Re: Release process WAS [VOTE] Release Apache Commons Codec 1.5-RC1

2011-03-31 Thread sebb
On 31 March 2011 04:00, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/30/11 6:57 PM, sebb wrote: On 31 March 2011 01:38, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/30/11 4:22 PM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote: I disagree

Re: Release process WAS [VOTE] Release Apache Commons Codec 1.5-RC1

2011-03-31 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 2:38 AM, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote: And then you need to check the hashes and sigs again since you are now working with downloaded copies of the files that we voted on. Seems much easier and more correct to me to just scp the files to p.a.o., let people

[GUMP@vmgump]: Project commons-scxml-test (in module apache-commons) failed

2011-03-31 Thread Gump
To whom it may engage... This is an automated request, but not an unsolicited one. For more information please visit http://gump.apache.org/nagged.html, and/or contact the folk at gene...@gump.apache.org. Project commons-scxml-test has an issue affecting its community integration. This

Re: svn commit: r1086810 - /commons/proper/pool/branches/POOL_1_X/pom.xml

2011-03-31 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 2:46 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 31 March 2011 02:00, Niall Pemberton niall.pember...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 6:30 AM, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/29/11 6:30 PM, sebb wrote: On 30 March 2011 01:13,  pste...@apache.org wrote:

[GUMP@vmgump]: Project commons-proxy-test (in module apache-commons) failed

2011-03-31 Thread Gump
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Re: svn commit: r1087178 - in /commons/proper/commons-skin/trunk: ./ .classpath

2011-03-31 Thread Gary Gregory
It's not a java project though. Gary On Mar 31, 2011, at 5:34, Mark Thomas ma...@apache.org wrote: On 31/03/2011 04:54, ggreg...@apache.org wrote: Author: ggregory Date: Thu Mar 31 03:54:51 2011 New Revision: 1087178 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1087178view=rev Log: Ignore

Re: svn commit: r1087178 - in /commons/proper/commons-skin/trunk: ./ .classpath

2011-03-31 Thread Gary Gregory
On Mar 31, 2011, at 6:36, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 31 March 2011 10:33, Mark Thomas ma...@apache.org wrote: On 31/03/2011 04:54, ggreg...@apache.org wrote: Author: ggregory Date: Thu Mar 31 03:54:51 2011 New Revision: 1087178 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1087178view=rev

Re: Release Commons Pool 1.5.6 based on RC2

2011-03-31 Thread Jim Jagielski
+1 (non-binding obviously): OS X, Fed14. On Mar 30, 2011, at 2:17 AM, Phil Steitz wrote: The tag is here: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/proper/pool/tags/POOL_1_5_6_RC2 The distribution zips/tars are here: http://people.apache.org/~psteitz/pool-1.5.6-rc2/ Maven artifacts are

[primitives] Criteria for initialCapacity

2011-03-31 Thread Mauricio Bonetti
Hi primitives team!! I would like to know why the initial capacity for ArrayList is set by default to 8. Is there any special reason for establishing this? Thanks!!! Regards, Mauricio!!

Re: [Math] What's the problem with interfaces?

2011-03-31 Thread Gilles Sadowski
Hi. No. There are always times, when too many stuff piled up that requires an API change. But then you may have more radical changes and combine it with e.g. new (incompatible) JDK features. New digester is a very good example of it. But you have to make very wise decisions about the new

Re: [Math] What's the problem with interfaces?

2011-03-31 Thread Gilles Sadowski
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:05:42AM -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: We are mixing two things in this thread - how much we care about backward compatibility and how and when to use interfaces. I think we need to settle both topics. I have stated my view, which is really just to standard Commons

Re: Release Commons Pool 1.5.6 based on RC2

2011-03-31 Thread Simone Tripodi
Mr President, IMHO you vote worths 1000 times more than my binding one, thanks for reviewing our work!!! Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://www.99soft.org/ On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: +1 (non-binding obviously): OS X, Fed14. On

Re: [Math] What's the problem with interfaces?

2011-03-31 Thread Jörg Schaible
Hi Gilles, Gilles Sadowski wrote: [snip] If I'm not mistaken, this is the answer to the business requirement. And it does not prevent us from evolving the code as often as necessary (math3, math4, ...). I think, this is the real point where we disagree. My interpretation of as often as

Re: svn commit: r1086810 - /commons/proper/pool/branches/POOL_1_X/pom.xml

2011-03-31 Thread sebb
On 31 March 2011 12:36, Niall Pemberton niall.pember...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 2:46 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 31 March 2011 02:00, Niall Pemberton niall.pember...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 6:30 AM, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/29/11

Re: Release process WAS [VOTE] Release Apache Commons Codec 1.5-RC1

2011-03-31 Thread sebb
On 31 March 2011 12:05, Jochen Wiedmann jochen.wiedm...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 1:36 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: AFAIK, wget alone won't do, as the files also have to be deleted. Why? There's no problem with leaving them where they are. If they are left in Nexus

Re: Release process WAS [VOTE] Release Apache Commons Codec 1.5-RC1

2011-03-31 Thread sebb
On 31 March 2011 12:08, Jochen Wiedmann jochen.wiedm...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 2:38 AM, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote: And then you need to check the hashes and sigs again since you are now working with downloaded copies of the files that we voted on. Seems much

Re: Release process WAS [VOTE] Release Apache Commons Codec 1.5-RC1

2011-03-31 Thread Ralph Goers
On Mar 31, 2011, at 8:49 AM, sebb wrote: On 31 March 2011 12:08, Jochen Wiedmann jochen.wiedm...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 2:38 AM, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote: And then you need to check the hashes and sigs again since you are now working with downloaded copies

Re: Release Commons Pool 1.5.6 based on RC2

2011-03-31 Thread Luc Maisonobe
Le 31/03/2011 06:25, Phil Steitz a écrit : On 3/29/11 11:17 PM, Phil Steitz wrote: The tag is here: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/proper/pool/tags/POOL_1_5_6_RC2 The distribution zips/tars are here: http://people.apache.org/~psteitz/pool-1.5.6-rc2/ Maven artifacts are here:

Re: [Nexus] Commons-codec release not showing up in Maven Central after 24 hours

2011-03-31 Thread Jörg Schaible
Hi Julius, Julius Davies wrote: Somewhat off topic question: Why do some commons artifacts go here? http://repo2.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/commons/ New ones and the ones with major API changes And others go to the root (look for commons-*)? http://repo2.maven.org/maven2/ The

Re: Release process WAS [VOTE] Release Apache Commons Codec 1.5-RC1

2011-03-31 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 5:46 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: If they are left in Nexus staging, AFAIK they end up in Maven Central when promoted. And your point is? -- I Am What I Am And That's All What I Yam (Popeye) -

Re: [codec] Moving on to codec 2.0

2011-03-31 Thread Gary Gregory
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Julius Davies juliusdav...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 4:28 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 31 March 2011 00:17, Jochen Wiedmann jochen.wiedm...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:04 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: But does the

Re: [Nexus] Commons-codec release not showing up in Maven Central after 24 hours

2011-03-31 Thread Gary Gregory
Because the Maven groupId in the POM. They dictate where files go. Changing an ID is a big deal. Gary On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Julius Davies juliusdav...@gmail.comwrote: Somewhat off topic question: Why do some commons artifacts go here?

Re: [codec] Moving on to codec 2.0

2011-03-31 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Julius Davies juliusdav...@gmail.com wrote: I'm confused.  We support streaming for Base64 since codec-1.4 (and now Base32 since codec-1.5).  You committed the Base64InputStream patch, Jochen! https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CODEC-69 Is there other

Re: [codec] Moving on to codec 2.0

2011-03-31 Thread Jörg Schaible
Hi Jochen, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Julius Davies juliusdav...@gmail.com wrote: I'm confused. We support streaming for Base64 since codec-1.4 (and now Base32 since codec-1.5). You committed the Base64InputStream patch, Jochen!

Re: [VOTE] Release Commons Pool 1.5.6 based on RC2

2011-03-31 Thread Jörg Schaible
Phil Steitz wrote: The tag is here: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/proper/pool/tags/POOL_1_5_6_RC2 The distribution zips/tars are here: http://people.apache.org/~psteitz/pool-1.5.6-rc2/ Maven artifacts are here: http://people.apache.org/~psteitz/pool-1.5.6-rc2/maven/ Site:

[GUMP@vmgump]: Project commons-proxy-test (in module apache-commons) failed

2011-03-31 Thread Gump
To whom it may engage... This is an automated request, but not an unsolicited one. For more information please visit http://gump.apache.org/nagged.html, and/or contact the folk at gene...@gump.apache.org. Project commons-proxy-test has an issue affecting its community integration. This

Re: FastMathTestPerformance results misleading

2011-03-31 Thread sebb
On 1 April 2011 01:23, Bill Rossi b...@rossi.com wrote: This test shows that Math.sin() is faster than FastMath.sin(), but this is misleading because the test operates over the domain 0 x 1, whereas legal arguments to sin() are all finite numbers.   In particular, its when |x| is large that

Re: [codec] Moving on to codec 2.0

2011-03-31 Thread Gary Gregory
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Jörg Schaible joerg.schai...@gmx.dewrote: Hi Jochen, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Julius Davies juliusdav...@gmail.com wrote: I'm confused. We support streaming for Base64 since codec-1.4 (and now Base32 since codec-1.5).

Re: [Nexus] Commons-codec release not showing up in Maven Central after 24 hours

2011-03-31 Thread Gary Gregory
And... still nothing on Maven Central :( What IS (not) going on? Did I miss a step? Forget to bark at the moon? Gary On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.comwrote: Because the Maven groupId in the POM. They dictate where files go. Changing an ID is a big deal.

[ALL] source compatibility - changes to throws clauses

2011-03-31 Thread sebb
Just discovered that Clirr does not complain if the throws clause of a method or constructor is changed to add a new Exception. Seemed like a bug at first, but it's not, because throws clauses are only checked at compile-time. So e.g. adding throws IOException to a method will not break binary

Re: [codec] Moving on to codec 2.0

2011-03-31 Thread sebb
On 1 April 2011 01:40, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Jörg Schaible joerg.schai...@gmx.dewrote: Hi Jochen, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Julius Davies juliusdav...@gmail.com wrote: I'm confused.  We support

Re: [Nexus] Commons-codec release not showing up in Maven Central after 24 hours

2011-03-31 Thread sebb
Normally the RAO list is very responsive; I'll raise a JIRA. On 1 April 2011 02:01, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: And... still nothing on Maven Central :( What IS (not) going on? Did I miss a step? Forget to bark at the moon? Gary On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Gary Gregory

Re: [Nexus] Commons-codec release not showing up in Maven Central after 24 hours

2011-03-31 Thread sebb
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3556 On 1 April 2011 02:38, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: Normally the RAO list is very responsive; I'll raise a JIRA. On 1 April 2011 02:01, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: And... still nothing on Maven Central :( What IS (not) going on?

Re: [Nexus] Commons-codec release not showing up in Maven Central after 24 hours

2011-03-31 Thread Phil Steitz
On 3/31/11 1:58 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: Because the Maven groupId in the POM. They dictate where files go. Changing an ID is a big deal. To provide a little more context, Commons began drinking the maven cool-aid very early, back in the pre-release maven 1 days. At that time, artifact naming

Re: [ALL] source compatibility - changes to throws clauses

2011-03-31 Thread Phil Steitz
On 3/31/11 6:30 PM, sebb wrote: Just discovered that Clirr does not complain if the throws clause of a method or constructor is changed to add a new Exception. Seemed like a bug at first, but it's not, because throws clauses are only checked at compile-time. So e.g. adding throws IOException

Re: [codec] Moving on to codec 2.0

2011-03-31 Thread Gary Gregory
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 9:36 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 1 April 2011 01:40, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Jörg Schaible joerg.schai...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Jochen, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Julius

Re: [Nexus] Commons-codec release not showing up in Maven Central after 24 hours

2011-03-31 Thread sebb
On 1 April 2011 02:49, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/31/11 1:58 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: Because the Maven groupId in the POM. They dictate where files go. Changing an ID is a big deal. To provide a little more context, Commons began drinking the maven cool-aid very early,

Re: [Nexus] Commons-codec release not showing up in Maven Central after 24 hours

2011-03-31 Thread Julius Davies
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 7:15 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 1 April 2011 02:49, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/31/11 1:58 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: Because the Maven groupId in the POM. They dictate where files go. Changing an ID is a big deal. To provide a little more

[continuum] BUILD FAILURE: Apache Commons - Commons Net - Default Maven 2 Build Definition (Java 1.5)

2011-03-31 Thread Continuum@vmbuild
Online report : http://vmbuild.apache.org/continuum/buildResult.action?buildId=6322projectId=107 Build statistics: State: Failed Previous State: Ok Started at: Fri 1 Apr 2011 02:20:58 + Finished at: Fri 1 Apr 2011 02:21:25 + Total time: 27s Build Trigger: Schedule Build

Re: [codec] Moving on to codec 2.0

2011-03-31 Thread Julius Davies
Nothing of this (including minimum requirement of Java 5) requires automatically 2.x. As long as the API is *upward* binary compatible, you can improve the implementation using this features, adding new methods or new classes. Even generics can be added to some extend in a binary