg Heinicke wrote: Joerg Heinicke wrote: I might be wrong but today I had the feeling that Eclipse just ignores the default -kkv set in Eclipse itself and adds every file with unknown file ending as binary. You maybe have to add your file endings at

Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-01 Thread Geoff Howard
Ugo Cei wrote: Antonio Gallardo wrote: Do you agree with JSDK 1.4 as the lower Java version supported in Cocoon 2.2? Here is my +1 -0.5 Even though 1.4 is available for most platforms, and I've been using it exclusively for quite a long time, I still think there are many environments

Re: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/blocks/eventcache/java/org/apache/ cocoon/caching/impl StoreEventRegistryImpl.java DefaultEventRegistryImpl. java

2004-03-01 Thread Geoff Howard
Hunsberger, Peter wrote: Geoff Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] WRITES: snip/ Two questions. 1. Is eventcache stable enough for me to use or will it be undergoing radical changes? That's a good question. It's still marked alpha/stable/whatever but that is more by inaction than

Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-01 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Alan dijo: * Hunsberger, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-01 16:57]: Antonio Gallardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] asks: Do you agree with JSDK 1.4 as the lower Java version supported in Cocoon 2.2? Yes, please: +1 Does this mean we can use 1.4 regex in the sitemap? Hi Alan: Yes. This is the

Re: Momento and Cocoon

2004-03-01 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Joerg Heinicke wrote: On 26.02.2004 22:04, Alan wrote: I would guess that Momento mainly would be accessed through the document function in XSLT and XQuery. Saxon use JAXP 1.1 as external API to the transformerand the URLs in the document functions are resolved by using an implementation of

Re: Gump

2004-03-01 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Joerg Heinicke wrote: On 01.03.2004 07:02, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: What about just adding an element for licence location to jars.xml? e.g., Gump descriptors now contain license information and gump is checking it for you. I think we should use that. I think gump would be a cool tool if

Re: [VOTE] - Entry level JSDK 1.4 in Cocoon 2.2

2004-03-01 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Ugo Cei wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Ugo Cei wrote: Since we don't have a NIO-based implementation of the persistent store, yet, why upgrade now? When we have it, I'll be more than willing to vote +1. Ugo, this is chicken-egg problem: nobody is going to implement something on 1.4-only

Re: Momento and Cocoon

2004-03-01 Thread Alan
* Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-02 03:01]: Joerg Heinicke wrote: On 26.02.2004 22:04, Alan wrote: I would guess that Momento mainly would be accessed through the document function in XSLT and XQuery. Saxon use JAXP 1.1 as external API to the transformerand the URLs in the

[CForms] - Error in binding samples

2004-03-01 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Hi: Try to send any of these forms: http://localhost:/samples/woody/form2xml.flow http://localhost:/samples/woody/form2bean.flow They don't show any error, but does not finish the processing (read the instructions of the sample). I think there is still a bug. Best Regards, Antonio

JCS Based Cache

2004-03-01 Thread Corin Moss
Title: JCS Based Cache Hi Guys, I've seen quite a lot of talk about replacing the default persistent store with something other than JISP. I think this is a sound idea - I'm coming up against the various bugs everyone knows about with Jisp 2.51, and I understand the issues related to the

Re: JCS Based Cache

2004-03-01 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Corin Moss dijo: Hi Guys, I've seen quite a lot of talk about replacing the default persistent store with something other than JISP. I think this is a sound idea - I'm coming up against the various bugs everyone knows about with Jisp 2.51, and I understand the issues related to the JISP

Re: JCS Based Cache

2004-03-01 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Corin, ...Someone mentioned JCS as a good solution - and it strikes me as being fairly simple to extend the JCS AbstractDiskCache (http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/jcs/xref/org/apache/jcs/auxiliary/ disk/AbstractDiskCache.html.)   I hope to start work on this in the short term - today or

RE: JCS Based Cache

2004-03-01 Thread Corin Moss
Hiya, Thanks for the feedback - I'll get to work on this now. I guess conceptually this really belongs within the Avalon-Excalibur-store framework, as it will sit along side AbstractJispFilesystemStore rather than on top of it. Do you agree, or do you feel that this should be implemented

RE: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/blocks/html/lib jtidy-04aug2000r7-dev.jar.license

2004-03-01 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
-Original Message- From: Antonio Gallardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 3:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/blocks/html/lib jtidy-04aug2000r7-dev.jar.license Can we use a more standard extension? ie: .txt:

Re: JCS Based Cache

2004-03-01 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mardi, 2 mars 2004, à 08:16 Europe/Zurich, Corin Moss a écrit : ... I guess conceptually this really belongs within the Avalon-Excalibur-store framework, as it will sit along side AbstractJispFilesystemStore rather than on top of it... Makes sense but I don't think it prevents you from

RE: JCS Based Cache

2004-03-01 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Corin Moss wrote: Hiya, Thanks for the feedback - I'll get to work on this now. Great! I guess conceptually this really belongs within the Avalon-Excalibur-store framework, as it will sit along side AbstractJispFilesystemStore rather than on top of it. Yes, conceptually it should

RE: workflow block commited

2004-03-01 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Gregor J. Rothfuss dijo: the lenya community has developed a lightweight workflow that we thought would make more sense as a cocoon block, especially given that other cms built on cocoon have shown interest in using it I see the following minimum todo list from the Cocoon POV: - Use the

RE: JCS Based Cache

2004-03-01 Thread Corin Moss
You have a good point there - I'm simply going to have to replace the DefaultPersistentStore at my end (for testing only of course ;) One thing that has occurred to me whilst hammering the JISP based store, and looking at the code in a bit more depth, is that all of the perceived problems come

[Avalon][PMC] Release!

2004-03-01 Thread Leo Sutic
The following Avalon packages have been released: avalon-fortress-container-1.1 avalon-fortress-tools-1.1 excalibur-component-1.2 excalibur-event-1.1 excalibur-logger-1.1 excalibur-sourceresolve-1.1 excalibur-store-1.0 excalibur-xmlutil-1.0 /LS

RE: [Avalon][PMC] Release!

2004-03-01 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Woohoo Thanks Leo for this great effort! Carsten -Original Message- From: Leo Sutic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 11:37 AM To: 'Avalon Developers List'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Avalon][PMC] Release! The following Avalon packages have been